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LGBThread |OT4| We're (still) Here! We're (still) Queer!

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lol
If you realized this in your 20s you would have been a total tuck chaser.
"They look like glamorous show girls. So it's ok, right?"
I don't believe that guys who like drag queens/crossdressers are automatically Bi or Gay btw. Especially if they mostly date cis/trans women.
In regards to your spoilered message.

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I am attracted to him
I am also attracted to cis-women, and trans-women, I also wouldn't be against being in a relationship with a trans-man or someone who is gender queer or bi gendered or any non traditional gender identity. So call me bi or pan or what ever, it's just that my main attraction is to those with outwardly female appearance and male genitals while I am also not really attracted to super masculinity. Pretty much anything from girly girl to regular guy I can be attracted to. But also for me an attraction goes beyond just wanting to bone. Obviously with porn I just look for what turns me on, but for a relationship with someone else I look for much more than just "that gets my dick hard."
 

daripad

Member
I remembered knowing that I was gay and being super attracted to boys but social conditioning always makes you hide it, I was totally in denial, first I tried to ignore it then I said I was going to fool around with boys until I found a woman to marry and then it wasn't until 2010 when I just said, "Fuck it, I'm gay, I've always been gay, and I will spend the rest of my life with another guy" it was due to me hanging with a community of people who were super open and supportive that I learned to accept myself, it is a liberating experience.

Now I just need to come out to family *sobs*

You were in a simlar situaion where I find myself right now, though I have found detractors of what I am. I hope we both find support in our families.
though my situation is much more complicated

Edit: Link for Rayis voice?
 

scarlet

Member
Oh ok, hahahahaha, thanks ;) I do have quite a deep voice, It's not really that attractive once you get to hear it more though, I kinda wish it was higher sometimes, I actually find higher voices than mine more attractive, Like I find Ryan Gosling's voice irresistible

Wrong wrong wrong wrong

Ryan's voice isn't high lol. I have a high voice, but not as high as Adam Levine haha.

People call me ma'am a lot while I'm talking with them on phone T.T

Can we trade?
 

Rayis

Member
Wrong wrong wrong wrong

Ryan's voice isn't high lol. I have a high voice, but not as high as Adam Levine haha.

People call me ma'am a lot while I'm talking with them on phone T.T

Can we trade?

Hehehheehehe, Well, at least I can call a part of myself attractive then =D

yeah, Ryan's voice isn't what I'd call high but it's higher than mine, It's more the timbre of his voice that sounds really nice to me. *has a voice fetish*

Yes we can totally trade, I'd love fooling people on the phone

@daripad It'd be right here
 

scarlet

Member
You were in a simlar situaion where I find myself right now, though I have found detractors of what I am. I hope we both find support in our families.
though my situation is much more complicated

Edit: Link for Rayis voice?

Hehehheehehe, Well, at least I can call a part of myself attractive then =D

yeah, Ryan's voice isn't what I'd call high but it's higher than mine, It's more the timbre of his voice that sounds really nice to me. *has a voice fetish*

Yes we can totally trade, I'd love fooling people on the phone

@daripad It'd be right here

The right link. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=120339187&postcount=20

Seriously tho, that deep voice is a major turn on and luckily I always dated people with deep voices
 
I remembered knowing that I was gay and being super attracted to boys but social conditioning always makes you hide it, I was totally in denial, first I tried to ignore it then I said I was going to fool around with boys until I found a woman to marry and then it wasn't until 2010 when I just said, "Fuck it, I'm gay, I've always been gay, and I will spend the rest of my life with another guy" it was due to me hanging with a community of people who were super open and supportive that I learned to accept myself, it is a liberating experience.

