Bojji
Member
Yeah, why the fuck would i want to watch anything in full sunlight?
I got B2 two weeks ago and I don't think I need anything brighter than that.
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LG announces 2023 OLED TV lineup up to 70% brighter
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Yeah, why the fuck would i want to watch anything in full sunlight?
I got B2 two weeks ago and I don't think I need anything brighter than that.
Kuranghi
Gold Member
The quote was the G3 is 70% brighter than the B-series, the B2 was 700 nits on 2/5% windows in HDR, so this means it will probably be around 1100-1200 nits, ie 100-200 more than last years G2. It's clever wording, at least they aren't just talking complete shite like Samsung saying the new QD-OLED will be 2000 nits 
Some interesting changes for sure this year but it's not a big year for innovation I don't think. I'm more excited to see how lesser brands improve, like Hisense and TCL, hopefully start to fix their shortcomings like MEMC stutter on scene changes, peak highlight clipping, red bleed on LCD sets and more.
Some interesting changes for sure this year but it's not a big year for innovation I don't think. I'm more excited to see how lesser brands improve, like Hisense and TCL, hopefully start to fix their shortcomings like MEMC stutter on scene changes, peak highlight clipping, red bleed on LCD sets and more.
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mxbison
Member
Nah you're right, every house and apartment can just be darkened. My bad.
ResilientBanana
Member
You act like everyone has a choice.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yup because I should want to shut off my view of the outside world just to watch my TV
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
Kinda same for me. I did find my earlier C9 brightness (max about 700nits) lacking in HDR, but the new G2 (slightly >1000nits) is super bright in HDR and I think that's just perfect.
If the new TVs indeed reach 1700 odd nits (70% increase), that's too much IMHO.
TonyK
Member
Are they solved the gamma flickering issue with oled in these new TVs? I have a LG CX and the problem is very noticeable at VRR 120hz in dark scenes when the framerate fluctuates. I know it can't be solved with a firmware in actual oled TVs because is a hardware problem, but maybe these new ones don't have the issue?
YOU PC BRO?!
Gold Member
I had the same dilemma this time last year when I picked up my 65" C1. I had planned to pick up a C2 on release but it was difficult to argue with the crazy sale prices I was seeing on the C1.
For me the 65" C2 launched in the UK @ £2699. At the same time I managed to find a 65" C1 @ £1350. That was literally half the price of the new model. With the difference I could have purchased all the latest consoles with change or one of the top end soundbars. For me it was a no brainer.
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Kazekage1981
Member
how many nits again for 70% brighter?
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Knightime_X
Member
What it's like to turn my TV on at full brightness...
But 70% more?
But 70% more?
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Brighter doesn’t usually mean better in regard to TVs. Most people have theirs way to bright in general.
Sleepwalker
Member
Not going for a regular WOLED after using QD OLED for a bit. Specially if QD OLEDs will be 77 inches this year.
I'm interested however, in a 42 inch C3 if the price is right. I think the 34 inch qd oled monitor is too small
I'm interested however, in a 42 inch C3 if the price is right. I think the 34 inch qd oled monitor is too small
Sleepwalker
Member
There are several ways you can control light in a space if you want to game. Doesn't mean you have to get your rooms pitch black lol
Sleepwalker
Member
No, it helps display a more accurate HDR picture.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
2000 nits is too much bright suns in the face!.
Seriously, I have c1 and it's 800 nits peak I already pushing it hen you exit from a cave in uncharted and so on.
Remember that oleds are supposed to be played inside... with blinds dimmed or lights off/limited. As any tv should really.
In this situation your eyes are adjusted to being inside, so this might be a lot
Seriously, I have c1 and it's 800 nits peak I already pushing it hen you exit from a cave in uncharted and so on.
Remember that oleds are supposed to be played inside... with blinds dimmed or lights off/limited. As any tv should really.
In this situation your eyes are adjusted to being inside, so this might be a lot
Once again, it's really not, what you've described is a situation where the nits are rounded up because the HDR range is compressed, under a higher nit display, coming out of the cave would be a smoother transition, where as the top end would only be used for the extremes (such as the sun), everything else will be spread across a higher range creating a more dynamic picture.
