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Let me start this by saying I have no clue as to what sexuality I am. I am never going to call myself straight, but I do like women. But I don't know how I feel about Bi either, as I'm not fully attracted to men, but there are certain aspects that really appeal to me. I feel more comfortable around men (not that I don't around women, I currently have a girlfriend of a little over a year. And the first 2 people I told, the only two actually, are two very close girl friends), I feel more energetic and some other aspects.

Now the story about telling the 2 girls that know.
I'm in the theater department at my school and after a show, these girls and I just about enough of being social with everyone else in the cast and decided to just head off to our favorite little hole in the wall burger shop at around 11:30 at night. After just talking and joking around, we got into talking about some deeper topics.
Let me say I feel really safe when I'm with them, one girl is so similar to me that we pass as brother and sister in looks and behavior (which is important later) and the other is ironically a past girlfriend who I have slowly worked back to being close friends with.

Anyways, we just start driving around after dinner and start talking about deeper topics such as marriage and religion and such. I bring up sexuality and how lately I have be up late at night thinking about how I really don't k ow what I am attracted to and how I try to sort everything out. I eventually say how I know I still like women, but how there is just something about men that is confusing me. Now, the girl who is like me a lot says she has been feeling these exact same things as me and gives me her reasons and how its been one girl specifically who has made her feel these thoughts. While this may seem really minor, it made me feel so much better to know Its not just me.

It was the first time ever telling anyone about those feelings and it was my first time really saying it out loud. Over the last few days it has been really eating at me and I'm not coming here for answers, I just wanted another place to talk as I felt so much better after saying it to those girls.
 

daripad

Member
Let me start this by saying I have no clue as to what sexuality I am. I am never going to call myself straight, but I do like women. But I don't know how I feel about Bi either, as I'm not fully attracted to men, but there are certain aspects that really appeal to me. I feel more comfortable around men (not that I don't around women, I currently have a girlfriend of a little over a year. And the first 2 people, the only two actually, are two very close girl friends), I feel more energetic and some other aspects.

Now the story about telling the 2 girls that know.
I'm in the theater department at my school and after a show, these girls and I just about enough of being social with everyone else in the cast and decided to just head off to our favorite little hole in the wall burger shop at around 11:30 at night. After just talking and joking around, we got into talking about some deeper topics.
Let me say I feel really safe when I'm with them, one girl is so similar to me that we pass as brother and sister in looks and behavior (which is important later) and the other is ironically a past girlfriend who I have slowly worked back to being close friends with.

Anyways, we just start driving around after dinner and start talking about deeper topics such as marriage and religion and such. I bring up sexuality and how lately I have be up late at night thinking about how I really don't k ow what I am attracted to and how I try to sort everything out. I eventually say how I know I still like women, but how there is just something about men that is confusing me. Now, the girl who is like me a lot says she has been feeling these exact same things as me and gives me her reasons and how its been one girl specifically who has made her feel these thoughts. While this may seem really minor, it made me feel so much better to know Its not just me.

It was the first time ever telling anyone about those feelings and it was my first time really saying it out loud. Over the last few days it has been really eating at me and I'm not coming here for answers, I just wanted another place to talk as I felt so much better after saying it to those girls.

Perhaps you are an heterosexual guy who finds guys to be atractive but not in the same way as girls. Maybe a bit bi, but more inclined to the heterosexual side. That would be like a 1 or 2 in the Kinsey scale. It is not uncommon to have those feelings and there are many people out there that are as confused as you about this, but just let your sexuality ge fluid and do what you think you'd like to. We are here if you have more questions about this, and don't worry about your feelings towards men.
 

Sai-kun

Banned
Hey guys, you may remember a while back me and my gay pet snake had a strained relationship, well, after an awful lot of trust and understanding we've put that all behind us and now I love Snakey for who he is. Thank you for helping me come to the right decision Gaf, everything is going to be okay from here on out.



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Rayis

Member
Do some of you have plans for adopting or having kids?

