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[PhoenixDawn]

My main concern is touching up the IQ a bit and keeping the landscape looking beautiful even when you're looking through the telescope/bow sights. I know that's probably the last thing they'll do though, so I'm not sure if it'd be fixed by E3. It'd also be nice to get a little more AA, as while the aliasing was a lot more tolerable in SS due to the art style, I think this game would benefit a lot from having a crisper, smooth image to fit with the more cellshaded/ anime artstyle (not sure how to describe it.)

 

[Lord Ghirahim]

Only 6 more months till E3.

155.5 days is closer to 5 months ;//

 

[Ultra Numb]

I actually kinda hope there is voice acting in this, including Link.

I used to be on the "everyone is voiced except Link" train but now I just think if Nintendo did go down that route it would be even more immersion breaking then just having all text. So there's a serious cinematic scene going on, and someone is talking to Link and he just does he usual grunt or nod? Nintendo are saying they're going to break conventions with this game, how about voice acting?

 

[balgajo]

So what do you guys expect to be improved by E3 when they show Zelda again?

My bets:

Clearer IQ?
Not so much.

Less Jaggies?
Actually more than E3 footage.

Higher quality textures?
Yes.

Better rocks?
Definitely yes. Texture mapping on some mountains is ridiculous even for GC generation standards. I can't believe Nintendo would launch a game that way.

Smoother animations?
Yes. Judging by GameAward's footage there is work to be done on animations. While horse's animation is very good there is some awkward movements when Link jumps in bullet time and when he jumps with sailcloth.

More Wildlife and/or flora?
No.

MORE BLOOM
No.

 

[TheMoon]

My main concern is touching up the IQ a bit and keeping the landscape looking beautiful even when you're looking through the telescope/bow sights. I know that's probably the last thing they'll do though, so I'm not sure if it'd be fixed by E3. It'd also be nice to get a little more AA, as while the aliasing was a lot more tolerable in SS due to the art style, I think this game would benefit a lot from having a crisper, smooth image to fit with the more cellshaded/ anime artstyle (not sure how to describe it.)

How are you talking about touching up AA and the IQ if those are the things we have seen absolutely nothing from other than the completely flawless E3 video?

I actually kinda hope there is voice acting in this, including Link.

I used to be on the "everyone is voiced except Link" train but now I just think if Nintendo did go down that route it would be even more immersion breaking then just having all text. So there's a serious cinematic scene going on, and someone is talking to Link and he just does he usual grunt or nod? Nintendo are saying they're going to break conventions with this game, how about voice acting?

Not gonna happen. Link will never speak. They're just not gonna do it.

 

[KiN0]

I hope they change the flip to a regular jump. It looks so out of place.

 

[pinkurocket]

It would be a megaton if they showed a trailer at E3, really epic, then it zooms in on a character and they start talking. That voice-acting. Link talking would be strange, but frankly dialogue in Zelda has been really awkward in a lot of games. Skyward Sword especially, where you select dialogue options or you can see him talk a bunch while the camera pans away. Either make him a good mute, or just let him talk. Combining voice-acting with a mute Link with dialogue options would be a mess.

 

[TheCongressman1]

I hope they change the flip to a regular jump. It looks so out of place.

Me too, it looked fine the way it happened in the first teaser.

 

[sinxtanx]

It would be a megaton if they showed a trailer at E3, really epic, then it zooms in on a character and they start talking. That voice-acting. Link talking would be strange, but frankly dialogue in Zelda has been really awkward in a lot of games. Skyward Sword especially, where you select dialogue options or you can see him talk a bunch while the camera pans away. Either make him a good mute, or just let him talk. Combining voice-acting with a mute Link with dialogue options would be a mess.

It could well work if they did "Hylian". Made up languages rarely sound weird, and there's no need to do voice localization. For some good examples, see Ico/SotC.

 

[Mango The Magician]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but if they wanted Link to talk then just make everyone talk Hylian, and just don't translate his parts with a text box.

 

[Lunar15]

The series needs voice acting, at least in cutscenes. It was so apparent in TP and SS, especially when they started making everyone's mouths move. You can even do it without Link talking, so I don't see why anyone would be against it.

