TehGoomba7s
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But it's not a lot. It's 4-5 max from incompetent devs.
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List of PS5 Pro enhanced games
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The system has been out for 3 weeks and how many AAA games got a Pro patch? 30? This shouldn’t happen at all, so within this context, yes, it’s a lot. There should be 0 games that looks worse on a Pro.
TehGoomba7s
Member
Classic. Ignore all the big improvements and highlight the shit ones. Claim failure. Like clockwork.
Salty Pickle
Member
No you wrote that GT7 had ”a lot” of visual noise and that description I believe is a bit unfair. Sure it got some but not a lot. AW2 has a lot of noise.
The bad games some people are focused on are always the same.
SH2, Alan Wake 2 (and here there are both pros and cons), Star Wars Jedi Survivor performance mode and the two Ubisoft games using the same engine.
There are dozens of updates and many unpatched games that are better thanks to game boost.
It's unfortunate that these developers fucked up in not realizing their work was not good and they removed options, obviously ideally it shouldn't have happened but it's just a minority of titles that are used as weapons by certain people to downplay the whole thing.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I never claimed failure and I don’t ignore big improvements. The Pro is SUPPOSED to provide big improvements. That’s its damn job. The bad ones shouldn’t happen AT ALL and we’ve had a few in the span of a couple weeks. It’s been out for 21 days and only has Pro patch for 30-40 AAA games. That 5-7 are having problems is way too many already. The number should be 0.
Bad things always get far more publicity than good ones because things aren’t supposed to go badly. Look at PC, you’d swear every game is broken on there despite 99% being fine. It’s the 1% that get talked about.
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bundylove
Gold Member
So just playing aw2.
There was an update.
I dont see any noise anymore.
BUt i also disabled motion bkur and most importantly film grain.
I get a nice clean image now
Luipadre
Member
AW2 looks great in performance mode, sadly the performance itself is pretty bad. Thats my only issue with the Pro version
omegasc
Member
I'm happy with mine because I got it mainly for FF VII Rebirth and GT7, but I can see why others are not.
Launch is a mess so far. Maybe one day we will read stories about how the new SDK and/or PSSR was not yet ready and they had to release it.
Of the "Three Pillars", only the bigger GPU has been showing consistently good results: Pro Boost works nice but still depends on the game.
I still believe it will quickly improve, though. The hardware doesn't seem to be the problem.
Giallo Corsa
Member
So, Lords of the Fallen for 30, yes or no ? I've heard the Pro patch is great, really clean image quality even on 60fps
sncvsrtoip
Member
4-5 games that are graphics killers and looks poor in performance mode on ps5, pro should makes difference here not in games that already looks good on base ps5 like lou, ratchet or gr7. I was waiting with playing alan wake 2 and Jedi Suvivor for pro. Good that I didnt make same mistake with silent hill 2
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bundylove
Gold Member
I only play in quality.
I noticed some visual features besides rt that i didnt notice on base console.
I am happy with they way it looks in quality
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Luipadre
Member
Never tried quality on the Pro. I played through the game in quality on base PS5, i bought the Pro to forget about 30 fps modes
sachos
Member
I think this doesnt mean they MUST have a Pro patch, just that they run on the Pro without issue. Anyone correct me if im wrong here.
bundylove
Gold Member
I am digging the rt and extra effects.Never tried quality on the Pro. I played through the game in quality on base PS5, i bought the Pro to forget about 30 fps modes
Its a slow paced game and the 30 is very fluid.
30 in jedi is way worse it stutters a lot so there i want to play at 60 but looks like shit.
I think 40 vrr should be standard on the pro. Its a good compromise
TehGoomba7s
Member
The developers are supposed to make the game look better. Expecting 0 issues isn't realistic, especially when these games are poor on base consoles.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Magic-DEI-Hire
: I have no argument so I will just rate laughing emojis.
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‘30fps’ and ‘fluid’ don’t ever belong in the same sentence (unless it’s to say 30fps is not fluid)
bundylove
Gold Member
So you also dont play games just watch youtube videos people playing games
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I didn’t say we should expect 0 issue. I said 0 games should look worse on a Pro and there’s nothing unrealistic about that.
We all knew the launch and PSSR wouldn’t be perfect. What is? However, I don’t think any of us expected for any game to have worse IQ on the Pro.
Alebrije
Member
I have player most of Souls type games and this is the most accurate representation of Them.
Good lore , world connection is great, tons of setups.
Parring and rolling is great. If You go for the platinum is very chanllengy specially second and third round.
The only stuff that takes time to get used is the lamp...si for 30 bucks is worth.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Bingo.
Magic-DEI-Hire
Member
Real classy to make things a personal attack on a user. The laughing emojis are a direct response to how non-sensical some of your points have been. I have nothing more to say to you.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
None of them have been nonsensical whatsoever. You take it personally because you love the Pro and it gets you butthurt that someone criticizes it.
There are NOT 80 games with a pro update, to be precise there are 67 if you include games that were released today (29th nov) and while you may have tried 20 I don’t remember similar complaints when ps4 pro came out? Out of the 22 games I own Hogwarts, Alan Wake 2 & Silent Hill 2 are very problematic.
