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[Vazra]

People are cunts.
I feel like I'm one of the only people who never does shit like that. I always respond, and respond quickly if I've seen it. Am I just being too nice?

I guess it depends on how close said friends are.

There have been days when I felt so shitty that I just couldn't muster up the effort to invite anyone else in to my vortex of negativity. Even people who generally feel comfortable lending their ear.

I doubt it's malicious, Bayo. Everyone has their own reasons for what they do, and purposely hurting you is likely not on the list.

Let me tackle 2 in one here.

I know but when I tend to be the one they come to vent and tell me all their complains I kinda expect them to give me a decent treatment back even if the decency of "I cant right now" or a simple "Im busy" message which is not too much to ask. When 5 different friends including one that has started hitting on me recently it just feels really bizarre like if I had done something wrong without noticing. Im fine but I feel a bit weirded out by how today my attempt at interactions have been.

I've tried to get better and better about at least acknowledging that I got someone's message, even if I just have to say I'll give them an answer later in the day.

A simple "Im busy ttyl" is enough tbh. You cant expect people to be available all the time but the courtesy of letting people know you cant chat or dont feel like chatting shouldnt be that hard.

 

[Kevyt]

Perhaps I'm late on this, since I just saw it on the Young Turks youtube page: It's about a Chinese man who won a lawsuit against a gay conversation therapy in China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2f4AfwnPlo

He was pretty much tortured, and it's a huge win for gay rights advocates in China. Not to mention that China is a very much conservative country (to some degree) and conversion therapies in China can pretty much operate as they wish, so this is a huge thing.

Kind of puts things into perspective. There are gay conversation clinics in the US too. There's still a long way to go.

 

[Crayons]

Let me tackle 2 in one here.

I know but when I tend to be the one they come to vent and tell me all their complains I kinda expect them to give me a decent treatment back even if the decency of "I cant right now" or a simple "Im busy" message which is not too much to ask. When 5 different friends including one that has started hitting on me recently it just feels really bizarre like if I had done something wrong without noticing. Im fine but I feel a bit weirded out by how today my attempt at interactions have been.


A simple "Im busy ttyl" is enough tbh. You cant expect people to be available all the time but the courtesy of letting people know you cant chat or dont feel like chatting shouldnt be that hard.

I feel the same way dude.
Your friends sound like cunts if you listen to all their problems and they don't listen to yours.

 

[Kinsei]

Perhaps I'm late on this, since I just saw it on the Young Turks youtube page: It's about a Chinese man who won a lawsuit against a gay conversation therapy in China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2f4AfwnPlo

He was pretty much tortured, and it's a huge win for gay rights advocates in China. Not to mention that China is a very much conservative country (to some degree) and conversion therapies in China can pretty much operate as they wish, so this is a huge thing.

Kind of puts things into perspective. There are gay conversation clinics in the US too. There's still a long way to go.

Is there any country that has outlawed conversion therapy? We even have them here in Canada. Ontario recently outlawed them so hopefully it extends to the rest of the country soon.

 

[Vazra]

I feel the same way dude.
Your friends sound like cunts if you listen to all their problems and they don't listen to yours.

They are usually nice which is why it feels weird and out of character from them. Also the one hitting on me lost lots of points with that lol.

 

[Razmos]

I can only hope you take the same stance with celebrity photos or photos of random hotties you find on tumblr.

Do you mean the ones who put up these pictures with the purpose of getting ogled at?

Get fucked for trying to make an issue out of nothing, there is a very clear difference here and I'm not being shamed into not posting stuff like that by someone who can't see that difference. I was trying to make sure someone ON THIS FORUM wasn't going to feel uncomfortable with people discussing them here. I don't see how posting pics of models/celebrities in photo shoots or guys who post pics on the internet with the sole intent to be looked at is comparable to that at all.

Seriously what were you trying to do with this post other than cause an argument?

 

[RM8]

I agree. People in that thread post their pics with a very specific purpose, and while they likely appreciate a compliment, taking it out of that thread seems wrong.