 

[TheCongressman1]

It would be a megaton if they showed a trailer at E3, really epic, then it zooms in on a character and they start talking. That voice-acting. Link talking would be strange, but frankly dialogue in Zelda has been really awkward in a lot of games. Skyward Sword especially, where you select dialogue options or you can see him talk a bunch while the camera pans away. Either make him a good mute, or just let him talk. Combining voice-acting with a mute Link with dialogue options would be a mess.

It could well work if they did "Hylian". Made up languages rarely sound weird, and there's no need to do voice localization. For some good examples, see Ico/SotC.

I agree. With 'Hylian' there wouldn't be the need to keep Link silent, but he also doesn't have to constantly talk drawing attention to his voice. There can be a good balance.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but if they wanted Link to talk then just make everyone talk Hylian, and just don't translate his parts with a text box.

Exactly. This is the best solution.

You are asked a yes or no question, you choose, then link says a small amount Hylian and no text.

 

[crooked spin]

Any games that have good voice acting in made up languages? Seems like a lot of work to create a language that sounds better than "goo goo blah blah" and have it have an emotional impact. Just give me Japanese/English voice acting please.

 

[sinxtanx]

Any games that have good voice acting in made up languages? Seems like a lot of work to create a language that sounds better than "goo goo blah blah" and have it have an emotional impact. Just give me Japanese/English voice acting please.

Shadow of the Colossus

 

[Mango The Magician]

Exactly. This is the best solution.

You are asked a yes or no question, you choose, then link says a small amount Hylian and no text.

The only issue I see with this is that it conflicts with WW, which is a small issue, but it would be kinda of a annoyance to assume that they speak english or whatever real world language and then hear them speak something else, but I guess SS already did do this with the Hylian singing so yeah.

Any games that have good voice acting in made up languages? Seems like a lot of work to create a language that sounds better than "goo goo blah blah" and have it have an emotional impact. Just give me Japanese/English voice acting please.

I've heard that both Shadow of The Colossus and Ico are good, haven't played them though. Also, to play devil's advocate, if all Link is doing is explain something or answering yes or no, then I'm having a hard time imagining what kind of response he could give that would keep people who do wish to imprint upon him from doing so, I mean they've built his personality slightly before so long as you're willing to look for it so maybe English or whatever wouldn't be a huge deal, I don't know, I don't consider him me by any stretch of the imagination so maybe I'm just not in the position to determine what people would or wouldn't be willing to except.

 

[LordOfChaos]

/r/shittytumblrgifs
What's the point of even having that move if he just says "roads" and not the full line in the clip?

Anywho. Carry on.

 

[ReyVGM]

The series needs voice acting, at least in cutscenes. It was so apparent in TP and SS, especially when they started making everyone's mouths move. You can even do it without Link talking, so I don't see why anyone would be against it.

Yeah. I've always felt that Zelda doesn't need voice acting, but after playing Skyward Sword, I felt that it needed it. The characters mouthing off while text was being displayed looked so weird, and they didn't even bother to match both up.

 

[ReyVGM]

/r/shittytumblrgifs
What's the point of even having that move if he just says "roads" and not the full line in the clip?

Anywho. Carry on.

I don't understand what you mean?

 

[Joqu]

The only issue I see with this is that it conflicts with WW, which is a small issue, but it would be kinda of a annoyance to assume that they speak english or whatever real world language and then hear them speak something else, but I guess SS already did do this with the Hylian singing so yeah.

I don't really think of that as an issue but they could easily mix in the occasional English word if they wanted to.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

So what do you guys expect to be improved by E3 when they show Zelda again?

Clearer IQ?

Less Jaggies?

Higher quality textures?

Better rocks?

Smoother animations?

More Wildlife and/or flora?

MORE BLOOM

If the could get it to look like what they showed when they reveal it, that would be great.
(I'm not talking about the 2012 Zelda tech demo, but the Zelda U reveal)

 

[Mango The Magician]

I don't really think of that as an issue but they could easily mix in the occasional English word if they wanted to.

Well, like I said it's a small issue, at least for me, that doesn't mean I'd be against voice acting though.

