It would also strengthen half of the group in one swoop. Team Avatar seriously needs more bonding and growth. It's been non existent! Bolin and Asami just make sense. Or at least they did.
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It would also strengthen half of the group in one swoop. Team Avatar seriously needs more bonding and growth. It's been non existent! Bolin and Asami just make sense. Or at least they did.
Mashin Haters
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lolwut....
i dont think Korra is black, i thought the water tribe were made up of people of indian descent or native american.
Water Tribers have always seemed pretty black, with a heavy mix of eskimo tones.
Shouta
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I'm excited to see what they can do again but expectations are dialed down.
My biggest gripe with Korra S1/S2, despite generally enjoying them, is that they don't carve niches for each character out within the group dynamic. It's a pretty standard trope but it's one of the few that is absolutely necessary for handling as many characters and things as they have going on in the series. This is the biggest element that is lacking between Korra and TLA. They don't have this framework to base the stories on and to define what's happening so it becomes a big hodgepodge of stuff.
Tenzin and his siblings end up being the most enjoyable characters because of their role in the story and the relationship that they share with each other. The same can't really be said about Mako, Bolin and Korra. Asami gets a bit of a pass because she had some story originally and has a niche within the team structure but she still gets dragged down by the others.
My biggest gripe with Korra S1/S2, despite generally enjoying them, is that they don't carve niches for each character out within the group dynamic. It's a pretty standard trope but it's one of the few that is absolutely necessary for handling as many characters and things as they have going on in the series. This is the biggest element that is lacking between Korra and TLA. They don't have this framework to base the stories on and to define what's happening so it becomes a big hodgepodge of stuff.
Tenzin and his siblings end up being the most enjoyable characters because of their role in the story and the relationship that they share with each other. The same can't really be said about Mako, Bolin and Korra. Asami gets a bit of a pass because she had some story originally and has a niche within the team structure but she still gets dragged down by the others.
Loved the world-building and mystery of Season 1, despite the weak characters, I was completely engaged.
Season 2... I honestly can't even remember most of it... it left me cold. I think because it tried to advance the world-building of the inherently irrational world of the spirits, meaning nothing put forth had any ultimate meaning since magic is free to be inconsistent with itself (and basically was). I came away feeling like I learned nothing and we just had to go through the motions, despite the apocalyptic stakes.
That said, I'm sad we're already halfway through all we're going to get (any chance of a Third Avatar series after Korra's 4 Books? I'm worried we're beyond the era of serial animated storytelling of even Korra's caliber and this is a simply an artful throwback that we have should have no entitlement to expect... especially when Nick can churn out five Flash-animated TV shows for one Avatar) and excited to see what's next!
Season 2... I honestly can't even remember most of it... it left me cold. I think because it tried to advance the world-building of the inherently irrational world of the spirits, meaning nothing put forth had any ultimate meaning since magic is free to be inconsistent with itself (and basically was). I came away feeling like I learned nothing and we just had to go through the motions, despite the apocalyptic stakes.
That said, I'm sad we're already halfway through all we're going to get (any chance of a Third Avatar series after Korra's 4 Books? I'm worried we're beyond the era of serial animated storytelling of even Korra's caliber and this is a simply an artful throwback that we have should have no entitlement to expect... especially when Nick can churn out five Flash-animated TV shows for one Avatar) and excited to see what's next!
Mr. Bamboo
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I always thought Piandao was more 'black' than asian.
C'mon, man.
Dark-skinned Asian people exist too.
Mr. Bamboo
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XD Yes, I am aware of this. But I always got more black vibes.... black vibes? Fuck, I need to jump out before it gets messy
. Anyway, very excited for the new season. Also, technically, this will be the longest Korra book, considering book 2 had two episodes dedicated to Wan.
Professor Beef
Banned
I purposely skipped Book 2 because of how Book 1 ended, but I read some cliffnotes and summaries. It seemed so...aimless.
But...*sigh*...count me in for Book 3.
But...*sigh*...count me in for Book 3.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
It wasn't groundbreaking television, but I enjoyed most of Book 1 and 2. Most of what I didn't like was the way Mako and Asami were handled. The actual overreaching plot I enjoyed.
Ogodei from the rough Rhinos? I dunno. I can't really recall ATLA or Korra having any main characters being black. *shrugs* I just assumed the region (and the era it took place in) excluded various ethnicity's.
Well, we all know A:TLA/LoK borrows heavily from cultures across the Asian continent (the main exception being the Southern/Northern Water Tribe which draws from Native American peoples of the Arctic region).
It's animation so there is some ambiguity but it's pretty clear based on cultural context as to what race(s) each character is most likely to be.