 

[Leona Lewis]

Do you mean the ones who put up these pictures with the purpose of getting ogled at?

Get fucked for trying to make an issue out of nothing, there is a very clear difference here and I'm not being shamed into not posting stuff like that by someone who can't see that difference. I was trying to make sure someone ON THIS FORUM wasn't going to feel uncomfortable with people discussing them here. I don't see how posting pics of models/celebrities in photo shoots or guys who post pics on the internet with the sole intent to be looked at is comparable to that at all.

Seriously what were you trying to do with this post other than cause an argument?

Don't take his bait, man.

 

[DOWN]

Don't take his bait, man.

 

[Leona Lewis]

The tail gently flopping down at the end is just...the best XD

 

[hateradio]

Why is it so hard to get a lot of detail in such a small space.


Avatar update.

 

[DOWN]

I'm into all this rainbow. Just amped mine up a bit too.

 

[GCX]

I've had my rainbow avatar in place for like 6 years. It has finally fulfilled its destiny.

 

[Deleted member 465307]

Story time
A couple years ago, while on Tinder, I encountered a guy I went to high school with who was really into the partying scene and had a semi-poor reputation among my friends, yet was always very nice to me. I had no idea he was interested in guys, and I didn't swipe right because in case of matching, I had no idea what I would say to him. At the time, I was freaking out a little because of the surprise. His Facebook didn't show that he was gay or bi, so I kept it a secret.

Today he posted a photo of himself at SF Pride. I also checked his account and it says he's interested in men (not sure when it changed). For some reason, seeing this made me really happy. He wasn't in the healthiest friend group in high school (some of the guys were pretty notoriously homophobic), and some of the party stories passed around said he was a bit of a mess at times. I think I'm just really glad to see him in a place now where he can be open about these things and am hopeful he is living a happy life.

Why is it so hard to get a lot of detail in such a small space.


Avatar update.

Nice! It looks really good. Did you make the art or find it somwhere?

I'm into all this rainbow. Just amped mine up a bit too.

That looks awesome.

 

[Golnei]

Nice! It looks really good. Did you make the art or find it somwhere?

http://silverjow.tumblr.com/post/122687892527/well-done-america-and-happy-pride

 

[tiebreaker]

I'm changing my avatar to celebrate too )

 

[B-Dex]

I think my Libido died. RIP.


This is about me not a coment on anyone's photo.

 

[CornBurrito]

Dial this way, way down, please.

And no, it's not OK to provide commentary on photos that someone posted in another thread for entirely different purposes than quenching your thirst. People find it creepy and uncomfortable. I know this from personal experience.

Though shouldn't it be inappropriate to ogle pictures of people from Pride or certain events? Those people aren't necessarily the same ones posting those pictures online. Attending Pride doesn't seem to be consent to have your photo taken and posted online. Or is the difference that random guy #123 might not be on GAF? And what about hot celeb photos? Honestly to me it seems only justifiable to ogle pictures that were taken for that express purpose, where the person being photographed obviously gave consent for their photo to be used for that purpose.

 

[DOWN]

Though shouldn't it be inappropriate to ogle pictures of people from Pride or certain events? Those people aren't necessarily the same ones posting those pictures online. Attending Pride doesn't seem to be consent to have your photo taken and posted online. Or is the difference that random guy #123 might not be on GAF? And what about hot celeb photos? Honestly to me it seems only justifiable to ogle pictures that were taken for that express purpose, where the person being photographed obviously gave consent for their photo to be used for that purpose.

Generally, I think most of the pictures I see here are modeling in some form. People here shy away from candids, of celebrities or otherwise. Not sure I get what you are addressing with the line of questions.

You're not getting at saying allowing any oogling at all is hypocritical if some types are decried by posters here, are you? This isn't like when you have said that it is preposterous to tell someone that they should practice safe sex when you consider all sex a risk and reckless, is it?

