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Limited Run Games - Putting digital games into your hands

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Wereroku

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It didn't sell out even close to 15 seconds short of maybe the soundtrack version which had less than 200 copies in the first batch so that was to be expected. So yes if you were going for the soundtrack version then even that time not being logged in to sites in advance could be enough to miss out on that even with a one copy limit. But if you were going after the normal version it still showed close to 50 after 5 minutes. Hell it was just showing 1 copy left just now even. So sorry I still can't comprehend how somebody ready for it to go live could miss out. Just makes no sense to me. Could have been a glitch or something I guess but why wouldn't that impact everybody?

Well yes I selected a bundle then that sold out while I logged in then when I went to select a regular ps4 copy they were already sold out. The batch information was bugged the PS4 sold out within a minute or 2 and the inventory tracker took several minutes to catch up to that.
 

Shizuka

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So far, Limited Run Games have:

Released

Breach & Clear (Vita): 1500 copies worldwide.
Saturday Morning RPG (PS4 & Vita): 1980 & 2500 copies respectively worldwide.

Confirmed

Cosmic Star Heroine (PS4 & Vita): no amount of copies announced.
Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty (Vita): no amount of copies announced.

Hinted

VA-11 HALL-A (Vita).


Is that accurate?
 
In today's digital world, would you really need a physical copy to play and another sealed physical copy to keep? Especially of a game that has been available digitally and for a cheaper price for a rather long time and that you could have played ages ago? It would easily be enough to get just one physical copy later on to display on your shelf.
I mean, 15 years ago, you would have largely had no choice if you want a sealed videogame collection (for whatever reason), but nowadays, that's not really the case. That's not to say that there might not be legitimate reasons to want 2 copies other than profiting off of them (even though I think 1 per person per platform would suffice).

Anyway, I don't really care either way, but that's probably down to the fact that so far, none of the games offered by LRG have been interesting enough to me to even try to get a copy. I imagine I might feel differently when there's something that I want. :p

Well, there's also the argument that people who do that provide a nice cosmic balance to video game collecting and preservation. They're vastly outnumbered by the type of people who threw away boxes and manuals back in the 80's and 90's, and still trade in smashed cases and destroyed discs today (with companies like Gamestop sometimes just straight up trashing currently unsellable surplus they don't yet value).

I have an extra sealed copy of Retro City Rampage DX, but I couldn't afford a second copy this time and I'd only ever sell this kind of stuff under severe financial duress or far in the future when it's worth it to and I'm an old man who's life is short, and just wants to do heroin or something instead of video games. When you see CIB copies of NES games going into new hands, to people who have ambitiously vast, hermetically sealed museum-like collections... the games are often coming from the equivalent of people like us. Possibly 'cause we died like the old man in that movie Comic Book Villains.

Hell, the guy who owns Mile High Comics out here in Denver and recently sold one of his multi-million comic warehouses to a marijuana grower (now is the time to sell, during the legalization boom) is probably the absolute extreme of someone who'd buy two copies of a game just to keep one sealed.
 

Shizuka

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You're saying they need one to collect and one to play. I'm saying they can buy a physical one to collect and play a digital version.

That's what I'm doing, myself, but I get what he means as well. People will want to open a physical copy, touch the cartridge, insert it in the console, it's a different experience even if it sounds like a silly one for most people.
 

Wereroku

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That's what I'm doing, myself, but I get what he means as well. People will want to open a physical copy, touch the cartridge, insert it in the console, it's a different experience even if it sounds like a silly one for most people.

People keeping plastic wrapped games are crazy. Not as crazy as people who seal them in plastic cases to be rated but still crazy.

are the disqualified orders going back up on the site for sale before 6?

No. They are being mixed into the 6 o clock orders.
 
You're saying they need one to collect and one to play. I'm saying they can buy a physical one to collect and play a digital version.
They want, not need. With that logic, anyone who wants to buy one to play should just buy it digitally instead.

