Trilobit
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The dumbest thing in the world would be to make astrobot for the Nintendo switch. I couldn't think of anything Dumber in my life.
How about... putting rollerblades on a chicken?
The dumbest thing in the world would be to make astrobot for the Nintendo switch. I couldn't think of anything Dumber in my life.
Might have something to do with the 30 million gamers currently playing games on thier xboxes, but hey, your right, no reason.
But at what long-term cost?
26.7 million. Also might not represent number of active XBS users; some people have multiple systems and collector's models they probably don't touch.
Would be somewhat similar with PS5, but to a much lesser degree (for one, there aren't that many special edition PS5s out to buy).
The shareholders.But at what long-term cost?
Don’t know about LEGO Horizon but in general if Sony really want to convert gamers to PS5, through ports and sequels on tentpole releases, then they should absolutely port to Xbox. That could actually work. It’s the same type of customer.Still the notion is valid, there is a group of millions of xbox owners that probably don't own anything else, and that's why a port may be worthwhile. It might be different if the architecture of modern systems were drastically different, then it might not bet worth the cost. As it stands, minimal cost and trouble.
Don’t know about LEGO Horizon but in general if Sony really want to convert gamers to PS5, through ports and sequels on tentpole releases, then they should absolutely port to Xbox. That could actually work. It’s the same type of customer.
But this plan to convert PC gamers to console gamers is dumb, it’s never going to work.
Switch to PS5 isn’t going to work either but if they just want extra sales for a kids friendly game then it’s a clever move.
I just don’t know if the Horizon IP is well-known among kids.
They should’ve removed human kills in Forbidden West and dropped the age rating to 12. Would’ve been the ultimate kids game. Dinosaurs and robots. Perfection![]()
Sure...but I think it is a fairly obvious thing to say. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the meeting where this was discussed... Switch, with its 117+ million install base more than likely wasn't a hard sell. Lego could probably just send out a spreadsheet showing unit sales for past titles and get Sony execs onboard.
The shareholders.
The guy is a financial leader. He doesnt care about the game side of business, but return of invesment. So brand value is nothing, if it doesnt bring the money for shareholders.
As I said, salty As fuck...Nah, they just salty they didn’t get a character in Smash and are lobbying for it to happen in the next one.
Might work if they think MS has thrown in the white flag, not so sure about that yet completely. Though like people say, who knows what we might be moving towards. Would be a crazy world if all of the sudden there was just hardware and all games were on everything.
I agree the plan to convert PC to console, they like what they play on and aren't likely to change.
Switch ya, likely just for sales and probably doesn't convert anyone. I actaully think that half the switch owners could care less what they play on, they just want some good games in a portable. That's why some competition in the area would be interesting.
I also agree on the Horizon, maybe just an excuse to make another lego game without having to come up with original ideas.
As I said, salty As fuck...
Horizon as a series has sold over 33M copies with 2 games and a VR game.Herman is really using his position as a ceo to try to promote this unpopular character he created lmao.
The number of people ignoring how massively popular Horizon is and the mass appeal of lego is just weird.
You just ruined my day. That is some bullshit. I just verified that this isn't being released on PC.So what will PC gamers do when NCAA college football drops next month? And what will they do when GTA 6 comes out fall of 2025?
Horizon as a series has sold over 33M copies with 2 games and a VR game.
None of this has anything to do with anything I said.And? Great argument against his position as a ceo to promote a character he created. We could put GoW creator as a ceo and see how this fairs. Good luck defending that.
Maybe if he send a letter to Nintendo they can put Aloy at Smash. Maybe even Mario Kart.
So what will PC gamers do when NCAA college football drops next month? And what will they do when GTA 6 comes out fall of 2025?
I would have thought they currently see Xbox as not only their competitor in platform type (i.e not handheld like Switch), but also a user base that prefers to rent games rather than buy.Might have something to do with the 30 million gamers currently playing games on thier xboxes, but hey, your right, no reason.
/threadLego game does multiplatform release like all other Lego games before it.
Xbox fans: OMG, SONY IS NOW DOING DAY AND DATE ON PC! Omg they release on the switch, It's only a matter time they release games on Xbox too!!