 

[Delio]

Though shouldn't it be inappropriate to ogle pictures of people from Pride or certain events? Those people aren't necessarily the same ones posting those pictures online. Attending Pride doesn't seem to be consent to have your photo taken and posted online. Or is the difference that random guy #123 might not be on GAF? And what about hot celeb photos? Honestly to me it seems only justifiable to ogle pictures that were taken for that express purpose, where the person being photographed obviously gave consent for their photo to be used for that purpose.

I've mostly posted modeling pictures. I will say I have posted random tumblr stuff here and there and if that becomes a problem it can be stopped.

 

[Vazra]

Well most of the people that kinda ignored me apologize when I woke up saying they were busy and one that wrote "Hey" but forgot to hit enter. Now the funny one is one that is actually bothered because I'm apparently being too nice lately. I don't get it since I have been toning down the attitude since last year and now is that it bothers him? Also what is wrong with being nice? It's not like Im acting like a care bear all the time cause I actually still use my snarky, sassy and smart comebacks when needed. Oh well I put that individual in the backburner. The funny one is the guy who is interested in me acting as if nothing happened yesterday for ignoring me and being extra sweet asking me what my plans for the day were and wishing me a nice day and how he wanted to keep talking later. He expanded his his vocabulary from calling me handsome to beautiful and while flattered I expected a small "sorry I couldn't respond yesterday I was busy". I guess you win some and lose some.

In other news... Don't ogle at me!

 

[Vitanimus]

I see both sides but it's not like people are posting the pics here and being like "i wanna cum all over his face xxxx", at best people would just say they're hot and move on

then again i don't post hot pics so

 

[scarlet]

Serious question: Is it creepy because it's a fellow user? How about some random strangers?

 

[Symphonia]

Corn, why the fuck are you trying to cause yet another petty fight? It's beyond pathetic.

 

[Vitanimus]

Serious question: Is it creepy because it's a fellow user? How about some random strangers?

that's kinda his point. as long as they're not on gaf it's fine

Corn, why the fuck are you trying to cause yet another petty fight? It's beyond pathetic.

herewego.jpg

 

[Delio]

I see both sides but it's not like people are posting the pics here and being like "i wanna cum all over his face xxxx", at best people would just say they're hot and move on

then again i don't post hot pics so

I mean when you post a picture of yourself thats a hot pic.

 

[DOWN]

Story time

That looks awesome.

Thanks

 

[scarlet]

Corn, why the fuck are you trying to cause yet another petty fight? It's beyond pathetic.

Yawn

that's kinda his point. as long as they're not on gaf it's fine

I know

 

[Vazra]

Serious question: Is it creepy because it's a fellow user? How about some random strangers?

I think the matter is more that there is a chance of that person actually finding out and feel bad/weird about it and let the mods know how that is uncomfortable and that might lead to a conflict. When its a random stranger since that person is not in gaf (that we might know of since we dont know every single gaffer) there are less chances of that person feeling offended, sexualized, ogled, etc.

I think its fine to post people modeling since you can tell when people are modeling for the pic or when its a creep shot and like Vitaminus said its not like we're here saying extremely dirty stuff about the pictures besides that time there was someone begging to be raped by some of the guys in the pics.

I mean when you post a picture of yourself thats a hot pic.

What if he feels like a plastic bag drifting through the wind, wanting to start again when posting the pic tho? What we might find hot might not be to others afterall.

 

[CornBurrito]

Generally, I think most of the pictures I see here are modeling in some form. People here shy away from candids, of celebrities or otherwise. Not sure I get what you are addressing with the line of questions.

You're not getting at saying allowing any oogling at all is hypocritical if some types are decried by posters here, are you? This isn't like when you have said that it is preposterous to tell someone that they should practice safe sex when you consider all sex a risk and reckless, is it?

No I am not saying ogling of any kind is hypocritical. I am saying it would be hypocritical to post any photo to ogle at (celebrity or not) that wasn't taken with the person's permission to be used for that purpose. Porn/modeling photos would be ok. The person in the photo consented to having their pictures taken for that purpose essentially. A celebrity nudes leak or candid photos from hot dudes at Pride or something wouldn't be ok.

Unless the only issue comes with it being a fellow GAFer, in which case that should be made clear.