That's what I'm doing, myself, but I get what he means as well. People will want to open a physical copy, touch the cartridge, insert it in the console, it's a different experience even if it sounds like a silly one for most people.
Yeeep
 
That's what I'm doing, myself, but I get what he means as well. People will want to open a physical copy, touch the cartridge, insert it in the console, it's a different experience even if it sounds like a silly one for most people.

It's not silly at all! I can't wait to open my Digimon copy soon ~
People keeping plastic wrapped games are crazy. Not as crazy as people who seal them in plastic cases to be rated but still crazy.

Come on now.
 

Shizuka

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People keeping plastic wrapped games are crazy. Not as crazy as people who seal them in plastic cases to be rated but still crazy.

Like I said, it may sound silly or crazy for most people, but it's a legit feeling that I know a lot of people have. I have a lot of sealed games and limited edition because I ended up buying digital copies at some moment.
 

Spinoff90

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Only limited run game I have an extra sealed copy of is Retro City Rampage DX. Only because my initial order got lost in the mail for over a month with no tracking updates short of the last update being that it was in London since for some crazy reason USPS shipped it from Los Angeles to the UK instead of Canada. So ordered a copy from VGP just in case the original never showed up. Never sold anything on Ebay so never bothered selling it and none of my friends wanted it so just put it aside in case any of them changed their mind. Not going to lie I have no clue where I even put it so somebody out there that missed out on it probably hates me right now -_-

Can't say I have ever seen the point of keeping anything sealed though. If I buy something I want it for myself not to sell down the road so not worried about value. And it is no fun to me sealed. Just like Funko. I have a friend obsessed with keeping them in the box and protecting the boxes. I have all mine out of box and I think he comes close to a mental breakdown every time he sees them like that.
 
Disqualified orders will go up at 6 PM EST to give everyone a fair shot.

I also play digital games and keep my physical sealed, but only if I bought a digital version not knowing a physical was coming or it was on PlayStation Plus.

There is only like one factory that still makes PSP games and it's a long wait to get into queue. I also wouldn't want to hold up Vic at Gaijinworks.
 

emb

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What is your stance on releasing PSP games? I would love a physical copy of Trails in the Sky second chapter
I'd love that too!

I'm pretty sure it's logistically not feasible at all because of plenty of reasons, would be great if it happened though.

Even if somehow it was possible, I'm also pretty sure XSeed wouldn't want anyone else to do the publishing.
 

flohen95

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That's what I'm doing, myself, but I get what he means as well. People will want to open a physical copy, touch the cartridge, insert it in the console, it's a different experience even if it sounds like a silly one for most people.

I guess I just didn't consider that someone might want that and a sealed physical copy instead of just wanting it for the physical copy since I always open my games anyway instead of keeping them sealed. I didn't consider it part of what makes a physical copy worth it to someone. Sorry about that.

I still think that, with low prints like these, a limit of 1 per console and customer would be an overall better solution though. But in the end, it's not my decision and I don't plan on whining about LRG allowing 2 copies if they, in the future, decide to go with that.
 

LiK

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Disqualified orders will go up at 6 PM EST to give everyone a fair shot.

I also play digital games and keep my physical sealed, but only if I bought a digital version not knowing a physical was coming or it was on PlayStation Plus.

There is only like one factory that still makes PSP games and it's a long wait to get into queue. I also wouldn't want to hold up Vic at Gaijinworks.

how long is a typical wait?
 

Shizuka

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There's only one person crazy enough to do physical PSP games these days.

The wait for the Summon Night 5 UMD:

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Wereroku

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Disqualified orders will go up at 6 PM EST to give everyone a fair shot.

I also play digital games and keep my physical sealed, but only if I bought a digital version not knowing a physical was coming or it was on PlayStation Plus.

There is only like one factory that still makes PSP games and it's a long wait to get into queue. I also wouldn't want to hold up Vic at Gaijinworks.