Now I just need to come out to family *sobs*
I got super lucky on that front. Like I said, my dad is definitely kinda homophobic. But I also knew that he was an incredible person who was always encouraging me and others to speak our minds and be honest, since even if he doesn't agree with what a person has to say, he's always been extremely appreciative of people who can be honest to to him and not sugarcoat anything, no matter how unpleasant it might be (which is also something that has rubbed off on to me), compared to those who would lie to him to just to try and tell him what he wants to hear, so I wasn't exactly too worried about what would happen when I came out a few months ago. And I was right about that--he was definitely taken incredibly by it, and was confused about some things due to his prejudices/hangups leading to misunderstandings about what it means to be gay or bi to begin with, but mostly, he was incredibly supportive and it really couldn't have gone any better (also came out to my mom at the same time, but wasn't expecting any problems at all there and she was also great). God, I love my folks--they're incredible and I know I'm definitely so fucking lucky to have them. <3

I can only hope you manage to have even half the same luck that I did and that it doesn't end up being anywhere near as bad as you think! *Hugs* ^_^
 

Monocle

Member
How/when did you know you were gay/bi?
I was attracted to guys when I was around 4. I mean, looking back there was no question. I felt a definite nonsexual pull toward some men. (A lot like the platonic attraction I feel toward certain women now, oddly enough.) The sexual component developed later. When I hit puberty, I guess. I don't remember when. No later than 13 years old I think.

But yeah, it would have been clear as day that I was a little gay boy if I'd known anything at all about gay people. If I'd just had some idea that there were regular people living regular lives, who happened to be homosexual, it would have saved me a lot of stress and uncertainty. Unfortunately, I didn't learn what sexual orientation was until I had internalized a lot of shame from the people around me. My family acted like there were two categories of people, normal people (heterosexuals), and those other people who didn't really count, those others who we barely discussed. When I brought up my attraction to boys with my family, I got a lot of "maybe it's just a phase" type of comments and no real encouragement to socialize and figure things out naturally. No one was directly negative or cruel, but the message I got from them, that basically "it will work itself out eventually and then you'll get a girlfriend," put my sexual development on pause for years. I was a withdrawn person anyway, so I wasn't able to feel comfortable about being gay until I hit my early 20s. I came out when I couldn't stand the "oh, he's just a late bloomer" bullshit anymore, and to their credit, my closest family members were as accepting as I could have hoped, considering their unawareness of sexual diversity and what it means to be gay.

It still would've been nice to be asked "So when are you going to find a boyfriend?" I really could have used a gentle nudge or two to get on with my gay life. There's a pretty big difference between feeling tolerated and feeling accepted. Oh well, I can't really complain because so many thousands of LGBT people have hellish relationships with their families.
 

Grizzo

Member
How/when did you know you were gay/bi?

I think I found out I was gay when I touched myself for the first time in my life, shortly after watching a Buffy episode. I was 10, and it was all because of this guy:

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yeah I think Angel/David Boreanaz was my very first celebrity crush.
 

Vashetti

Banned
I remember coming out to my mum and she said "I always knew", then she told my dad and he said "so? He's still my son."

Thank fuck for lovely parents.
 

Monocle

Member
I think I found out I was gay when I touched myself for the first time in my life, shortly after watching a Buffy episode. I was 10, and it was all because of this guy:

angel4.jpg


yeah I think Angel/David Boreanaz was my very first celebrity crush.
Lol, I remember watching Buffy and thinking "I wish he was hotter." I knew he was supposed to be super attractive, and a lot of other people were totally into him, but his body kind of turned me off. Sorry bout it, I like the athletic boys.

(Why yes, I am a card carrying member of the Gay Men with Stupidly High Standards Commission, why do you ask?)

I remember coming out to my mum and she said "I always knew", then she told my dad and he said "so? He's still my son."

Thank fuck for lovely parents.
;_; That's sweet.
 

Grizzo

Member
I'm so sorry

Lol, I remember watching Buffy and thinking "I wish he was hotter." I knew he was supposed to be super attractive, and a lot of other people were totally into him, but his body kind of turned me off. Sorry bout it, I like the athletic boys.


;_; That's sweet.

haha me too, I grew out of it pretty quickly to be honest. It's just that I think this was the first time I ever felt any type of attraction for a man. He doesn't really make me feel anything nowadays.

Buffy is way hotter =P.

That I agree with, Sarah Michelle Gellar was really hot back then

And this...