 

[TheMoon]

Yeah. I've always felt that Zelda doesn't need voice acting, but after playing Skyward Sword, I felt that it needed it. The characters mouthing off while text was being displayed looked so weird, and they didn't even bother to match both up.

They're not gonna sync their lip animations to 6+ languages...

 

[delta25]

The emptiness of the world is defiantly a concern, but if SOTC taught me anything, you can still create a world void of almost all life and meaning and still have the ability to create so much intrigue and mystery and reason to explore it even in the face of emptiness.

 

[ReyVGM]

They're not gonna sync their lip animations to 6+ languages...

I didn't say anything about lip synch. I'm talkimg about starting the mouthing animation when the text starts and stopping it when the text ends.
It felt so weird to read the text with all the pauses and ellipses, while the characters kept moving their mouths.

 

[dragonlife]

I don't understand what you mean?

The Doc only says one word, but the text is a sentence.

 

[ugoo18]

Honestly it feels like it's almost too late to have VA in Zelda without it causing a large upheaval. Had VA been implemented from WW onwards it might not have been as big an issue considering how drastic a shift WW already was with its artstyle anyway.

 

[ReyVGM]

The Doc only says one word, but the text is a sentence.

Ah, the gif is not the full scene. Got it.

 

[zeldablue]

Give them Hylian gibberish.

Keep Link mute. At least then I can hear the inflection in their voices and stuff.

OR. Do the Fire Emblem Awakening thing where everyone says like...3 words out of each paragraph of dialogue.

 

[ReyVGM]

Honestly it feels like it's almost too late to have VA in Zelda without it causing a large upheaval. Had VA been implemented from WW onwards it might not have been as big an issue considering how drastic a shift WW already was with its artstyle anyway.

I'm more afraid of the game not being unconventional enough to match the hype and (misguided) expectations

With the previous games, you always hoped for something sufficiently different, but deep down you knew it was still a traditional Zelda game.
But since the game is now "open world", a lot of people are going to expect a Skyrim, Dragon Age, Witcher type of game, and they'll be severely disappointed when they find out it's still Zelda.
I mean, there were people talking about hunting or Epona dying in Zelda because they saw animals and other horses in the TGA video.

I know I'm being a little bit vague with what I'm trying to say, but with Nintendo touting the "rethinking of Zelda conventions" and the game being "open world", it kinda feels like this is going to be a Zelda renaissance, but in the end it won't be enough for those people (and reviewers) that play more meatier games like Dragon Age and such.

Hopefully it's different enough in Nintendo's own way to skirt around comparisons to Skyrim or Witcher.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I don't understand what you mean?

Oh, no big deal, just irritates me when gifs with quotes don't have the actual quote in the motion of the gif, he's clearly just saying "roads" there, but the quote is longer. Check out /r/shittytumblrgifs, it's all about there being no point to it being a gif.

http://www.reddit.com/r/shittytumblrgifs

 

[ReyVGM]

Oh, no big deal, just irritates me when gifs with quotes don't have the actual quote in the motion of the gif, he's clearly just saying "roads" there, but the quote is longer. Check out /r/shittytumblrgifs, it's all about there being no point to it being a gif.

http://www.reddit.com/r/shittytumblrgifs

Haha, I understand.

 

[Blues1990]

/r/shittytumblrgifs
What's the point of even having that move if he just says "roads" and not the full line in the clip?

Anywho. Carry on.

I'll see you in the future, brah! (But seriously, why are you harshin' my mellow, fellow?)

 

[Easy_D]

Give them Hylian gibberish.

Keep Link mute. At least then I can hear the inflection in their voices and stuff.

OR. Do the Fire Emblem Awakening thing where everyone says like...3 words out of each paragraph of dialogue.

This please. I liked Shadow of the Colossus' crazy language, made it seem all the more mystical.

 

[ortauq]

I heard something very interesting from a friend of mine.
My friend's older sister is working with representatives of companies so they can do fluent presentation in English, when English is not their mother tongue.
I know that she did actually worked with Nintendo before, but I'm not 100 percent sure, if my friend is tricking me with the following information, or if it is an actual information he got from his sister.

Of course this is a small information, because my friend's sister is not really allowed to tell anything about her work, but she told him the following:

She is working and had a first meeting with Eiji Aonuma and it seems that the meeting is already about a Zelda-WiiU-presentation at E3.