Why not put them up before 6 for people who missed the 10am orders. Waiting til 6pm only helps people who are free then.

how long is a typical wait?

A few months it seems but the initial print of Summon Night 5 had a bad bug so he had to resubmit and started the whole process over.

I bought 0 copies

It's ok all the people who ordered 2 copies have your back on ebay for only $100.
 
That's what I'm doing, myself, but I get what he means as well. People will want to open a physical copy, touch the cartridge, insert it in the console, it's a different experience even if it sounds like a silly one for most people.

Oh man I don't have the willpower to keep a game unopened lol. I open all my games straight away even if I'm not planing to play it anytime soon. It's a really good thing I don't play TGCs anymore lol.
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
Not if you use what you collect then you just play games. Collecting solely for the purpose of having it sealed in a display case seems like an investment. Just seems strange to buy a game and not play it.

Seems strange to buy antique coins and not buy some drinks with them. Or antique stamps and not send postcards with those suckers.

Actually it doesn't.
 

Spinoff90

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Why not put them up before 6 for people who missed the 10am orders. Waiting til 6pm only helps people who are free then.

At this rate you will be asking them to make a new listing with one copy that requires a password to buy and giving you that password =P
 
Not if you use what you collect then you just play games. Collecting solely for the purpose of having it sealed in a display case seems like an investment. Just seems strange to buy a game and not play it.

People enjoy surrounding themselves with all sorts of things to just look at and appreciate. Lots of stuff that doesn't even have a utilitarian value just an aesthetic or monetary one.

Our entire civilization is really just built on shiny rocks that we arbitrarily ascribe value to and may or may not have found any actual uses for. Diamonds are supposed to be for cutting less dense things and possibly lasers or space stuff, but most people just wear them or keep them locked up.

I'm just a human being. We're all crazy.
 

Shenmue

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What's so bad about keeping these sealed? The digital versions are so cheap that it makes it even easier and makes even more sense.

I'll definitely be getting a physical copy of CSH and buying the digital to play.
 

emb

Member
Why not put them up before 6 for people who missed the 10am orders. Waiting til 6pm only helps people who are free then.
Deciding a time gives everyone a chance to prepare.

The batch going up later probably won't sell out as fast, since the bulk of orders probably came the first. That's my guess anyway, I don't have data to back that up. Point is, there might be some hope.
 

Shizuka

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Oh man I don't have the willpower to keep a game unopened lol. I open all my games straight away even if I'm not planing to play it anytime soon. It's a really good thing I don't play TGCs anymore lol.

I used to be the same way, but now I don't see a reason to open a game I already own a digital copy of, specially a Vita game, where there'll only be a cartridge inside. That said, when I open them, I want to be the one opening it. Four years ago, one of my sister's friends opened my Resonance of Fate PS3 copy. I lost my sense of legitimacy and ownership right there, which is the reason why I avoid buying used games unless the game is going for $100 new.

Seems strange to buy antique coins and not buy some drinks with them. Or antique stamps and not send postcards with those suckers.

Actually it doesn't.

Dallow, can you check the list I posted and see if it's accurate? You could add that to the OP, it'd be really handy.
 

noquarter

Member
Well, there's also the argument that people who do that provide a nice cosmic balance to video game collecting and preservation. They're vastly outnumbered by the type of people who threw away boxes and manuals back in the 80's and 90's, and still trade in smashed cases and destroyed discs today (with companies like Gamestop sometimes just straight up trashing currently unsellable surplus they don't yet value).

I have an extra sealed copy of Breach & Clear and Retro City Rampage DX, but I couldn't afford a second copy this time and I'd only ever sell this kind of stuff under severe financial duress or far in the future when it's worth it to and I'm an old man who's life is short, and just wants to do heroin or something instead of video games. When you see CIB copies of NES games going into new hands, to people who have ambitiously vast, hermetically sealed museum-like collections... the games are often coming from the equivalent of people like us. Possibly 'cause we died like the old man in that movie Comic Book Villains.