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...was the first time I ever learned about lesbians.
that was so hot too

(Why yes, I am a card carrying member of the Gay Men with Stupidly High Standards Commission, why do you ask?)

that's fine by me, I can be quite picky sometimes too!
 

Vashetti

Banned
People in here are too nice.

Why didn't I come here sooner? To be fair I didn't know this thread existed until a few days ago.

I'll never understand how gamers can be so cruel to a minority when so many are already 'down' on us as a minority (gamers).
 
I remember coming out to my mum and she said "I always knew", then she told my dad and he said "so? He's still my son."

Thank fuck for lovely parents.

My mom seems to accept my sexuality, but she still twitches a bit when I mention that another guy is cute. She also always ask what I would do if a girl suddenly came on to me. lol
It's a bit annoying, but I often just laugh her off.
I think she's coming to grips with my bisexuality though.

I really don't know how my dad might have reacted. He seemed homophobic and transphobic (His openly gay nephew had died of aids before I was born. I think that might have put him over "the edge") However, he really loved me. He'd generally buy me anything I needed or wanted and he was always there for me when I needed him. I really looked up to him, and I don't think I could handle being estranged from him if he were still alive today. I would hope that he'd love me no matter what, but I don't know if that's realistic.
 
That I agree with, Sarah Michelle Gellar was really hot back then

And this...

post-20413-Sarah-michelle-gellar-kissing-Iot2.gif


...was the first time I ever learned about lesbians.
that was so hot too



that's fine by me, I can be quite picky sometimes too!

That was the first lesbian kiss I saw, and I loved it!

I'm pretty picky as well lol.
 
Man, All you people with your nice and 100% accepting parents. Must be nice. :(

To clarify, I've told my mom before and every time she gets sad wanting grandkids. Yes, I know adoption and surrogacy is an option but she wants natural grandkids. I guess because I'm an only child. I guess she also thinks that me marry another man to be offputting. To be fair, She's a great person otherwise and I love her to death. She's also always done so much for me but I guess the fact that she's OK with other gay people but not 100% with me being bi hurts me to my core sometimes.
I haven't told my dad outright but I already know what his reaction would be so....

Be thankful, those who have accepting parents. I'd just want for someone I could talk about the other important aspect of my life without having to hide it away. :(
 
*Lesbian Buffy kiss*

...was the first time I ever learned about lesbians.
that was so hot too

Huh...
That raises an interesting question. When and how did some of you guys first "learn" about the different parts of the LGBT spectrum?

I always knew about gay men as a child. Though, I mostly pictured them in a stereotypical fashion thanks to my family, movies, and television. I didn't think that you could be "masculine" and gay, but they were definitely the first part of the spectrum I knew about.

Lesbians were a complete mystery to me until the 7th grade. I think I learned what they were from Ranma 1/2 or some other dumb manga. They were never really as visible as gay men on TV so I didn't learn about the stereotypes until I was in high school. I don't remember being incredibly attracted to gay female relations, but it was intriguing in a sense.

I think I learned what transwomen were from a lifetime movie that depicted the life of Gwen Araujo (R.I.P) when I was in middle school. Before that my idea of a transgirl was basically a crossdresser or an EXTREMELY gay man (1000 pardons to the transgirls in the thread)
I kind of thought that I might be trans (I didn't know about that word though) because I liked girl stuff, but I never really had a strong desire to become a female.
I didn't know what a transman was until I was in my senior year of high school. I always loved girly stuff so I didn't think anyone would want to willingly become a boy.

The bisexual umbrella was a completely and utter mystery to me until I started to really discover my own sexuality. lol
We'ere so underrepresented that it's not even funny, and if we are represented it's just a phase (Experimental college girl)
 
They animated one pokemon right:
I was just thinking about who exactly is animating this season? Is it just the pokemon company? Seems so much better than what i've seen from the episodes i saw from the black and white season.

How/when did you know you were gay/bi?
Hmm Dont know what age, but i certainly realized that i was different when i was very young. I thought maybe i liked certain features or things of people either women or men, but tried to deny it, then during high school i just came to terms with my sexuality within myself.
Some of you are posting who made you realize that was gay, cant think of anything in particular, but when i was young in middle school, i always found ways to make guys take off or lift up their shirts lol.
 
