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Maybe it's just me, but I think my main problem with Korra is how disjointed everything feels. I like how TLA hit the ground running every season, not skipping a beat from where they left off last season.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I think my main problem with Korra is how disjointed everything feels. I like how TLA hit the ground running every season, not skipping a beat from where they left off last season.

Yeah I mean plot/character stuff aside, Book 2 was a mess from a technical writing perspective. Like the actual episodes were literally struggling to come together (in terms of structure/pacing). I think that's what I found so frustrating about Book 2. Like, I can accept a plot that I don't like. I can even put up with character progression (or lack of) that I don't agree with. But at the very least, I want to be able to watch episodes that are coherent. I just didn't find the first half of Book 2 even enjoyable on a basic level.

But I've seen the leaked episodes of Book 3, and IMO it fixed most those issues. Granted, I watched them out of order (and in a different language). So the real test will come tomorrow when we see 1-3 in order. Should give us a better indicator how the episodes flow (on a structure level).
 
MOMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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FIRST THINGS FIRST: IM THE REALEST
DROP THIS AND LET THE WHOLE WORLD FEEL IT
AND IM STILL IN THE MURDER BIZNESS
I COULD HOLD YOU DOWN LIKE IM GIVIN LESSONS IN PHYSICS BABY
YOU SHOULD WANT A BAD BITCH LIKE THIS
DROP IT LOW AND PICK IT UP JUST LIKE THIS


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ALL OF THE BONES IN YOUR BODY
ARE IN WAY TOO FEW PIECES FOR ME
TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

So to cope with tragedy, you randomly listen to music and type out the lyrics in all caps. You are more crazier than Azula. :o

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The coolest thing Asami has done in the whole show is in one of the leaked episodes she (kinda spoilers)
does a somersault and then touches a dude's shoulder to paralyze him
lmao
 
I didn't see the final episode. How much worse could the fight have gotten?

It looked a bit cool admittedly, but made no fucking sense.

Jinora's whole subplot coming out of nowhere still has me shaking my head considering her character last season. Everything was so weird.
 
I didn't see the final episode. How much worse could the fight have gotten?

Unalaq and the evil kite jointed so they became a giant evil titan and so Korra went into that one tree where she connected to...uh, the planets spirit? Is that still relevent? Since the avatar is now powered by the good kite, not the planet, so....you know what, whatever.

Anyway, Korra went into the giant tree where she connected to giant her, so her spirit left her body as a giant blue titan to fight the evil unalaq titan. They fire laser beams from their chests at each other for a while, before Kaiju Korra started losing, at which point Jinora came down and did.....something, which revived the good kite spirit, which makes the evil kite lose for some reason.

The end.
 
Unalaq and the evil kite jointed so they became a giant evil titan and so Korra went into that one tree where she connected to...uh, the planets spirit? Is that still relevent? Since the avatar is now powered by the good kite, not the planet, so....you know what, whatever.

Anyway, Korra went into the giant tree where she connected to giant her, so her spirit left her body as a giant blue titan to fight the evil unalaq titan. They fire laser beams from their chests at each other for a while, before Kaiju Korra started losing, at which point Jinora came down and did.....something, which revived the good kite spirit, which makes the evil kite lose for some reason.

The end.
hmm
 
I hated what they did to her actually. She was starting to get kinda sympathetic by the 3rd season, then they turn her into some psycho out of nowhere.

Well that's kind of who she is. She's always been a sociopath, but her father really encouraged it.

I think she always really was a sociopath though, the beach notwithstanding
 
Well that's kind of who she is. She's always been a sociopath, but her father really encouraged it.

I think she always really was a sociopath though, the beach notwithstanding

She obviously had some of that in her, but towards the end it felt like that aspect was turned up to ridiculous degrees. Especially right after I felt like she was getting some character development.
 
really hope they redeem Korra this season, if they are struggling with making a good female leads they should go watch Claymore

in addition didn't they completely wreck the re-incarnation cycle?
 
in addition didn't they completely wreck the re-incarnation cycle?

Nah. The connection to the past avatars has been lost - and with it must go the Avatar State I would think - but Raava is still kicking (and probably gets a power boost with Vaatu's defeat) so the cycle continues on.
 
Minor speculation based on sneak peeks:

Korra and Asami seem to be quite close now. I guess they bonded since they were both victims of Mako's bull****.
 