YES, I want to have 2 kids, I want to adopt but if my partner wants to have a child of his own he can, I want a boy and a girl depending on what my partner's child comes out as I'll adopt boy or girl. I have my future planned out hahah
 
This question will likely come across as stereotypical and naive, but I'm genuinely curious. Do guys still go to bath houses? A friend/coworker of mine has been in a relationship for a decade plus, but he said that when he first moved to Chicago from Guatemala (mid-90s) that he generally avoided the bar scene and just met guys at bath houses in Boys Town.
 
Perhaps you are an heterosexual guy who finds guys to be atractive but not in the same way as girls. Maybe a bit bi, but more inclined to the heterosexual side. That would be like a 1 or 2 in the Kinsey scale. It is not uncommon to have those feelings and there are many people out there that are as confused as you about this, but just let your sexuality ge fluid and do what you think you'd like to. We are here if you have more questions about this, and don't worry about your feelings towards men.

Thanks, after looking up the Kinsey scale, I seem to feel like I am a 2, maybe eventually a 3 once I get more accustomed with these feelings. Its not that I was afraid of these feelings, just confused. Im highly supportive of gay rights and I have multiple Bi and Gay friends. To be fair I could have asked them about these feelings, but I feel a bit safer asking this way.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
This question will likely come across as stereotypical and naive, but I'm genuinely curious. Do guys still go to bath houses? A friend/coworker of mine has been in a relationship for a decade plus, but he said that when he first moved to Chicago from Guatemala (mid-90s) that he generally avoided the bar scene and just met guys at bath houses in Boys Town.

There are at least two popular gay bath houses in Seattle, and I believe there's a third specifically for women. They aren't only frequented by sad, lonely older men either, as I've worked with some young gays who say they enjoy going to them occasionally with friends.

I will never comprehend the appeal, myself. Well, maybe if Bette Midler did a revival show at the Continental...
 

Dany

Banned
You know, I've seen folks walking out of the bathhouse right here and I just instantly shudder. :x All I can think about is how they have to hose down the place with bleach every evening.
 

Trigger

Member
This question will likely come across as stereotypical and naive, but I'm genuinely curious. Do guys still go to bath houses? A friend/coworker of mine has been in a relationship for a decade plus, but he said that when he first moved to Chicago from Guatemala (mid-90s) that he generally avoided the bar scene and just met guys at bath houses in Boys Town.

Yeah, but they are mainly for exhibitionists IMO. I think most guys prefer privacy.
 

paully

Banned
where can I find the most filthy and taboo gay porn? I like experimenting with gay porn when I'm high, so excuse the weird question.

I just love watching straight looking dudes fuck like animals, and the usual sites aren't doing it for me atm.


PM me if it's bannable to post such links.
 
where can I find the most filthy and taboo gay porn? I like experimenting with gay porn when I'm high, so excuse the weird question.

I just love watching straight looking dudes fuck like animals, and the usual sites aren't doing it for me atm.


PM me if it's bannable to post such links.
Search for "peters twins & trevor yates."
 

paully

Banned
this might sound strange, but does anyone wanna have a kinky chat through PM? I'm a bit drunk, so I might regret posting this but whatever...take advantage of my offer, people ;)
 
This question will likely come across as stereotypical and naive, but I'm genuinely curious. Do guys still go to bath houses? A friend/coworker of mine has been in a relationship for a decade plus, but he said that when he first moved to Chicago from Guatemala (mid-90s) that he generally avoided the bar scene and just met guys at bath houses in Boys Town.

Yeah, I think they do. I've never been to one but I have friends who do.
 
where can I find the most filthy and taboo gay porn? I like experimenting with gay porn when I'm high, so excuse the weird question.

I just love watching straight looking dudes fuck like animals, and the usual sites aren't doing it for me atm.


PM me if it's bannable to post such links.

What would qualify as the most filthy and taboo gay porn? I need details!
 
Thanks, after looking up the Kinsey scale, I seem to feel like I am a 2, maybe eventually a 3 once I get more accustomed with these feelings. Its not that I was afraid of these feelings, just confused. Im highly supportive of gay rights and I have multiple Bi and Gay friends. To be fair I could have asked them about these feelings, but I feel a bit safer asking this way.