It also funny watching Xbox fans forget what collaboration mean.
Silly Xbox fans.
You just ruined my day. That is some bullshit. I just verified that this isn't being released on PC.
@James Sawyer Ford we're gonna need an explanation bud
Which makes the idea SIE still view Xbox as a (true) competitor seem flawed. In turn, why LEGO Horizon skipping Xbox looks flawed, or why Helldivers 2 not on Xbox could be argued as similarly flawed. I mean that's a GAAS; GAAS aren't considered tentpole games and SIE have said it's the tentpole games that'll drive people to buy PlayStations, right?
These are the questions that can legitimately be asked now going forward and it's all because (IMO) SIE have completely muddied their own optics and clear-cut message with a constantly-evolving (in bringing non-PS platforms closer to parity with PS consoles) multiplatform strategy. They've invited this mess.
Damn Sony's own stupid heads are through their own platform under the bus. Smh![]()
LEGO Horizon Adventures Is on Nintendo Switch Because It's a Game 'For Everyone'
Guerrilla wanted "as broad an audience as possible"www.pushsquare.com
Sonyboys will be maaaaaaaaaadSwitch players will quickly realize "Wow, this series is boring as fuck!"
Sonyboys will be maaaaaaaaaad
I think the best thing Sony tends to do is not make super hard line mandates. They typically leave things up to devs on occasion. That doesn't work in all instances, but it's better than drawing up hard lines and then tripping up over that line when it gets in the way.
The industry is evolving so Sony is smart to evolve with it. But with a measured approach. Right now would be the worst time to share their 1st party games with Xbox. They just shouldn't do it! Let Xbox (the brand) die. Allow them to go mostly 3rd party. And in the meantime keep taking their market share.
But the thing is Sony are already sharing some 1P games with Xbox! MBL The Show, Destiny 2...Marathon in the future. Yeah, those are all GAAS, but they're still on Xbox. So it does bring up questions why something like Helldivers 2 doesn't have an Xbox version, even if Phil only mentioned that to drum up more BS against exclusivity in gaming (because that's convenient for Microsoft).
Yes the industry's evolving, and Sony has to adapt with it. But I think they've could've done a better job at it than they have. They could have better approached it so that these questions regarding value proposition to their own console, never entered the picture. Sony took the easy path and now the muddiness around their messaging with platforms surrounding their games is the price being paid for that.
Its a little bit different than that as the Switch also competes in the home console market, albeit with a different value proposition.When your "enemy" is slowly destroying themselves, why start throwing them lifelines? I mean, the Xbox brand is basically using PS5 as a lifeline themselves. Which Sony doesn't care about because they are making free money off of it, and it looks embarrassing on Xbox's part. But, they sure as hell aren't going to throw any personal lifelines over to them.
Sony is now in a partnership with Lego and both see this Lego game to be a perfect experiment releasing on the Switch, something they are obviously not directly competing with. We can see that by both the Switch and the PS4/5 both selling perfectly fine with the other on the market. Nintendo currently has the handheld market on lock, while Sony has the home console market.
I don't see Horizon being that different to Monster Hunter Rise or Breath of the Wild.The Switch audience couldn't be less interested in the Horizon IP, it's the opposite of what they like. Gravity Rush would have been better if Sony hadn't killed it off.
More than 50% of ganes sold on Switch are from third parties. So yes.Do Switch players buy anything other than Nintendo made games?
People keep using MLB as an example which is just a terrible exampleBecause the MLB The Show, Destiny, and Marathon weren't in their control. HD2 was. It's really that simple.
A fair question, considering the popularity of gta alone.
The shareholders.
The guy is a financial leader. He doesnt care about the game side of business, but return of invesment. So brand value is nothing, if it doesnt bring the money for shareholders.
They'll be too busy playing stuff like Banana to even notice GTA6 is missing.
They will be the death of PlayStation's (proverbial) spirit. Sony needs to stop listening to the shareholders so much, or start looking for better-minded ones. Simple as that.
Nintendo need to return the favour and put Mario Kart on PS5.
PlayStation Publishing is the label, eh? I had guessed that LEGO itself would have done the off-PS releases but Sony's all-in on the cross-platform release here (except for no online crossing.)