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".
It replaces the first Zelda-Game on NES in the timeline.
But it is a completely new game.
I'm sorry, but that is all a got. But it is interesting information in my opinion.

 

[Dimmle]

I heard something very interesting from a friend of mine.
My friend's older sister is working with representatives of companies so they can do fluent presentation in English, when English is not their mother tongue.
I know that she did actually worked with Nintendo before, but I'm not 100 percent sure, if my friend is tricking me with the following information, or if it is an actual information he got from his sister.

Of course this is a small information, because my friend's sister is not really allowed to tell anything about her work, but she told him the following:

She is working and had a first meeting with Eiji Aonuma and it seems that the meeting is already about a Zelda-WiiU-presentation at E3.

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".
It replaces the first Zelda-Game on NES in the timeline.
But it is a completely new game.
I'm sorry, but that is all a got. But it is interesting information in my opinion.

bombshell

 

[Gleethor]

I heard something very interesting from a friend of mine.
My friend's older sister is working with representatives of companies so they can do fluent presentation in English, when English is not their mother tongue.
I know that she did actually worked with Nintendo before, but I'm not 100 percent sure, if my friend is tricking me with the following information, or if it is an actual information he got from his sister.

Of course this is a small information, because my friend's sister is not really allowed to tell anything about her work, but she told him the following:

She is working and had a first meeting with Eiji Aonuma and it seems that the meeting is already about a Zelda-WiiU-presentation at E3.

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".
It replaces the first Zelda-Game on NES in the timeline.
But it is a completely new game.
I'm sorry, but that is all a got. But it is interesting information in my opinion.

Really guy? Really?

 

[BY2K]

Replaces? So it's a reboot if true?

 

[Malus]

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".

I swear to god.

 

[SweetDonuts]

It's been speculated this could be a reboot anyway, hasn't it?

 

[Dimmle]

I think this information merits its own thread

 

[zeldablue]

I heard something very interesting from a friend of mine.
My friend's older sister is working with representatives of companies so they can do fluent presentation in English, when English is not their mother tongue.
I know that she did actually worked with Nintendo before, but I'm not 100 percent sure, if my friend is tricking me with the following information, or if it is an actual information he got from his sister.

Of course this is a small information, because my friend's sister is not really allowed to tell anything about her work, but she told him the following:

She is working and had a first meeting with Eiji Aonuma and it seems that the meeting is already about a Zelda-WiiU-presentation at E3.

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".
It replaces the first Zelda-Game on NES in the timeline.
But it is a completely new game.
I'm sorry, but that is all a got. But it is interesting information in my opinion.

Oh geez.

This seems plausible. But c'mon. If this is true, I will flip (off a horse.)

 

[BigTnaples]

So I was at Target today looking at 3DS stuff and realized the WiiiU is still $300.00.



Fucking seriously? The XBO and PS4 are regularly dipping down that low on sale... This thing needs to be 250-200 by now..


I maintain that unless ZeldaU is amazing, or the price hits like 150-175, I won't be buying a WiiU. The hardware is way too outdated for that asking price...


At any rate. Been playing a ton of OoT3D on my 3DS, and have the MMXL ordered. These games simply had a magic that IMO hasn't been recaptured since. (Although WW had its moments).

If ZeldaU can recapture even a fraction of that Magic, it will make the system worth owning IMO.

 

[brandonh83]

Well, Skyward Sword was basically a prologue of the entire series, so it would make sense to have this be the first game with the Link that follows the Skyward Sword Link, as well as Ganon's first actual appearance. Skyward didn't have a proper "overworld" because it was mainly flirting with the land of Hyrule as it was undiscovered to the people of Skyloft and before there were any real settlements, with the emphasis given to those series staple, identifiable sections such as the desert and woods. Also people are speculating that the map shown has sections from the map in the original. So where Skyward introduced Hyrule's main focal points bit by bit, it'd make sense for the next game, if a chronological sequel, to feature the full thing in all its glory.