So many feels here man. Unfortunately I have no gay or bi friends. No one to really talk to about it.

Only ever had sex with women myself. I really want to try being intimate in some fashion with a guy though. It's hard with no "connections" I guess you could say since I don't really know any gay or bi guys. I got close once and got rejected in the end which kinda stung for a while. But lately I've been getting more into it again, maybe I don't know when to just quit :p
 

paully

Banned
Cybersex is boring as fuck, never understood the appeal.

It's pretty exciting for someone who is "mostly straigh/curious" and is rarely attracted/or fantasizes about men. I'm sure it would be boring and tame for someone who often has sex with men or fantasizes about them. Besides, I'm drunk. give me a break ;)
 

Lucario

Member
where can I find the most filthy and taboo gay porn? I like experimenting with gay porn when I'm high, so excuse the weird question.

I just love watching straight looking dudes fuck like animals, and the usual sites aren't doing it for me atm.


PM me if it's bannable to post such links.

Go find some gay furry porn. You know you wanna.

alternatively, google "dragons fucking cars."
 

paully

Banned
Go find some gay furry porn. You know you wanna.

alternatively, google "dragons fucking cars."


I'm only interested in videos of actual men fucking men like animals!! Not 4chan shit lol. I know you're joking though. I don't really need any more recommendations! I hope I did't de-rail this thread too much or violate any rules, but you guys/gals seem like a great community..perhaps one of the best on GAF.
 
Dear livejournal,

I'm at the end of my rope. We've been together for five years and married for almost two. Its like nothing I can do will make him happy anymore and all we do is fight constantly. My personality quirksb that he used to find cute now just aggrivate him. Its like I know how to swim but it seems pointless to try to fight the current. There is nobody else I would want to be with and I kind of saw us together for the rest of our lives. Fuck I just want to cry all the time now.

Last month I was looking for my phone so I picked up his and its opened up to fucking grindr and he's chatting with this old ugly guy.. and it keeps getting worse since then. I'm about to breakdown but I'm at work. Should have called out today. Fuck I'm on antidepressants but it seems impossible to even feel normal.
 
Just heard that Tron 3 is coming. Next year.
now I'm coming money for Disney

But the script writer is a guy who was on Prometheus? Wow. Um. Maybe not? Although it's not Lindelof, some other guy.
 
There are at least two popular gay bath houses in Seattle, and I believe there's a third specifically for women. They aren't only frequented by sad, lonely older men either, as I've worked with some young gays who say they enjoy going to them occasionally with friends.

I will never comprehend the appeal, myself. Well, maybe if Bette Midler did a revival show at the Continental...

Yeah, he's a fit, charming guy and that's part of the reason I was asking.

Yeah, but they are mainly for exhibitionists IMO. I think most guys prefer privacy.

Interesting, he's quite a private guy. He was actually in seminary school to be a Jesuit only a couple years before he moved to the US!

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Alcoori

Member
Dear livejournal,

I'm at the end of my rope. We've been together for five years and married for almost two. Its like nothing I can do will make him happy anymore and all we do is fight constantly. My personality quirksb that he used to find cute now just aggrivate him. Its like I know how to swim but it seems pointless to try to fight the current. There is nobody else I would want to be with and I kind of saw us together for the rest of our lives. Fuck I just want to cry all the time now.

Last month I was looking for my phone so I picked up his and its opened up to fucking grindr and he's chatting with this old ugly guy.. and it keeps getting worse since then. I'm about to breakdown but I'm at work. Should have called out today. Fuck I'm on antidepressants but it seems impossible to even feel normal.

I'm very sorry to hear that Bel. Of course you don't see yourself with anyone else, that's because you're still in this marriage.
Since the state of your relationship is causing you a lot of distress and is making you so upset, I think that maybe you two should have an honest and open conversation about the state of your marriage. Maybe you guys can work on your relationship by airing out all of the grievances. Or maybe you can't. Like you said, you can't keep going like this so you need to either decide to salvage it or, unfortunately, move on. Can I suggest you to go see a couple therapist/counselor? It might be good to have a neutral party when you talk about all of it so that it doesn't degenerate into yet another fight.