Yeah, that is the more surprising part IMO...
I'm trying to remember...did SCEA or the other SCE branches back in the day directly handle publishing of games like Wipeout and Destruction Derby on N64/Saturn/Windows/DOS?
Psygnosis, of course, they were also a separate publisher on PS1. Wipeout and Destruction Derby were directly published by SCE only in Japan, due to Psygnosis not having any Japanese office (and they didn't need one, anyway).
I also don't think LEGO has a video game publishing business.
Psygnosis still published some stuff on Sega Saturn like Detruction Derby or Wipeout 2097.In the US, Wipeout 64 was published by Midway, and DD64 was done by Midway; Krazy Ivan and other games (including Wipeout 2097/XL, came through Psygnosis but did not get a US release.
It 99% is, so in that case you would have PlayStation Publishing acting as the publisher, and SIE as the distributor for the physical release.Assuming this is a physical release product, a real publisher matters a bit more
PlayStation PC LLC took their PC releases over in late 2021, and they recently changed their name to PlayStation Publishing LLC due to LEGO Horizon Adventures on Switch (they refuse to publish anything under Sony Interactive Entertainment on non-PlayStation platforms). I wouldn't be surprised if they also start handling their mobile games soon."PlayStation Publishing" is the name on the Steam games; I read that it was originally the PlayStation Mobile group, (although PS Mobile still lists on the apps,) and it's I assume the LLC brand they'll use for pretty much all non-PS releases.
too many people misconstrue that just because they don’t like something that means no one else shouldThe number of people ignoring how massively popular Horizon is and the mass appeal of lego is just weird.
100% agreed. Just get new writers and get rid of Aloy. Also make the gameplay less bloated Ubishit.The horizon series has limitless potential in the right hands will be one of the biggest franchises in gaming.
Let's see if they can pull it off.
Psygnosis still published some stuff on Sega Saturn like Detruction Derby or Wipeout 2097.
It wasn't anything more than branding, just like every SCEA game from 1995 and 1996, as it wasn't a separate company from SCEI at the time, but rather, a division. The Sony Interactive Entertainment America LLC that still exists today (albeit only focusing on sales and marketing business since 2018) wasn't established until January 1997.Fun trivia: another game from those frontier days of PlayStation where anything goed was Jet Moto, and that game was published on PC by "Sony Interactive Studios America" instead of SCEA.
Yes, it was published by SMEJ, which used to own 50% of SCEI until 2004, and were also a multi-platform video game publisher, even during their CBS/Sony days.There was a PC version of Twisted Metal, but that only made it to Japan and carried the oft-used-for-weird-reasons "Sony Music Entertainment" publishing label.
It 99% is, so in that case you would have PlayStation Publishing acting as the publisher, and SIE as the distributor for the physical release.
I guess their big tentpole games they enjoy reaching fewer peopleWait, so you're saying that, more games they sell, more money they make ?
I'm amazed, who would have guessed that ?
Heh, I was actually thinking on bringing that up before, but I thought it was not necessary.You know what's funny about this to me right now is, I don't think "PlayStation Publishing LLC" has a logo to put on a box for a physical release?
They've never needed one with the PC products since they're all just on Steam or EGS, and I can't find there being a logo for the publisher in the PC releases so far. (All the credits either are text or go right to the producer card for PS Studios.) SIE has a logo, PS Studios has a logo, PlayStation Mobile had a logo, but "PlayStation PC" and "PlayStation Publishing" are just labels in the boilerplate and metadata of products as far as the public release copies of games.
I imagine they'll just do the standard PS symbol on white or black, it doesn't need to be fancy or specific, but PS Publishing will have to register a brand (if they haven't already and I've simply never seen it) just for this one boxed product so far.
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(BTW, I wasn't sure if PS Productions has its own logo since I didn't remember if the Uncharted movie posters has it, but they do and it's on there in the fine print.)
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Is the strategy to use the Lego name to get peopel familiar with the HOrizon brand?
Is that going to be enough to make this game sell? IT just seems like the most obscure licensed IP Lego title yet.
I tried to play HOrizon on PS4 ...but too many context sensitive asks and cutscenes and I bailed quick.