Huh...
That raises an interesting question. When and how did some of you guys first "learn" about the different parts of the LGBT spectrum?

I always knew about gay men as a child. Though, I mostly pictured them in a stereotypical fashion thanks to my family, movies, and television. I didn't think that you could be "masculine" and gay, but they were definitely the first part of the spectrum I knew about.

Lesbians were a complete mystery to me until the 7th grade. I think I learned what they were from Ranma 1/2 or some other dumb manga. They were never really as visible as gay men on TV so I didn't learn about the stereotypes until I was in high school. I don't remember being incredibly attracted to gay female relations, but it was intriguing in a sense.

I think I learned what transwomen were from a lifetime movie that depicted the life of Gwen Araujo (R.I.P) when I was in middle school. Before that my idea of a transgirl was basically a crossdresser or an EXTREMELY gay man (1000 pardons to the transgirls in the thread)
I kind of thought that I might be trans (I didn't know about that word though) because I liked girl stuff, but I never really had a strong desire to become a female.
I didn't know what a transman was until I was in my senior year of high school. I always loved girly stuff so I didn't think anyone would want to willingly become a boy.

The bisexual umbrella was a completely and utter mystery to me until I started to really discover my own sexuality. lol
We'ere so underrepresented that it's not even funny, and if we are represented it's just a phase (Experimental college girl)

First time I learnt about homosexuality was either my elementary teacher reading us a book about a man coming out or the gay couple on the soap my mum was watching. Then I later learnt about bi and tanssexuality in high school.
 

HylianTom

Banned
When I was 13, I got caught messing-around with a friend from down the street. He and I had been playing around for about half a year at that point. We had our hands down each others' pants, and his mom walked in on us. She walked me home and informed my parents of what she'd found.

My family was a pretty traditional Catholic family, as was my friend's, but his mom was a psychology RN, so she was pretty well-informed, considering that it was 1990 in the deep South. Mom and Dad were visibly upset, and sent me to my bedroom before they continued talking to my friend's mom. I eavesdropped from my bedroom door, hearing her tell them that experimentation was normal, and that it might not have meant anything regarding my (or her son's) eventual orientation.

After my friend's mom left, Mom came into my bedroom, calmer, but still stone-faced. I still remember her exact words:
"your father never wants to hear anything like this about you ever again."
She then exited the room, telling me nothing about how she personally felt, asking me nothing about my thoughts. That was the last that was spoken of the incident.

I never hung-out with that friend ever again. I withdrew to myself a lot, actually. I made a decision to not date any girls, as I already knew I was gay (I'd already gotten past the "'maybe-I-can-pray-it-away" phase), and I didn't want to send them any mixed signals or give them any false hope. There were many moments in high school where I wondered if I'd ever be able to come out to them, or if they'd ever accept me. Hell, those question marks hung over me well into college.

I don't know what changed, but something did while I was away at college. Mom would ask me if I was watching Will and Grace. Or if I had seen the Ellen coming out episode. She asked me on the phone if I'd read about Matthew Shepard (I was at college in rural Mississippi, so I'm guessing that she was worried). But she'd always find a way to bring it up.

I didn't come out explicitly at first about my relationship with HylianGreg. I just always ended-up bringing him home. And we'd be honest about our boring lives. Saturday night in college watching an Antiques Roadshow marathon! Going to Greg's sister's wedding. His step-dad's funeral. Us taking the nieces & nephews to the zoo. My bet was correct: Mom & Dad just figured it out and accepted it along the way, no drama.

When we moved back to New Orleans from Texas, it got just downright boring. Normal. Dad had two new fishing buddies, and Mom had us to take her to the theatre. My sister had a wedding, and Greg was in the family photos. And we'd all be able to go to football games together (man oh man was Mom relieved that Greg loves football. I think not liking football would've been a bigger issue than the gay thing!). After worrying myself sick over this through pretty much all of high school and into college, Dad especially was surpising me. He'd start asking, "where's your other half?" or "where's your partner?" or (about our dog) "where's my big guy?" It was suddenly no big deal, and now he'd get disappointed if I went home without Greg.

