Mato
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as has already been shown in the thread
I can honestly say I am certainly glad to be proven wrong. Fellow Zelda fans, you don't know how many hours I've pored over that E3 image. I am obsessed with it.
Legend of Zelda Wii U Gameplay Demo
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I can honestly say I am certainly glad to be proven wrong. Fellow Zelda fans, you don't know how many hours I've pored over that E3 image. I am obsessed with it.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Well there's numerous gifs and screencaps in this thread showing moving grass and flowers and Miyamoto also commented on the trees having fruit as well as seeing insects and animals all around, which is all consistent with what we say at E3
Smashman45
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I know right? So much to gleam from that one image. I'm anxious about all the little things seen and to be seen from this footage (Gamexplain).
MisterGrey3000
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Haha
Well, everybody has different opinions. I think the game looks pretty at the moment but I'm not excited for it; all the stuff that seems to be exciting some of the posters in this thread doesn't excite me (It actually worries me.)
Also, I liked SS's dungeon-like overworld (It was unique and played to the core strengths of LoZ's gameplay) and I'm quite upset with the fact that they've just outright abandoned that fantastic concept for this generic "scenery porn" Skyrim-esque overworld.
I wish they just refined, and fixed SS's dungeon-like overworld concept while also adding in new elements.
Also, I'm still worried about the "open world" structure negatively effecting the level/dungeon and item design like it did in ALBW.
Teletraan1
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Game looks pretty good. I didn't think it looked lifeless. There were animals and creatures all over the place. It just wasn't noah's ark letting out dialed up to 11 in your face code red dew edition like most games are.
Mato
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Indeed. This is what drives my interest more than anything. The things that cannot be seen. A world of mystery and beauty waiting to be discovered.
SquiddyCracker
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The ground textures kinda looked bad tbh with you.
Ask Captain Smoker, he made the enhanced gif where Link is riding with the horses.
MisterHero
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look at the horse hairThis one is beautiful, you can just glimpse the beauty of the grass, the off-screen footage destroys this because the contrast is too high, but it's ok here:
i want to cut it off and make brushes
LouisaFerre
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There really isn't a lot that stood out to me about the world. I don't think the game will be totally empty, but I do worry about with the all that talk of how BIG the map is, that they're going to make it larger than the amount of content really justifies. It's something that bothers me with a lot of games. I'd prefer a tighter world with a good distribution of details and content to something incredibly large and sparse.
Twilightzoney
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The biggest thing here I guess we'll be starting out with 5 hearts again like in Skyward Sword most likely what stands out to me.
Demos of Zelda tend to give you lots of hearts. The HUD might be demo only.
Also Link is right handed again.
Fbh
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Graphically it seems to live up to what they showed at E3.
The world still looked a bit empty but I guess it's still too early and there will be a ton of changes until the game is released.
I just hope it doesn't turn out to be one of those "big open world for the sake of having a big open world" type of games
The world still looked a bit empty but I guess it's still too early and there will be a ton of changes until the game is released.
I just hope it doesn't turn out to be one of those "big open world for the sake of having a big open world" type of games
No, he said navigating the world was sorta like a puzzle in that you can enter areas from any direction and you can try to figure out the best way, but from experience I don't consider that very puzzle-like; especially not compared to well-crafted linear environment navigation.
illmatic22
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Open world games can sometimes be a whole lot of nothing but being that this is Zelda I'm very confident that there will be all sorts of neat stuff to do. Can't wait.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Well, if they take the environmental puzzle aspect of areas in SS then I'd say that's a good direction to be going in! Just remove some of the tedium and collect-a-thons and naturally have it all seamlessly connected, as opposed to having a "fake" connection via the sky
Thunder Monkey
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Core tech, there doesn't seem to much in the way of downgrades. Some asset diversity is lower.
It was never going to look exactly like the initial reveal. Mainly because Nintendo released bullshots. The game was never going to be internally rendered at 1440p and downscaled to 1080p. It will be a 720p game.
Captain Smoker
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I think this should be right.
The E3 demo actually only shows this part of the map:
Oh man, I never considered that the map could be THAT ridiculous in size.