In any case, I am sorry that you're feeling so sad. I hope you can find peace of mind and resolve whatever issues you guys have.
 

daripad

Member
Dear livejournal,

I'm at the end of my rope. We've been together for five years and married for almost two. Its like nothing I can do will make him happy anymore and all we do is fight constantly. My personality quirksb that he used to find cute now just aggrivate him. Its like I know how to swim but it seems pointless to try to fight the current. There is nobody else I would want to be with and I kind of saw us together for the rest of our lives. Fuck I just want to cry all the time now.

Last month I was looking for my phone so I picked up his and its opened up to fucking grindr and he's chatting with this old ugly guy.. and it keeps getting worse since then. I'm about to breakdown but I'm at work. Should have called out today. Fuck I'm on antidepressants but it seems impossible to even feel normal.

I'm sorry to read what you are going through. It must be hard. It seems that you love him so much but he is not into the marriage as you. I hope everything can go better and I think having a serious conversation with him will help you. He must tell you how he feels about you and why he is letting this happen. He has to let you know so you can take a decision.

So many feels here man. Unfortunately I have no gay or bi friends. No one to really talk to about it.

Only ever had sex with women myself. I really want to try being intimate in some fashion with a guy though. It's hard with no "connections" I guess you could say since I don't really know any gay or bi guys. I got close once and got rejected in the end which kinda stung for a while. But lately I've been getting more into it again, maybe I don't know when to just quit :p

Oh oh, you are that guy from the post pics of yourself thread? Oh oh
 

Dany

Banned
Just heard that Tron 3 is coming. Next year.
now I'm coming money for Disney

But the script writer is a guy who was on Prometheus? Wow. Um. Maybe not? Although it's not Lindelof, some other guy.
Prometheus had problems that should not be placed on one person. :p
 
Oh oh, you are that guy from the post pics of yourself thread? Oh oh

lol indeed I am. I usually just lurk here sometimes but ever since someone made that "would you ever switch teams" or whatever thread that I responded to I've been spending more time in here.

I admit, I can't really relate to all the conversations that take place but it's nice just to look at some of the pics posted here too :p
 

BeesEight

Member
Thanks, after looking up the Kinsey scale, I seem to feel like I am a 2, maybe eventually a 3 once I get more accustomed with these feelings. Its not that I was afraid of these feelings, just confused. Im highly supportive of gay rights and I have multiple Bi and Gay friends. To be fair I could have asked them about these feelings, but I feel a bit safer asking this way.

So, tell us about this guy you're crushing on!

But seriously, sexuality is far more complicated than it seems. It's more common than people think for attractions to be fluid. I know when you first start to recognize and think about these feelings it can be hard, even nerve-wracking, to think about the labels and everything that's associated with them. On the one hand, they can be helpful to explain what you're feeling and find other people in a similar situation but at the end of the day they are just labels.

So, the long and short of it is don't worry about not feeling "straight" or "bi" or whatever. Just be who you are and the understanding will come later. I, personally, would encourage you to explore those feelings (in a safe manner of course) if only at the very least so you recognize them and aren't left later on with regret that you never got to act on them. I'm assuming, from those few details, that you're still in school. Which is also great as there's lots of resources available to you.

Also, talk to your friends. They'll be able to give you better advice since they know you better. At the very least, they can always provide support and personal experiences for you to measure against your own.

this might sound strange, but does anyone wanna have a kinky chat through PM? I'm a bit drunk, so I might regret posting this but whatever...take advantage of my offer, people ;)

Lie down, Paully. You're drunk.

Dear livejournal,

I'm at the end of my rope. We've been together for five years and married for almost two. Its like nothing I can do will make him happy anymore and all we do is fight constantly. My personality quirksb that he used to find cute now just aggrivate him. Its like I know how to swim but it seems pointless to try to fight the current. There is nobody else I would want to be with and I kind of saw us together for the rest of our lives. Fuck I just want to cry all the time now.