Dad had surgery recently, and I had to babysit him at home. In his drugged/teary state, he told me that he was glad that he'd "won" another good son, and that he's glad that I'm settled and that we can take care of each other. Made me cry (hell, I'm teary-eyed now).

I guess the main takeaway is that even if it seems probable that Mom and Dad will react harshly, it often doesn't stay like that. People change and grow a lot over time, so don't lose hope.
 

Kater

Banned
How/when did you know you were gay/bi?

I fooled around a lot with both boys and girls. I did not enjoy my time with the girls though, their physical appearance, their voices and the character of girls was never really my thing. Meanwhile with boys it clicked immediately. First sexual stuff that I tried was when I was around 6 or 7 (playing Doctor) with some classmate. I think I realized that I was gay when I was 16. I didn't accept myself as homosexual until maybe 2010 and it's only now that I am okay talking about my homosexual life with people I know.

That's a really nice story, HylianTom.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
aw, real good story hyliantom
Wait only last year what?
I don't know how you guys find ppl to experiment at such a young age, it's mindblogging.
Yeah, I guess it has a lot to do with how sociable you were as a kid because, while I was never really shy at 6, I don't think I would've "experimented" with anyone.
 

Kater

Banned
I don't know how you guys find ppl to experiment at such a young age, it's mindblogging.

It kind of just happened when we (me and that classmate) reenacted fighting scenes from Dragon Ball. We were kids so touching was never an issue, not like for adults anyway. One time we kinda stopped fighting and I got the idea to heal my buddy, and so it came to the doctor play. From then on I had sexual experiences. Guess I'm an early bloomer... >_>
 

RM8

Member
This was a really great read :) Your parents sound awesome.

I guess I'm weird in the sense that after coming out to my mother, for some reason I hated whenever she wanted to mention anything about it. She once told me while watching TV "that guy is handsome, isn't he?", and I found that situation so incredibly awkward and weird despite being completely harmless... I didn't say anything, but I guess my face did the job because she pretty much never talks about it ever since :p I honestly like it like that, I enjoy knowing I'm supported but I'd rather keep it to myself.
 

Kater

Banned
This was a really great read :) Your parents sound awesome.

I guess I'm weird in the sense that after coming out to my mother, for some reason I hated whenever she wanted to mention anything about it. She once told me while watching TV "that guy is handsome, isn't he?", and I found that situation so incredibly awkward and weird despite being completely harmless... I didn't say anything, but I guess my face did the job because she pretty much never talks about it ever since :p I honestly like it like that, I enjoy knowing I'm supported but I'd rather keep it to myself.

Haha, my mother does similar stuff. On a related not, she just recently decided to buy a ticket for a Conchita concert and said that she already has one for me as well. The concert is already on monday. Not that I'm not excited about the concert but she's overdoing it. :p
 

HylianTom

Banned
This was a really great read :) Your parents sound awesome.

I guess I'm weird in the sense that after coming out to my mother, for some reason I hated whenever she wanted to mention anything about it. She once told me while watching TV "that guy is handsome, isn't he?", and I found that situation so incredibly awkward and weird despite being completely harmless... I didn't say anything, but I guess my face did the job because she pretty much never talks about it ever since :p I honestly like it like that, I enjoy knowing I'm supported but I'd rather keep it to myself.

I still to this day feel a little bit weird talking about guys to Mom, although now she's perfectly happy to pull-up her favorite recent google image searches on the ipad and show me her flavor of the month.

(Last month was David Gandy - she's ga-ga for the man. During football season, it was Eric Decker..)
 

lexi

Banned
Before that my idea of a transgirl was basically a crossdresser or an EXTREMELY gay man (1000 pardons to the transgirls in the thread)

I think this is a commonly held belief, even amongst the LGBT community.

My mum, who was super supportive from the beginning and is now completely normal and fine in every way, would probably be freaked out if I were to come out as a lesbian.
 
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