Hell, the guy who owns Mile High Comics out here in Denver and recently sold one of his multi-million comic warehouses to a marijuana grower (now is the time to sell, during the legalization boom) is probably the absolute extreme of someone who'd buy two copies of a game just to keep one sealed.
Uh, pretty sure Chuck Rozanski (the guy who owns Mile High Comics) would more than likely be the person who buys you're collection. He Was able to grow his business nationally and get to where he is in large part to coming across a comics cache and selling issues from it. The cache had a lot of comics in great condition because the original owner actually stored them properly and in a climate controlled area. Most of the comics bought though were believed to have been read, they didn't just get bought to hold onto.
 
Is it faux pas to request the mods to keep off-topic discussions out of this thread? This is a great place to interact with LRG, but there are people derailing the thread because they don't understand the collector's mentality.
 
Is it faux pas to request the mods to keep off-topic discussions out of this thread? This is a great place to interact with LRG, but there are people derailing the thread because they don't understand the collector's mentality.

It happens every time, and it's not completely useless feedback. Just let the thread go wild for a day :) It'll slow down again.
 

dgco86

Member
Not sure how I managed to read EST as PST, but here I am 3 hours after orders opened, hoping to God that I can make it for the second batch.
 
Uh, pretty sure Chuck Rozanski (the guy who owns Mile High Comics) would more than likely be the person who buys you're collection.

Sure would, which is exactly what I was painting him to be, while also painting him as one of the absolute extremes of the entire ecosystem of collecting and preserving things.

The cache had a lot of comics in great condition because the original owner actually stored them properly and in a climate controlled area. Most of the comics bought though were believed to have been read, they didn't just get bought to hold onto.

Sealed is a state that games can be in. The nice thing about comics is there is no shrink wrap and a single, careful read (preferably with cotton gloves) before bagging probably won't hurt. Some people re-read more than others. Many people have absolutely thousands upon thousands of comics to the point of backlog and even to this day some people are buying the most precious comics to never even touch. Sadly, many comics were never appreciated so much to begin with... but that's also why some are so precious in the first place. So it's good to have that balance that creates collectors and collectability. Otherwise, everything is disposable and of absolutely no persistent value to anyone, and we wouldn't even be in a thread related to a collectible product that defies the unsentimental virtues of an eventual, all-digital future.
 
When is CSH coming out? I still can't find anything about it. Do you have a basic projection for release, like spring or summer or fall? Thanks!

No set date but we're looking at first half of this year.

Out of curiosity, did you guys have any internal sales expectations for CSH when the project started? Between all the exposure at events and concerns over physical copies selling out even with an increased print run, you must be pretty pumped lol.

Not quite sure what to expect since the quality & scope on the game is so much bigger than our previous games AND we're doing more platforms (previously, our games were just Steam/PC which did well, Xbox Live Indie Games which did so-so, with a couple of delayed mobile ports that didn't sell very well). I also believe this is the first game of ours that has significant hype behind it (not talking about No Man's Sky or Hyper Light Drifter levels of hype but way more than our previous games). I can't speak for Bill's expectations, but here are my own thoughts:

First year of sales, across all platforms, with no crazy discounts ala Humble Bundle or PS+ IGC.
Under 50,000 sales: Disappointed
Around 80,000-100,000 sales: Very pleased
Over 120,000 sales: Gibbering insane

Those are hopes for digital sales. We've talked about how many copies to print for the physical edition, but we haven't made any firm decisions yet (and seeing how well SMRPG is going is definitely encouraging).

For reference, our best selling game (Cthulhu Saves the World) has sold somewhere in the 500k-1mil range across all platforms, though of course, that's been over the course of several years and the game has been discounted numerous times (and it was cheap to begin with).
 
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