I hope they don't focus too much on Romance stuff this season. Would totally be ok with some bonding between Korra and Asami though.
 
She obviously had some of that in her, but towards the end it felt like that aspect was turned up to ridiculous degrees. Especially right after I felt like she was getting some character development.

Nah... I feel like the way they built Azula, there was only really one way for her to react to her mental breakdown
 
Azula's arc was one of the beautiful in animation history. She was introduced as this awesome, unstoppable, amazing threat that drove the frikken avatar up against the wall for all of season 2 and most of season 3, but she was ultimately felled by her own ruthlessness. And I wish people would stop calling her a sociopath. She wasn't. Ozai was a sociopath. Azula was what happens when a normal person (if somewhat dark) person tries to be a sociopath. Ozai honestly couldn't care less about anyone around him, seeing them as tools at best, while Azula actually craved love and affection, but tried to convince herself she didn't. Her breakdown, given her psyche, was one of the best portrayals of how love affects us all. To write her off as a 'psycho' is to undersell what her significantly.
 
I'm not talking about what your talking about.

What I'm talking about is Azula's suggestion of how they seemingly want to start with a clean slate each season. The effects of last season, by and large, have no after effects. So Amon and the equalist? We basically never hear from them or their affect on Rep City.

I don't know where you got that I meant that converging plots don't exist. Of course they do. TLA did tons of them.

Well I think that's also just an effect of the fact that they got picked up for season 2 during season 1. They could've done that better, but Season 3 seems to be all about the effects of Harmonic Convergence and what happns when the worlds are connected now.

So they're not afraid to do it, I just honestly believe the inequality thing isn't an interesting story any more, it doesn't seem interesting to us to watch someone deal with what is now essentially a bunch of protesters.

How could any one in that organization be as threatening as Amon was? There's no suspense or story there anymore.
 
Azula's arc was one of the beautiful in animation history. She was introduced as this awesome, unstoppable, amazing threat that drove the frikken avatar up against the wall for all of season 2 and most of season 3, but she was ultimately felled by her own ruthlessness. And I wish people would stop calling her a sociopath. She wasn't. Ozai was a sociopath. Azula was what happens when a normal person (if somewhat dark) person tries to be a sociopath. Ozai honestly couldn't care less about anyone around him, seeing them as tools at best, while Azula actually craved love and affection, but tried to convince herself she didn't. Her breakdown, given her psyche, was one of the best portrayals of how love affects us all. To write her off as a 'psycho' is to undersell what her significantly.

That's called being a psychopath.
 
Azula went out like a chump, but we'll always have "don't flatter yourself, you were never a player."

In a state of complete mental derangement and her weakest point, she still managed to beat Zuko, whose firebending prowess was escalating since the series began. Furthermore, despite her mental instability, she still managed to use lightning! Remember, this was back when bending still meant more than mere superpowers. At the brink of her defeat and frustration, she still has the discipline to calm her mind to unleash the most difficult technique to pull off in firebending at the time.

She could not beat the power of love, but lets not try to pretend she didn't go down without a fight. And at her weakest point in the series, no less.

Azula was awesome. Haters gonna hate.

Well I think that's also just an effect of the fact that they got picked up for season 2 during season 1. They could've done that better, but Season 3 seems to be all about the effects of Harmonic Convergence and what happns when the worlds are connected now.

So they're not afraid to do it, I just honestly believe the inequality thing isn't an interesting story any more, it doesn't seem interesting to us to watch someone deal with what is now essentially a bunch of protesters.

How could any one in that organization be as threatening as Amon was? There's no suspense or story there anymore.

It's not about threat. This is largely the problem that Korra sets, that whatever she can't punch away is not her job. The job of the avatar is to settle disputes, basically. Several of Aang's tasks at being the avatar was going to a random village, finding someone who had some issue, and helping them solve that issue. It didn't need to be some epic villain. One episode just had him helping a random farmer herd his sheep. They don't need to be Amon to be part of the equalist plotline. Something like a nonbender that is upset because he is being treated as lesser in his bending neighborhood is sufficient for an introspective episode.
 
Minor speculation based on sneak peeks:

Korra and Asami seem to be quite close now. I guess they bonded since they were both victims of Mako's bull****.

Would love to see Bolin being the new heartthrob with the non-team avatar ladies this season and give occasional love advice to Mako.
 
That's called being a psychopath.