I know people like OLEDS but this talk about "800 nits is enough" is just akin to "30fps is fine, 60fps isn't needed and 120fps is too much", until you experience the larger range you won't know what it's actually doing, currently HDR is heavily compressed when it's tonemapped down to less than a tenth of its value.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Faster switching in and out of HDR modes.
I need that please. My Samsung goes black and I have a heart attack thinking somethings wrong, then a good 30 seconds later the picture comes back.
Potato Samsung parts.
82 inch Oled will break the bank. I would like at least 82 inches.
I need that please. My Samsung goes black and I have a heart attack thinking somethings wrong, then a good 30 seconds later the picture comes back.
Potato Samsung parts.
82 inch Oled will break the bank. I would like at least 82 inches.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Let's see. I really like webos on my LG C8 hence why l feel like sticking with LG.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I currently have a 77" C9 in my media room and tried a C1 to compare and when the sun is up they simply arent bright enough for me but then again my entire East facing wall is glass and nothing to stop the sun as soon as it pops over the horizonMy brother's 3 year old OLED is so bright it's almost blinding. Some people can't get enough though.
Guess what I am saying is X amount of nits might be great for some but its not a one size fits all scenario
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That's called shitty room design, nothing else.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Not even remotely close when your wall is facing the ocean and you like to see the sun rise
JackMcGunns
Member
Nope, still shitty, put your TV on a wall where the sun doesn't fuck with it, that's fucking room design 101 and it's universal if you want to actually use your TV.Not even remotely close when your wall is facing the ocean and you like to see the sun rise
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Nope, love our set up and prefer TVs with higher peak brightness and sorry that seems to bother some that I prefer to not be in a dungeon to watch my TV
cinnamonandgravy
Member
gonna be real interesting when microLED hits the market.
excited for 100"+ 8k.
might cost ~$10k but mommy wow, im a big boy now.
excited for 100"+ 8k.
might cost ~$10k but mommy wow, im a big boy now.
zeroluck
Member
I don't know why OLED needs to get brighter, according to the internet most OLED owners live in a cave and are allergic to sunlight. All joking aside I doubt this 70% increase brightness applies to fullscreen brightness, it will probably still remain a measly 160 nits. Specular highlight isn't really a weakness of OLED, it is the low fullscreen brightness that lead to absence of HDR effects in high ABL scene.
Soltype
Member
nvm then, i had it backwards
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Investor9872
Member
Only the G3 and up will be 75% brighter than the B2, which has less brightness than the C2. Waiting to hear whether the C3 will be 25 -30% brighter than the C2 or not.
Edit: This just came in from Vincent of HDTVTest, and there doesn't seem to be any differences in brightness between the C2 and the C3.
Edit: This just came in from Vincent of HDTVTest, and there doesn't seem to be any differences in brightness between the C2 and the C3.
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Investor9872
Member
Here's Vincent full video from Las Vegas CES on the 2023 LG OLEDs.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Do you live in a glass house ?
mitchman
Gold Member
65" B9 and 48" CX "monitor" here. I think microLED would be needed to sway me away from OLEDs.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
They are comparing brightness from B2 (and not the current brightest G2). B2 is about 600-700 nits. So the new TVs will be 1100-1200 nits MAX (notice how they say upto 70%, so maybe only in very certain scenarios and tests would it be this bright).
Current G2s reach a little over 1000 in certain scenes, so it would be a decent jump, but nothing huge.
Edit: Confusing information. LG claiming 1800 peak on G3. Now that is substantial. See
Yerd
's post below.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You are not supposed to consume media critically when the sun is shining on the tv.
Roll the blinds or watch at night.
No tv is brighter than a fucking sun lol.
You are indoor. Your eyes accommodated to lower brightness. So it’s fine for a tv. But sun shining from outside is way brighter.
Tarnpanzer
Member
I guess in vivid-mode.
So more like 1,300-1,400 nits in a "normal" mode, which is still a big jump from the G2.
Yerd
Member
"FlatpanelsHD has seen a document that specified up to 2100 nits which could refer to Vivid mode."
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1672651962
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Fools idol
Banned
dont know why anyone would want these for playing console games on because they have a bad latency .. even the high end ones..