Again, I don’t remember people mass complaining that ps4 pro checkerboarding made their games look worse when that came out, but then again I didn’t buy a ps4 pro so I might be wrong
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yep, as far as I'm concerned, armchair quarterback drive by posting by those who rely on internet video are easy to ignore.
I've never been a glass half empty person so when I own something, I seek to make it work rather than going after negatives.
I wouldn't enjoy anything if I had opinions of things I owned that were negative all the time.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Fortnite opting not to use PSSR, instead staying on TSR.
Here it makes more sense cause TSR is Epic's in-house thing and they would rather stay on it, but it also helps avoid the PSSR growing pains.
Magic-DEI-Hire
Member
Your expectations are too high (as you clearly have focused on the 4-5 bad game updates instead of the dozens of good ones) - if you expect a technically perfect visual image, go to PC.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
My expectations of having no game to look worse on a better system are too high? Is this a joke?
King Dazzar
Member
To be fair. I genuinely cant recall the last time you said anything positive about the Pro whatsoever. Apologies if I missed your positivity, happy for you to prove or show me I'm wrong. When I scan back a few pages, with the positively received GT7 patch, you were focused on some RT issues. Maybe that's why people are pushing back? Just a thought.
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AgatonSax
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Yes this is true. I returned my Pro and was immediately struck by how much crapper everything looked on base PS5.
But you also forget that quite quickly as well.
Magic-DEI-Hire
Member
You’ve been blaming Sony for the 4-5 games with subpar patches instead of the actual game developers themselves while simultaneously ignoring the vast majority of games WITH improvements. The games by and large do look better - as XXL posted earlier I believe, I’ll paraphrase them when saying that I’m playing a game as it’s in motion and not standing around looking for things to criticize.
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XXL
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I agree that AW2 and SH2 are bad upgrades (but I havent tried them out for myself), but Hogwarts looks great to me.
I'm more impressed overall with the PS5 Pro than the PS4 Pro so far, the games that are good upgrades are way more impressive to me.
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MaKTaiL
Member
Great update! Leaving out PSSR was a smart choice.
Fabieter
Member
I think if you buy a really expensive hardware you should expect it at least to produce better results as the less expensive hardware. That's not outlandish. It's still early and differences might be tiny but I think its weird to even have a conversation where games look worse.
Luipadre
Member
Im not playing fortnite, but its a pretty great jump. Higher ress and HW RT. See? Pro isnt a bad hw, you just need talented devs
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bundylove
Gold Member
Sorry but do you even have one so you can see the issues yourself?
Yeah those 4 to5 games are ones most of us out aside to play it on the pro only to be hit with reality and end up playing it worse.
How long should i wait for them to fix it?
Whats acceptable?
I waited on jedi forniver a year and also on aw2.
Silent hill how long?
I also shelved avatar and of course its worse.
Which game is next?
A huge update and the second UE5 title that proves that hardware ray tracing is possible on the Pro. DF is also taking the chance to acknowledge what they missed in their analysis, that is hardware ray tracing also being present in SH2 quality mode.
It seems that for now with UE5 games it's best to not use PSSR and focus on higher res and hardware ray tracing.
Of course this will get 1/10 of the importance that Avatar got yesterday
FUBARx89
Member
Wait. What.
Why is SH2 using hardware ray tracing in 30fps just completely ignored in the SH2 video and article and casually brought up in a Fortnite video.
Granted SH2 looks like shit in fidelity mode with PSSR, but still, shouldn't it of been mentioned?
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bundylove
Gold Member
A huge update and the second UE5 title that proves that hardware ray tracing is possible on the Pro. DF is also taking the chance to acknowledge what they missed in their analysis, that is hardware ray tracing also being present in SH2 quality mode.
It seems that for now with UE5 games it's best to not use PSSR and focus on higher res and hardware ray tracing.
Of course this will get 1/10 of the importance that Avatar got yesterday
I dont play baby games.
Radical_3d
Member
Good video by Battaglia. His opinions are insufferable in the podcast but his analysis are spot on. Good performance of the Pro.
Magic-DEI-Hire
Member
Yes, I have had the Pro since day one and also have a lot of the Pro enhanced titles and have personally tested them myself. As previously stated, the ire should not be directed towards Sony but rather towards the third party developers responsible for the development and upkeep of their own games.
bundylove
Gold Member
PRove it
But accidentally you love the Ubisoft crap like Star War Outlaws and Avatar
It's your business anyway. We don't care.
Because they needed some developers if not simple users on resetera to tell them
Now the question is why the idiots at Bloober have forgotten to remove PSSR from the quality mode as well. Performance mode is fine now.
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Magic-DEI-Hire
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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As insufferable as his smirking and giggling over PC superiority is, he's the only person there who has some actual passion and guts to call our lazy, incompetent devs. I went from really liking John, to not being able to tolerate the wishy washy way he is. He never has the balls to really criticism any dev and he does us console people a disservice, given the fact that we know a lot of devs pay attention to DF.
bundylove
Gold Member
Your point?But accidentally you love the Ubisoft crap like Star War Outlaws and Avatar
It's your business anyway. We don't care.
bundylove
Gold Member
You have all the games we bitch about here.
How can you not?