Also my argument way back then about safe sex was more how the thread was all about no judgement. I found it a bit ridiculous that not using a condom was crossing the line for judgement, especially since the thread had been into "their body, their choice, don't judge." Having sex with 40 random dudes while doing PCP? No judgement, just use a condom. But that's an old story.

Corn, why the fuck are you trying to cause yet another petty fight? It's beyond pathetic.

Because I dont have work on Monday, and find low stakes argument to be potentially fun and a nice change of pace for the thread. Talking about if posting a photo online implies consent for that photo to be talked about or posted elsewhere is an interesting conversation.

 

[Vazra]

I think it's fine to discuss these things afterall it is interesting to see the different perspectives on the matter of the pics and also helps us maybe improve something if the community is doing something wrong. I personally dont see anything wrong so far since most pics (IIRC) are modeling pics and not creep shots. I do agree to please not to thirst over gaffers and posting their pictures without their consent since that can lead to a conflict that might also lead to bannings of people and if done too often even the community might be in danger.

Also there is a difference between calling someone cute and then going full thirst on pics. There are some pics that are literally people calling the guy like that is their ideal man or comment how cute they are and then we have the whole

and other comments that simply might go a bit overboard. I think you can share lots of type of pics of good looking men but its all about how people handle their comments more than anything since there is nothing wrong/bad with appreciating the beauty of people. The naughtiness of the comments can be the thing that changes things tbh.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Some people in this thread can go overboard when it comes to certain pics, it's just downright tacky at times. That being said, there's nothing wrong with giving compliments. But I have seen some communities on GAF have issues with comments towards certain members and it can make some people uncomfortable. Not everyone wants to be seen as a piece of meat and just because they've posted a pic, it doesn't give you the right to do so. There is a thin line.

Yawn

lmao

 

[Dany]

https://goo.gl/photos/ATRGt1CFfpwPxcVUA

A story from Pride yesterday

 

[DOWN]

No I am not saying ogling of any kind is hypocritical. I am saying it would be hypocritical to post any photo to ogle at (celebrity or not) that wasn't taken with the person's permission to be used for that purpose. Porn/modeling photos would be ok. The person in the photo consented to having their pictures taken for that purpose essentially. A celebrity nudes leak or candid photos from hot dudes at Pride or something wouldn't be ok.

Unless the only issue comes with it being a fellow GAFer, in which case that should be made clear.

Also my argument way back then about safe sex was more how the thread was all about no judgement. I found it a bit ridiculous that not using a condom was crossing the line for judgement, especially since the thread had been into "their body, their choice, don't judge." Having sex with 40 random dudes while doing PCP? No judgement, just use a condom. But that's an old story.

Because I dont have work on Monday, and find low stakes argument to be potentially fun and a nice change of pace for the thread. Talking about if posting a photo online implies consent for that photo to be talked about or posted elsewhere is an interesting conversation.

Human decency would dictate that you don't spread leaked private pics online so that won't happen here. Not sure if street photography at Pride is the same as creepshots, but I don't mind hearing people explain that one. To me, if a GAFfer didn't post the pic in here, we shouldn't discuss it in here. I think it's uncomfortable to have members use pics for discussion without permission in a different place than where you shared the images with the group intended.

https://goo.gl/photos/ATRGt1CFfpwPxcVUA

A story from Pride yesterday

Never been to a pride parade but that one looked fun

 

[Dany]

Yeah it was an insane amount of fun. The parade went by faster than previous years and the crowd was rambunctious. But overall it was a lot less ratchet than last year or the year before. The police were really cracking down on idiocy this year from what I could tell.

Glad to have spent it with mah cutie and friends.

 

[SoraanTribal]

Saw Inside Out finally. I think I went into the movie with too high of expectations because it wasn't as good as I was hoping it would be. Not a bad film, but definitely not one of Pixar's best. I almost fell asleep during the movie which is something I almost never do.

 

[Symphonia]

Someone makes a comment about people trolling? S'cool.

I make a comment about people trolling? I'M SO FUCKING WRONG.