I'm not saying that there's any solid evidence to back any of this up just yet, and I do think that there will be a subtitle of some sort, but they could treat this as a sort of reboot with Skyward acting as the main info dump as it literally explains everything.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

I heard something very interesting from a friend of mine.
My friend's older sister is working with representatives of companies so they can do fluent presentation in English, when English is not their mother tongue.
I know that she did actually worked with Nintendo before, but I'm not 100 percent sure, if my friend is tricking me with the following information, or if it is an actual information he got from his sister.

Of course this is a small information, because my friend's sister is not really allowed to tell anything about her work, but she told him the following:

She is working and had a first meeting with Eiji Aonuma and it seems that the meeting is already about a Zelda-WiiU-presentation at E3.

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".
It replaces the first Zelda-Game on NES in the timeline.
But it is a completely new game.
I'm sorry, but that is all a got. But it is interesting information in my opinion.

 

[Tookay]

Well, Skyward Sword was basically a prologue of the entire series, so it would make sense to have this be the first game with the Link that follows the Skyward Sword Link, as well as Ganon's first actual appearance.

Wait, unless I'm misinterpreting you, Ganon's first actual appearance in the canon is OoT, not the original LoZ. OoT is his origin story.

And SS Link is definitely far removed from the original LoZ Link.

LoZ1 is closer to the end of the timeline, not the beginning.

 

[PhoenixDawn]

Sounds reasonable to me. It would make sense for this game to follow right after Skyward Sworld and build upon the narrative described in that game while essentially 'overwriting' the story was found in the original LoZ. The new game has a higher level of technology that seems to relate to what we saw in SS, especially in the 'past' sections of the game so it could be interesting if the game explored the destruction/downfall of the land to evil. It would be interesting to see a game that also showed more into the origins of Ganon(dorf) - i.e showing his rise to the king of thieves rather than simply having him be the ruler of evil from the outset. OOT showed a little of this but it could be cool to see it expanded on again.

 

[brandonh83]

Wait, unless I'm misinterpreting you, Ganon's first actual appearance in the canon is OoT, not the original LoZ. OoT is his origin story.

And SS Link is definitely far removed from the original LoZ Link.

The first LoZ is closer to the end of the timeline, not the beginning.

I'm only saying that if Skyward is being used as the prologue or starting point, that the next game if it's a follow up could be something of a reboot of the original; so yeah, there'd be some meddling with the shitty, convoluted timeline. I personally wouldn't care.

This is all probably way off though.

Sounds reasonable to me. It would make sense for this game to follow right after Skyward Sworld and build upon the narrative described in that game while essentially 'overwriting' the story was found in the original LoZ.

Yeah. If they're "rebooting" the story in order to make it make more sense, I can see them pulling a Star Wars expanded universe. I for one wouldn't mind if they started a continuing story here instead of releasing random games at random chronological states.

 

[Lunar15]

So, just got off the phone with my third cousin twice removed who empties the trash bins for Nintendo. He said that he saw a document that said that the Wii U Zelda game will be called The Story of Link and it's set in an alternate timeline from all the other zelda games and Link is the prince of hyrule because they wanted this to be a brand new start for the zelda series and they thought too many people thought link's name was zelda due to the old name.

 

[Ahnez]

I heard something very interesting from a friend of mine.
My friend's older sister is working with representatives of companies so they can do fluent presentation in English, when English is not their mother tongue.
I know that she did actually worked with Nintendo before, but I'm not 100 percent sure, if my friend is tricking me with the following information, or if it is an actual information he got from his sister.

Of course this is a small information, because my friend's sister is not really allowed to tell anything about her work, but she told him the following:

She is working and had a first meeting with Eiji Aonuma and it seems that the meeting is already about a Zelda-WiiU-presentation at E3.

It seems like Zelda WiiU's title will just be "The Legend Of Zelda".
It replaces the first Zelda-Game on NES in the timeline.
But it is a completely new game.
I'm sorry, but that is all a got. But it is interesting information in my opinion.

This is somehow hard to believe.

Megaton if true.. But still hard to believe

 

[Francokid1]

I'm willing to believe that it's called "The Legend of Zelda" and that its a reboot. The way the game world looks already gives me Zelda 1 vibes.
But does this mean we'll get The Adventure of Link Wii U too? I hope so.