In Korra's era, there are many people of mixed heritage such as Aang's kids, plus Bolin and Mako.
XD Yes, I am aware of this. But I always got more black vibes.... black vibes? Fuck, I need to jump out before it gets messy
Anyway, very excited for the new season. Also, technically, this will be the longest Korra book, considering book 2 had two episodes dedicated to Wan.
lol Black vibes.
Perspicacity
Banned
New love interest; kill him off midway through.
Put her company in further financial ruin.
Give everyone in the world bending but her.
Outlaw airplanes.
I always assumed that all of ATLA was heavily influenced by the asian culture but for its races across the world took more liberties such as the water tribe, earth kingdom and many of the different neutral villages we see across the series.
Basically asian+whatever fits.
I don't think Korras era is more mixed but more that Republic City is NY and while most of the world is still recognizable by ethnicity RC/NYC is just a mixed bag of all the different cultures. So everyone in that city is very mixed but the rest of the world is still pretty exclusive in their heritage/culture.
Well at least thats how its supposed to be. Other than the fact that there are a bunch of benders and the bending tournaments you never really see the diversity in Republic City despite the entire first season taking place there.
Or maybe my memory is hazy on S1. I haven't seen it since it aired.
EDIT: As for black vibes, you know its a point based system right? Korra is +3 black but +5 asian. Rounding out to a +3.2 Blasian.
Aang is +6 asian and Katara is +4 Inuit and +2 asian which means Tenzin is +4 asian and +3.2 Inuit.
Come on son use the point systems when defining ethnicity!
Basically asian+whatever fits.
I don't think Korras era is more mixed but more that Republic City is NY and while most of the world is still recognizable by ethnicity RC/NYC is just a mixed bag of all the different cultures. So everyone in that city is very mixed but the rest of the world is still pretty exclusive in their heritage/culture.
Well at least thats how its supposed to be. Other than the fact that there are a bunch of benders and the bending tournaments you never really see the diversity in Republic City despite the entire first season taking place there.
Or maybe my memory is hazy on S1. I haven't seen it since it aired.
EDIT: As for black vibes, you know its a point based system right? Korra is +3 black but +5 asian. Rounding out to a +3.2 Blasian.
Aang is +6 asian and Katara is +4 Inuit and +2 asian which means Tenzin is +4 asian and +3.2 Inuit.
Come on son use the point systems when defining ethnicity!
yes I'm being facetious
Unspeakable Evil
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Put her and Mako back together.
Professor Beef
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Have her company building explode, burning most of her hair off.
Professor Beef
Banned
I think we do need more tall fire benders, though.
This show is coming back? Three episodes airing back-to-back? Woah, I may need to set some time aside for it this weekend. I just hope that there's an improvement this season, the finale left a really bad taste in my mouth and I need something sweet to remove it.
Also, no more romance please.
Also, no more romance please.
"Asian culture" is kind of a disingenuous and imprecise term because Asia is the largest continent on this planet and consists of a huge variety of peoples which are vastly different from one another.
The Earth Kingdom was always mainly inspired by China. (Which makes sense, China is a huge country with various ethnicities and so is the Earth Kingdom.) Notable exceptions were the sand benders (North African Sahara) and the swamp benders (Indonesia).
Air Nomads = Tibet, Nepal, India (Guru Pathik)
Fire Nation = Japan, Mesoamerica (Sun Warriors), Burma/Thailand (Bhanti Tribe featured in "Beginnings")
Water Tribe = Arctic (Inupiat, Yupik, etc.)
The creators did a fantastic job on making each of the Four Nations distinct and though they can't write a romance worth a crap they do deserve credit for the amount of research they put into the series.
I'm pretty ignorant about Asian culture in general so this post has been very insightful
I do remember seeing a documentary of the fighting of ATLA and all the styles but I can't seem to find it. I think it also had where they drew upon the 4 nations.
I'm pretty ignorant about Asian culture in general so this post has been very insightful
I do remember seeing a documentary of the fighting of ATLA and all the styles but I can't seem to find it. I think it also had where they drew upon the 4 nations.
Why thank you.
And I'm pretty sure the video you're talking about is floating around somewhere on youtube.
But here they are from the avatarspirit fansite:
Firebending - Northern Shaolin
Waterbending - Tai Chi
Earthbending - Hung gar (However, Toph uses Southern Praying Mantis Style)
Airbending - Ba Gua Zhang
It's the details like these that really bring the Avatar world to life and why I fell in love with the series.
Here you guys go:
Avatar: The Last Airbender Documentary (Full) 720p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFtfhBs8pc
But I would recommend watching the entire thing. It's a great documentary. But I linked to the part that talks about the various martial arts that the fighting style is based on. BTW I really loved your post breaking down the four nations. I really appreciate you making that post. It's definitely one of the reasons I loved ATLA.
