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League of Legends |OT8| Goodbye, Promos.
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Carica Papaya
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So my 9 game win streak was broken by a tf that afked when I took the first blue...
He didn't really afk either. He stood in base and kept spamming spells for the next 13 minutes..
He didn't really afk either. He stood in base and kept spamming spells for the next 13 minutes..
Mister Negative
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I feel like if you turn on scarra's stream and he's not feeding, something is horribly wrong
Orochinagis
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I am pretty bad at mid and of course I have to take that line in ranked despite I said I am bad at mid.
FUCK. Most aggravating game of my life. Had a Brand who was a "diamond smurf" (he made sure we all knew) who racked up like 10 kills in lane and then lucian "stole a kill from him" so he went around farming jungle the rest of the game. We somehow got an ace 50 minutes in and won but seriously fuck that guy. I'm in my promos too, what an ass.
Stone Ocean
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I always assume that if scarra's thumbnail on Twitch isn't black and white he's playing Hearthstone or some shit
That game was brutal to watch. Looked like they were going to win with the jinx pick at the enemy inhib then gnar just tower dived and died for no reason.
If thats ranked doesn't sound like silver, because morg and trist are banned 90% of the time.
Malphite would have saved you.
That's how I would expect that lane to go.
Early? Like within the first 5 minutes?
If the Ryze knows what they are doing, yes.
Stone Ocean
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It's Ryze against a melee champion with zero gap closers and no ranged spells. Ryze can start Rune Prison and Darius can't do shit about it, all of Ryze's skills outrange Darius' pull.
Ryze isn't weak early. He's vulnerable early. Big difference.
yeah, even if the range advantage ryze has over darius pull is small, if the ryze manages it well there's nothing darius can do about it short of a flash and even then it's just a trade
it's even worse cos ryze doesn't need to do anything in that lane to win, just chill farming from range and outscale while darius keeps becoming more and more irrelevant :/
but considering it's players like you and me it could've gone either way
it's even worse cos ryze doesn't need to do anything in that lane to win, just chill farming from range and outscale while darius keeps becoming more and more irrelevant :/
but considering it's players like you and me it could've gone either way
Dreams-Visions
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I hate Ryze players. I don't even know why. Maybe it's the complete lack of any sort of skill shot in a game designed around skill shots (or skill abilities).
Stone Ocean
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To your defense, picking Darius into Ryze/Rammus/Trist was a moronic thing to do in the first place.
Gotta put that dunkmaster skin to use or it will get stale and moldy.
The infinite scaling on a tank/damage dealer who has good single target and AOE damage is what does it for me.
Schmattakopf is still okay though.
Stone Ocean
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I really hope Riot goes through with removing his mana gimmick
well i don't hate ryze players but i don't like the champion lol
i actually think the no skillshots thing is the one cool thing that makes ryze a unique mage and even difficulty isn't really a matter, many other champions are easy to play (annie) and i find to be really fun
i think what does it for me is the mana scaling thing. being a tank and a hypercarry at the same time just doesn't mesh well for me, i get it that he needs tankiness since his range is so low but at the same time like caitlyn has like only 50 more range than him and builds squishy as fuck so what gives
he's also way too safe in lane since he has super reliable cc and range and pretty fat ms for a mage
so yeah:
330 ms
lower mana scaling, higher ap scaling
there could be all other changes that make him have a bit more decisionmaking but i think i'd be cool with those two things
How is Ryze's scaling infinite? I must be missing something obvious.
i'm exaggerating. or lying, you decide. it's not real infinite but it might as well be.
I wasn't sure if you were mistaken or if I was just overlooking something.
To clarify for anyone who doesn't know, Ryze scales with mana, and he can get a lot of mana through items like Tear of the Goddess -> Archangel's -> Seraph's. But, as far as I know, all mana item max out at a certain point.
This is in comparison to champions with true infinite scaling, like Nasus farming Q, or Veigar farming Q.
Stone Ocean
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It "high enough". If he can blow up squishies in one of two rotations while being almost impossible to kill, that's as infinite as this game goes.
A farmed 6 item Nasus will explode you with 500 or 5000 stacks, the infinite scaling only really matters to a point.
You've made the best choice. There are solo laners you can play that feel like playing a support though. You know, for when other support mains show up who seem lost in solo lanes.
Orochinagis
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Welcome to the club, but you need to do the win streak in ranked only?
Did dimb mean the passive though? I thought he was talking about the mana scaling.
I only see one primary passive for Ryze ("When Ryze uses an ability, all of his other abilities have their cooldown reduced by 1 second.") and one other passive (Passive: Ryze gains cooldown reduction.). Spamming != scaling unless I am totally misunderstanding the terms. Yes though, if my math is right Ryze can use Q 1.1 seconds apart with 40% CDR.
Yea, ratings in ranked, normal, and team builder are separate.
Orochinagis
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I never ever did a winstreak in ranked.
don't read too much into the infinite part
he's got super high scaling
that's the point
You'll get one soon enough. I believe in you.
NCR Redslayer
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For some reason, I bought Galactic Renekton. I didn't even knew I had him and I apparently bought the skin 2 months ago.
Yeah I figured that out now.
I was just confused seeing that mention followed by the spell spamming mention. Both Ryze's high scaling and Ryze's spell spamming are understandable causes for annoyance.Dreams-Visions
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you'd like to think a jungler would keep an eye on an over-extended solo laner with no escape mechanism and punish him repeatedly.
You got the worst Renekton skin. I'm sorry.
Wolf Akela
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They just need to hit Ryze' early game. He hurts so damn much early on. His mid-game ranges from OK to powerful depending on how well he did during laning. Late game is no question. Higher early mana costs, lower early base damages, lower early MR shred, anything.
Actually maybe removing the shred from E would be a very significant way to nerf him. It would prevent him from getting a big early-mid damage spike. It will force him to try considering Void Staff earlier so he can output more damage but be more squishy.
Actually maybe removing the shred from E would be a very significant way to nerf him. It would prevent him from getting a big early-mid damage spike. It will force him to try considering Void Staff earlier so he can output more damage but be more squishy.
Demoted to silver II.
Well, there is officially the end of my ranked career.
All hail the fed vlad and the heimer who rushed armguard against him.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1593807330/38876759
Well, there is officially the end of my ranked career.
All hail the fed vlad and the heimer who rushed armguard against him.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1593807330/38876759
Ryze already has a pretty weak early game. I Imagine why he is hurting you so much during the early game is he is running mana glyphs.
The best way to destroy a ryze is to have your jungler gank him at least once in the early game, allowing you to snowball the lane and prevent him from ever getting too big to handle around the mid game. champions like Rumble and Akali destroy ryze, if he is ganked even once.
Higher early mana costs won't do anything as you are already building a tear+RoA. Riot is most likely just going to remove his mana scaling and make him a regular AP mage at this rate.
A few PBE patches ago they removed his mana scaling, but that was quickly changed back, so it seems like that is the path they are currently pursuing.
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