Last month I was looking for my phone so I picked up his and its opened up to fucking grindr and he's chatting with this old ugly guy.. and it keeps getting worse since then. I'm about to breakdown but I'm at work. Should have called out today. Fuck I'm on antidepressants but it seems impossible to even feel normal.

:(

I'm sorry to hear this Bel. I agree with Alcoori that you should probably consider having an open discussion. If things are really difficult, a marriage counselor is great but I'd first check to see if he's on the same page before going that route. I think it's important that you two try and re-establish those communication channels that sound like they've been closed for whatever reason.

Don't feel like you have to answer this, but did you start taking the antidepressants before or after things started to get really bad?
 

daripad

Member
lol indeed I am. I usually just lurk here sometimes but ever since someone made that "would you ever switch teams" or whatever thread that I responded to I've been spending more time in here.

I admit, I can't really relate to all the conversations that take place but it's nice just to look at some of the pics posted here too :p
Yep, every material here has been amazing, everyones seems to be handsome (except me lol but I'm not ugly either).

And having a straight crush is terrible, I see that guy everyday even if we aren't in the same classes, which is weird.
Maybe is a sign, I will end being with him lol
 
I'm sorry to hear this Bel. I agree with Alcoori that you should probably consider having an open discussion. If things are really difficult, a marriage counselor is great but I'd first check to see if he's on the same page before going that route. I think it's important that you two try and re-establish those communication channels that sound like they've been closed for whatever reason.

Don't feel like you have to answer this, but did you start taking the antidepressants before or after things started to get really bad?

I've been taking them forever it seems like... I take a lot of pills :x

He seems normal to me now but we had a huge fight this morning.. and yesterday.. I'm going to discuss it with him but at the moment its good that we're not fighting.
 
Dude, explain. Did all three of you showered together?

I could be wrong but I think he's referring to this thread lol.

edit: Okay, that's strange. My pc clock says it's 3:26 when I posted but Gaf is saying it was 3:29. Either my clock is off or gaf is 3 minutes ahead.
 

FYC

Banned
That's an old thread, hehehehe,what an ass, glad he's banned honestly, don't let it get to you, people can be horrible and all but just know that you're not doing anything bad by being yourself and they're the ones who're wrong. I know this won't help much but everyone hates others for trivial things, you can always take solace in the fact that there are people who will like you for who you are.

Thank you, this post means a lot.
 

Magnus

Member
Thanks everyone :)

4 months is pretty fast, but that's cool! I'm happy for you! [:
It really is, I know. Blows my mind that I had no idea who he was half a year ago.

It's really nice to have someone in my corner, backing me up, supporting me, that's all my own. Never experienced this before. Hope everyone gets the chance to.

You guys'd ream me out if I told you how I told him... lol
 

Mr. F

Banned
Thanks everyone :)

It really is, I know. Blows my mind that I had no idea who he was half a year ago.

It's really nice to have someone in my corner, backing me up, supporting me, that's all my own. Never experienced this before. Hope everyone gets the chance to.

You guys'd ream me out if I told you how I told him... lol

Has to be someday...

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...right?

Also my bet's on text message.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Dear livejournal,

Can I suggest you to go see a couple therapist/counselor? It might be good to have a neutral party when you talk about all of it so that it doesn't degenerate into yet another fight.

I'm going to echo Alcoori's advice and recommend that you see a relationship/marriage counselor/therapist. Depending on your city, there might even be a gay specific one! Definitely have a long talk with him - preferably when you're not fighting - and see if he's open and willing to go with you. You guys can move past this!
 

neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
Thanks everyone :)

It really is, I know. Blows my mind that I had no idea who he was half a year ago.

It's really nice to have someone in my corner, backing me up, supporting me, that's all my own. Never experienced this before. Hope everyone gets the chance to.

You guys'd ream me out if I told you how I told him... lol

Certainly not me.
 
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