I didn't know a Documentary of The Last Airbender existed. Thanks
edit: 360p? pfffft This isn't 2007 anymore >:l
foxuzamaki
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I need to make sure I still have korra on my mom's DVR since I will be at work when it comes on, literally the worse time too, 30 mins before my shit ends!
So safe to say there will be some fights in Book 4
Wonder how long they have left to go with production for Book 4 now as they already started working on the final episodes a couple weeks ago
"Recording some Korra fight scenes for Book 4 with Janet Varney today. This is our friendly reminder that Book 3 premieres this Friday the 27th @ 7PM on Nick!"
Recording some Korra fight scenes for Book 4
Wonder how long they have left to go with production for Book 4 now as they already started working on the final episodes a couple weeks ago
"Recording some Korra fight scenes for Book 4 with Janet Varney today. This is our friendly reminder that Book 3 premieres this Friday the 27th @ 7PM on Nick!"
Recording some Korra fight scenes for Book 4
foxuzamaki
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Can anyone tell me the ratings for book 2? I heard it progressively got worse as the season went on, but that was basically a rumor since I saw no sources.
……forgetit
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Actually he's the only confirmed Moroccan guy in avatar, here's a picture of the guy he was designed after.
So technically black.
Yeah the ratings weren't the best got quite dire a few times without the Spongbob lead in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Legend_of_Korra_episodes#Book_Two:_Spirits_.282013.29
Wikipedia has all the ratings for the first two seasons. Each episode's citation links to the relevant weekly article from TV by the Numbers, which specializes in reporting and analyzing Nielsen ratings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Legend_of_Korra_episodes
……forgetit
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Also I never got why people are so against black people being in avatar, it's a fictional world, what if Korra us black, and what of Aang is white? Sure it's based someone on again mythology, bit it's a full world with multiple races in each nation, does it really matter?
HAHA good job.
Damn shame that the Wan episodes got some of the lowest ratings.
Ah... The Legend of Korra. I don't know what to think of you.
My biggest problem with Book 2 was just how out of place it felt. I honestly thought that most things they tried bringing into it, like the spirit world and whatnot, really didn't feel cohesive to the world that was already established prior. I dunno. I mean, on the one hand they didn't explore it that much before to beging with, but it was like, too much too soon, I guess? Didn't feel like it had the spiritual elements that the original series had before. And then add with that whole mess with the characters, and damn. The reason the Wan episodes in book 2 were as good as they were were because up to that point Korra was the most boring character, IMO.
And Asami, poor Asami. Easily the best character for me in Book 1 and they tried in Book 2 in the beginning, but she really got shafted in the end there, both in the universe and as a character.
And of course despite all of that I will watch Book 3- because Avatar. I was really surprised at how soon that date was, but, we'll see. I do love me my animated shows, and I at least give the show credit for trying to give a story across the entire season, which admittedly isn't often seen in american animated shows.
Sketch_Turntable
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This isnt listed on my Comcast guide...hmm...
I didn't know a Documentary of The Last Airbender existed. Thanks
edit: 360p? pfffft This isn't 2007 anymore >:l
My apologies. I didn't realize it was low quality. I'll update my post with the new link. But here it is in 720p. I really think any fan should give it a watch though. It's awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFtfhBs8pc
I never knew people were against it? You are right about fiction though. It can be whatever it wants to be. However, I do appreciate the lengths they went to map out the region, and make each nation represent different ethnicity's. So I wouldn't be against it, but I'm also not going to hold it against them for not doing it? If that makes sense.
……forgetit
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It does, but I've known people to literally get angry at the thought that any avatar character might be black, it was a bit insane.
The shipping section #dead
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q1nceDygSk
Skip to 3:07
Oh wow, that's a thing.
Psychoward
Banned
Same actually, got two episodes in and just. blegh
It gets worse my friend. But Episode 7 and 8 is excellent. You could watch it as a stand alone movie tbh.
This video single handily vindicated Book 2 for me.
Contains Book 2 spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBl_2da7A3g
Contains Book 2 spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBl_2da7A3g
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The first season of this show was actually damn good (aside from the ending). I realized I shouldn't go in thinking it would be another TLA from the first episode, and I loved it.
But the second season was just all over the place, and the final confrontation took bizzare to a whole other level. Also, the characters were terrible aside from Verick (so).
Hopefully some things are corrected here.
But the second season was just all over the place, and the final confrontation took bizzare to a whole other level. Also, the characters were terrible aside from Verick (so).
Hopefully some things are corrected here.
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