Only by people who have no idea what antisocial personality disorder is. The traits of a psychopath/sociopath is largely due to an inability to feel empathy. They rarely experience emotions as a result. A true psychopath wouldn't break down the way she did. She wouldn't like it, but she wouldn't care. A mental break down can result from just about anything, from a significant trauma to various mental diseases like schizophrenia or dementia. Anyone could experience such a breakdown.

Azula has shown moments of empathy and even compassion. She's shown remorse and doesn't seem particularly impulsive. She's decietful, manipulative and doesn't conform to most social norms....but even that's arguable, because she does conform to the social norm of a warrior princess, if not a human being. Not to mention her manipulation is limited only to battlefield tactics. In social situations, she's quite clueless. Whatever else you think of her, calling her a psychopath is just factually incorrect as defined in DSM-V. She doesn't display the sufficient amount of traits for that.
 
It's not about threat. This is largely the problem that Korra sets, that whatever she can't punch away is not her job. The job of the avatar is to settle disputes, basically. Several of Aang's tasks at being the avatar was going to a random village, finding someone who had some issue, and helping them solve that issue. They don't need to be Amon to be part of the equalist plotline. Something like a nonbender that is upset because he is being treated as lesser in his bending neighborhood is sufficient for an introspective episode.

Didn't they cover that when they went down to hobo-town and there was no disparity between the benders and non-benders there, showing that it wasn't a big deal without Amon stirring the shit?

It seems like there's more evidence that it wasn't a big deal, and that the whole point of it in season 1 was to show that there isn't a disparity at all, just Noatok trying to get revenge for his father because reasons.

Even in AtLA there was plenty of times to address it, but Mai and Ty lee took care of benders all the time.

I don't know, it seems like you really want that to be a storyline when it would just contradict a bunch of stuff in the show and the point of Amon being a fraud in the first place.

They were wrong to just shrug off any suggestion about it being a problem afterwards, but that's only because you have to really reach to find that they made the whole dispute nonsense anyway.
 
She could not beat the power of love, but lets not try to pretend she didn't go down without a fight.

I'm not. Still went out like a chump though. Her fall into madness was so tragic (and a little heavy handed, but it worked decent enough) because she was so on point. Prime Azula is so much more interesting and fun to watch, so to see her go out in the state she did was distasteful to me. And it gets worse in the comics.
 
No, it's not. The traits of a psychopath/sociopath is largely due to an inability to feel empathy. They rarely experience emotions as a result. A mental break down can result from just about anything, from a significant trauma to various mental diseases like schizophrenia or dementia. Anyone could experience such a breakdown.

Azula has shown moments of empathy and even compassion. She's shown remorse and doesn't seem particularly impulsive. Whatever else you think of her, calling her that is just factually incorrect as defined in DSM-V.

She clearly has a form of ASPD. There is definitely an element of reduced empathy in the diagnosis of sociopathy or psychopathy but that doesn't mean the non-existence of it altogether. She is no way mentally normal.

She didn't just have a mental break at the very end of the series but other than that she was fine. She had a whole host of mental issues already.

http://www.psi.uba.ar/academica/carrerasdegrado/psicologia/sitios_catedras/practicas_profesionales/820_clinica_tr_personalidad_psicosis/material/dsm.pdf said:
DSM-IV criteria
1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful
behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that
are grounds for arrest.

2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases,
or conning others for personal profit or pleasure.

3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead.

4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated
physical fights or assaults.

5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others.

6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure
to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial
obligations.

7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or
rationalizing.
DSM-5 Criteria - Revised April 2012


The essential features of a personality disorder are impairments in
personality (self and interpersonal) functioning and the presence of
pathological personality traits. To diagnose antisocial personality
disorder, the following criteria must be met:

A. Significant impairments in personality functioning manifest by:

1. Impairments in self functioning (a or b):

a. Identity: Ego-centrism; self-esteem derived from
personal gain, power, or pleasure.

b. Self-direction: Goal-setting based on personal
gratification; absence of prosocial internal
standards associated with failure to conform to
lawful or culturally normative ethical behavior.

AND

2. Impairments in interpersonal functioning (a or b):

a. Empathy: Lack of concern for feelings, needs, or
suffering of others; lack of remorse after hurting or
mistreating another.

b. Intimacy: Incapacity for mutually intimate
relationships, as exploitation is a primary means of
relating to others, including by deceit and coercion;
use of dominance or intimidation to control others.

She fits that really really well.
 
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