Done with this place, man, I swear.

 

[Dany]

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

 

[Vitanimus]

Someone makes a comment about people trolling? S'cool.

I make a comment about people trolling? I'M SO FUCKING WRONG.

Done with this place, man, I swear.

lol not really. corn brought up his point in a calm and collected manner, and right after a mod said to tone it down, you reply in an aggressive manner. it's not hard.

 

[Kevyt]

I think I need to tone it down when it comes to complimenting people's selfies, especially Down. I'm the biggest offender in this.

Sorry Down and many others I've thirsted after.

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

Eat a lot.

Hmmm, a bracelet with something nice carved in it?

 

[SoraanTribal]

Can someone add some rainbow to my avatar pretty please?

EDIT: Someone else already did it in the gay marriage salt thread.

 

[Berordn]

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

I'm working on the fourth so I've got nothing really to add there, but for any sort of gift for muh boo I always go for gift bags... but he's a big nerd so it's easy to find a bunch of little things for him. I've got one waiting for him now with a Palutena amiibo (his favorite Smash character), a Cheshire Cat shirt (his favorite Disney character), a little heart necklace and ring and some flashy undies (which is admittedly a bit of a gift to myself).

 

[Dead Prince]

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

at first there was a party at a friends house.
but then there's a party for a friend's birthday but i think they are going out of town. maybe they plan to do both? lol. we'll see. I think most are off friday. we'll see how things go.

 

[bigkrev]

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

Beeaaaaccchhhhhhhh

 

[Vazra]

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

Pretty much be home unless I have money to fix the laptop screen. Here 4th of July is not that big of a deal despite being a holiday.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Folks in USA,

What are your plans for the fourth of july? Cutie and I are gonna hit up some fireworks show, theres going to be tons in the city. Hopefully go to the beach and I knows he itching to hit up a history museum. Also his birthday is coming up....ahhhhhh....what do i get him!?

Fireworks at Six Flags the night before, then coke volunteering for a 5k race at my fitness center on the 4th, followed by a cook out. Then probably back to Six Flags on the 5th, lol.

 

[Dany]

Didn't you just go to six flags several days ago?

 

[kitchenmotors]

Didn't you just go to six flags several days ago?

Haha, yep. Got a gold membership with Phil. We get free parking and also bought a dining pass. It basically costs us nothing for the day and we get to eat for free.

 

[Kater]

(Source)

 

[Razmos]

Dial this way, way down, please.

And no, it's not OK to provide commentary on photos that someone posted in another thread for entirely different purposes than quenching your thirst. People find it creepy and uncomfortable. I know this from personal experience.

My apologies, I just resent the fact that I was trying to prevent someone feeling uncomfortable, essentially doing a nice thing, only for someone to challenge me and question me.
My reaction was slightly overblown, but I'd only just woken up and it wasn't a nice thing to see straight away.

No I am not saying ogling of any kind is hypocritical. I am saying it would be hypocritical to post any photo to ogle at (celebrity or not) that wasn't taken with the person's permission to be used for that purpose. Porn/modeling photos would be ok. The person in the photo consented to having their pictures taken for that purpose essentially. A celebrity nudes leak or candid photos from hot dudes at Pride or something wouldn't be ok.

Unless the only issue comes with it being a fellow GAFer, in which case that should be made clear..

The issue WAS made clear, that was exactly what I was talking about anyway, you chimed in unnecessarily.
If you wanted to start a discussion you could have done that many other ways than basically calling me out. It was a petty attempt to start an argument and I regret rising to it.

I suppose that's what I get for trying to do something nice and decent though. I won't bother in the future.

And regarding the last pic I posted, it was from a shoot with a wide variety of guys posing shirtless in front of the camera and listed on a site of "the hottest guys at Coachella", so yes, it was for ogling, and no I'm not doing a background check on every hot pic that I post here. We aren't harming anyone by enjoying a bit of eye candy. But it clearly went too far with the discussion yesterday, which you agreed with.

There is nothing more to argue about so i'm leaving at it that, please don't bother me like that again.