But you're completely right.
let me take this opportunity to say
now back to figuring out the positions of last nights gameplay
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;141968023 said:
The gamepad was the very first thing that was decided upon for the Wii U, even before it was the Wii U. Nintendo decided it was going to be the controller for their next in 2007, less than a year after the Wii released and before the first major tablet came out as well.
The Gamepad was not added in. It was always there and always intended to be the focus of their next console. The design of the console is just Nintendo continuing to things as they have for over a decade. Make a small, durable system with low energy draw within an affordable price range.
Wind Waker HD seemingly using the same lighting and being 1080p gives me hope but you're probably right that it'll be 720p.
Sorry for the late reply (I was asleep). I actually consider the openness of Link Between Worlds the games biggest weakness. It negatively impacted my favorite part of Zelda games, the dungeons.
Captain Smoker
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Good catch, you can see the lake down there, should be exactly that position.
Seriously Nintendo, this is why you show direct-feed.
gamergirly
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If the world is as huge as it appears, by default there should be more puzzles by it having such a large scale of exploration
If they're going the non-linear route they appear to be going they can't do that. SS worked because the developers knew what tools players would have at all times so they could craft puzzles around those tools. If the game is nonlinear then the overworld would have to revolve around whatever you start the game with.
That's not true. Increased volume doesn't mean increased density. It could be mostly empty space like ...every other 3D Zelda game.
Solid SOAP
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Watching this video makes it apparent why Link's tunic had to be blue. There is such heavy grass, trees, and other elements of "green" throughout the game, it'd be difficult to see Link if he was also wearing green! I don't doubt that a green tunic could pop up somewhere in the game, but I'm willing to bet the blue one is the main one throughout.
Smoothice65
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This one is beautiful, you can just glimpse the beauty of the grass, the off-screen footage destroys this because the contrast is too high, but it's ok here:
I am not worried...
- Monolith soft is almost done with xenoblade x so that team will most likely fully join the zelda team to finish things up.
- For a early build it looks freaking nice.
- If Xenoblade X can show a lot of enemies on screen I have no doubt that the same thing wil happen here (again its a early build !)
- This and (hopefully) Xenoblade X in 2015 Good times Good times !
I think this should be right.
The E3 demo actually only shows this part of the map:
if this proves correct my mind will be blown
it would also mean the area in the demo is roughly the same as in the E3 video, but with less details for some reason
Disagree. The dungeon puzzles reached a complexity level of 2 (Wall Link + dungeon item combo) and that's probably as far Nintendo is willing to take it anyway, you rarely see situations that demand 3 mechanics at once in Zelda games. I think the items used in combination with wall merging spawned a variety of interesting concepts, one basic being place a bomb near a switch orb then quickly merge with a wall that rotates upon detonation.
Combined with the fact that you can create environmental puzzles independent of inventory items, for example the escort dungeon mechanic, or the light orb you carried around in TP's Twilight Temple. These types of mechanics effectively work as regular items. Like, you can still have bomb based challenges even in the bow temple by simply adding bomb flowers in it.
ALBW dungeon design worked for me, if they wanted to add more complexity there are various ways of getting around the item system. I think the dungeons are abit simplistic by design, not as an inherent flaw of the renting system. However Paper Link carries the whole structure, it falls apart without it and if they want to keep this structure they'd have to find an equivalent overarching mechanic that the whole game is based on.
Freedom is fine, the problem with Zelda U is its scope. There is no elegant solution to the problems that arise when you make the world massive, at least nobody has found it yet.
gamergirly
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There's no indication the scale of this game will be anywhere as small as previous 3D Zeldas. The "filled" space could be the size of Twilight Princess.
giancarlo123x
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Can't stand the off screen recording. Patiently await the beautiful direct source.
ManEaterBug
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I want boats, horses, trains, loftwings, kangaroos and every other Zelda vehicle we have gotten over the years.
There is what seem to be a land bridge under the water, so maybe you can cross it during low tide?
yup SS had some boat travel, and they also used boats in WWHD with WiiU so they have a lot to build off of
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