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Razmos

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I choke on ocean saltwater. Every. Time. I go. So lol yea enjoy that awkwardness of an image. (Still love boogie boarding way too much)
Eurgh, I only went swimming in the ocean once. Choking on that is just pure nastiness.
I kinda suck at swimming though, I pretty much swallow the whole pool because I can't breathe out of my nose very well haha
 

Dany

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You guys have a cat? Has this cat been shown here before? If not, can I see said cat?

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Razmos

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I certainly didn't expect to see erect penises on GAF today. That thread is alright :3

I would have loved to have found a big box of gay porn videos as a kid
 
On the subject of OkCupid, I've been slowly building up my profile. I've messaged a couple of people, one who's answered back to say more than one message and we've been having a very casual conversation. There is definitely a very different dynamic in choosing who to message on here versus somewhere like Grindr. It definitely seems like I'm going to have to do more of the messaging myself forces waiting for people to ask me questions though.
 

Kevyt

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Straight people have privilege, you have to be blind to not notice that. Not in your little bubble in your community but overall as a global concept.

Okay, and no one is denying that?

Yet gay culture does exist?

I'm obviously not saying all straight people are like that, that would be a stupid thing to say. But you can't say that stuff like that doesn't exist in straight culture, because it absolutely does, and is very prevalent outside of your circle of friends.

Hence, straight people are gross. It's a hyperbolic statement, same as Sai-Kun's was. It was in jest and you are taking it far too seriously.
We quite frequently rib on gay culture here too, and that's okay because we belong to that group? It's only offensive when we say stuff about straight people? that's ridiculous.


Exactly, it was a joke in the first place. It's no different than shaking your head and saying "Pfft, straight people"

I'm now even sure if there's such thing as gay culture. I would make the case that there isn't really one.

Look I also think it's a joke, but it's a hostile one. Hence my reaction. Also, all of it's meaning is lost in text. I don't know in what tone Sai kun wrote it. It's impossible to tell. I just want this place to be a safe space for everyone, whatever that means.

But please, if you all think it's okay, then carry on. I won't say anything next time. I won't call out anyone. Everything is fine as long as it is a joke, right?
 

Alrus

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The weird cognitive dissonance is this thread, all that's missing is somebody mentioning Culture of Offense or something.
 
The weird cognitive dissonance is this thread, all that's missing is somebody mentioning Culture of Offense or something.

Just throw in a few tablespoons of non-ironic mentions of "outrage culture" and some subsequent outrage over outrage culture and we have ourselves a discussion!
 
Yet flip it so it was a joke against gay people and you'd be up in arms about it. But, hey, promoting negativity within the community is cool, right?

Isn't this basically the same argument as "how come THEY can say the N-word but I can't because I'm white? That's the real racism!"

it very much is what

When people are dealing with a minority group they psychologically do build up a mental representation of that entire group based on a single individual or small subset of personal anecdotes.
 

Vitanimus

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there is absolutely a gay culture. stonewall riots, drag scene, HIV crisis... these are all things that are uniquely part of our culture as LGBT individuals. to deny otherwise sounds immensely ignorant.
 

Kevyt

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there is absolutely a gay culture. stonewall riots, drag scene, HIV crisis... these are all things that are uniquely part of our culture as LGBT individuals. to deny otherwise sounds immensely ignorant.

Perhaps, but it is more ignorant to insult other communities like the furry community.
 
there is absolutely a gay culture. stonewall riots, drag scene, HIV crisis... these are all things that are uniquely part of our culture as LGBT individuals. to deny otherwise sounds immensely ignorant.

I'd say that stuff is kind of really far in the past, and I don't think much of it carries on today. Except perhaps drag culture but I don't really think many gays still gravitate towards that, and not everyone in drag is gay.

Perhaps, but it is more ignorant to insult other communities like the furry community.

The furry community is large, but I don't see them as any different than say... a "we are sexually interested in Thomas The Tank Engine" community. It is very very strange. I'm openly going to admit that I don't understand being a furry, and I don't believe that it is anything at all like being trans, or gay.
 

RM8

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there is absolutely a gay culture. stonewall riots, drag scene, HIV crisis... these are all things that are uniquely part of our culture as LGBT individuals. to deny otherwise sounds immensely ignorant.
That's pretty America-centric, though. You're not immensely ignorant by virtue of that culture being hardly a thing in your country.
 

Vitanimus

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really? for people in their 40's, they've experienced a lot of those mentioned or at the very least their side affects. things clearly have improved thanks to a lot of the efforts of people half a century ago.
 
really? for people in their 40's, they've experienced a lot of those mentioned or at the very least their side affects. things clearly have improved thanks to a lot of the efforts of people half a century ago.

Absolutely, as a gay 20 year old I owe a lot of social progress to older gay dudes participating in stuff like the Stonewall Riots. It is at least a dozen times easier to be gay in America now than it was in the past, thanks to the sacrifices and efforts of those who fought before I was even born. But that older gay culture is somewhat gone. It is a relic of the past. So while there was a very easily defined gay culture, it is possible that it has faded enough where there's no longer a very easily distinct and separate gay culture.
 
The furry community is large, but I don't see them as any different than say... a "we are sexually interested in Thomas The Tank Engine" community. It is very very strange. I'm openly going to admit that I don't understand being a furry, and I don't believe that it is anything at all like being trans, or gay.
"The Little Engine That Fucked"

I'll see myself out.
 
"The Little Engine That Fucked"

I'll see myself out.

lol.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't cut ties with a dude for being a furry. I've nothing against them, I just find it an odd thing that I can't really wrap my head around personally. But then again I find a lot of sexual kinks pretty odd. Like m.preg stuff.
 

Razmos

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I "get" furry as a fetish/kink, makes about as much sense as leather and stuff.
What I don't get is when it becomes a lifestyle and something they do in their everyday lives, I think that's a bit strange.

(especially when they try and compare it to something intrinsic, like sexuality)
 

Kevyt

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"The Little Engine That Fucked"

I'll see myself out.

Hey ab! Do you understand my frustration?

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I "get" furry as a fetish/kink, makes about as much sense as leather and stuff.
What I don't get is when it becomes a lifestyle and something they do in their everyday lives, I think that's a bit strange.

(especially when they try and compare it to something intrinsic, like sexuality)
 

KmA

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Are gays and poor republicans the only disenfranchised groups actively campaigning for their oppressors?

I'm getting this on a T-shirt.

Honestly, white gays just don't get it (I am absolutely bringing race into this, making you uncomfortable? Good).

Let me give you an analogy. A lot of musical elitists will say something like "I hate Nickelback. Nickelback fucking sucks." Cool. Everyone has their opinions right? We're allowed to think things, even incorrect things like "Nickelback is great," or "Madonna should release another album." But the thing is, the people saying this aren't criticizing Nickelback solely, they are criticizing the industry that created him and the fans that made him popular. So the disdain they have isn't some one-dimensional, "I hate this guy" jerk fest, it's a greater systematic disdain for the industry that produces this type of music.

In the same way, me a minority of color saying something like "White people suck absolute ass," isn't me expressing my hatred for white people. White people are all around me, and are all as multi-faceted or one-dimensional as everyone else. Of course I don't hate ALL of them. But I hate the system that privileges, benefits, and encourages systems of whiteness. All white people benefit from that while I, a person of color, do not. So me shouting my annoyance at white people into the void is shorthand for me complaining about my oppression.

A gay person complaining about straight people is shorthand for complaining about oppression. There are certain power dynamics at play that systematically lessen the value of a gay person, so them calling "straight people gross" will not cause the same amount of hatred than a straight person saying "gay people are gross." One is complaining about oppression, the other is contributing to debilitating stereotypes that further oppress people.

But for some reason, white people cannot for the life of them intersect these ideas and come to the rescue of the oppressive systems every time. I'm so sick of explaining this to people you don't even know. Lmao people will always come to the defense of white individuals and straight people like no other.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
It's like any subculture. There's a feeling of "we're all in this together" that people find comforting, enough that they would prefer to submerge themselves in it.

It's not like letters-culture in that membership in letters is, in some ways, unavoidable, but it is like letters-culture in that there exists, in the world, a social group that understands you, somewhere you can feel you belong, somewhere you can engage in your lifestyle openly without judgement (or, at least, less judgement than would be found in mainstream culture).
 
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