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[dreamcastmaster]

They're very similar in terms of gang structure and the such. Again. I promise you this is the case in London too.

But as other said, yes I suppose the super high ups might have someone with a gun with them, but they wouldn't carry it because it's too risky for them to do it themselves due to relatively harsh penalties on gun possession.

Right so you're an expert on UK gang culture? Suppose,maybe, shadey types and "I heard" is all you've got. Hull that hotbed of gangs...

 

[Dabanton]

Maybe they use it because he was a gangster and the reason he was shot is because he was firing at police?

Like i said the Police and their helpful friends in the some of the media have a narrative to build.

If you want to take on-board the polices versions of events your more than welcome.

 

[jufonuk]

Like i said the Police and their helpful friends in the some of the media have a narrative to build.

If you want to take on-board the polices versions of events your more than welcome.

ok then so why shoot him in the first place then?? what motivational reason is there?
(I am not getting narky, just asking this question in a reasonable tone?)

 

[systematic]

Shows you how stupid the looters were. They take all the netbooks but leave the iMacs behind...

 

[Phonomezer]

I moved to London from Sydney by myself when I was 19 and the 3rd night there I had my wallet lifted in a bar near Piccadilly Circus.

I had to walk all the way back to Fulham and encountered a group of thugs in a back alley near Victoria. They asked me what I was doing there, I explained what happened, then two of them went out onto the street to ask people for change for me so I could get home. BLESS. They aren't all bad

 

[jufonuk]

I moved to London from Sydney by myself when I was 19 and the 3rd night there I had my wallet lifted in a bar near Piccadilly Circus.

I had to walk all the way back to Fulham and encountered a group of thugs in a back alley near Victoria. They asked me what I was doing there, I explained what happened, then two of them went out onto the street to ask people for change for me so I could get home. BLESS. They aren't all bad

sometimes people can give the impression that they are thugs etc but funny thing is sometimes they just help out...kinda warms my heart (being serious)

 

[Dabanton]

ok then so why shoot him in the first place then?? what motivational reason is there?
(I am not getting narky, just asking this question in a reasonable tone?)

No one knows yet their are conflicting reports about what went down.

I'm just saying taking the police's word as bond is very gullible.

 

[Furret]

Like i said the Police and their helpful friends in the some of the media have a narrative to build.

If you want to take on-board the polices versions of events your more than welcome.

So what evidence, or even conjecture, do you have that events were not as reported?

Do you deny that he was a gangster and gunrunner?

 

[jufonuk]

No one knows yet their are conflicting reports about what went down.

I'm just saying taking the police's word as bond is very gullible.

any links to the conflicting reports etc? many thanks

 

[Dabanton]

Shows you how stupid the looters were. They take all the netbooks but leave the iMacs behind...

Well if you look closely the Macs are locked down with what looks like a Kensington Security Slots

Precisely because of how easy they would be to nick.

 

[Übermatik]

Shows you how stupid the looters were. They take all the netbooks but leave the iMacs behind...

iMac's are actually pretty heavy, and awkward to carry.

 

[SolidusDave]

sometimes people can give the impression that they are thugs etc but funny thing is sometimes they just help out...kinda warms my heart (being serious)

Also, they knew he had no money on him. He was also not female and to steal his organs they would need to get some ice first.
;D

 

[jufonuk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvwQYcQlBf0

 

[ThatObviousUser]

iMac's are actually pretty heavy, and awkward to carry.

 

[jufonuk]

Tobias Funke??

 

[Übermatik]

That picture proves nothing, it's still true.

Then again, there is the iLugger...

 

[Ripclawe]

Reading an apologist column in the Guardian and my ghetto alert went off as soon as the writer called this place a "Vibrant" community.

Thats a big code word.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Reading an apologist column in the Guardian and my ghetto alert went off as soon as the writer called this place a "Vibrant" community.

Thats a big code word.

"Colourful community" is what the estate agents use!

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Tobias Funke??

Looked more like Larry David to me.

 

[kinoki]

we should also ban drinking as this can cause violent Behavior, fuck ban Mcdonalds so the Chav's & Rudeboys have less places to hangout, hell ban violent TV. fuck it how long before Video games are blamed in the Riots somehow??

GTA, Saints Row,Red Steel 2 and Zelda I am Looking at you!!!....

Oh god. I hate people who say stupid things like this. Let's analyse:

we should also ban drinking as this can cause violent Behavior

While alcohol has proved to cause violent crimes these are acts of individuals. Alcohol has a history and a place in our culture. From beer to drinks they have a place in society that isn't focused with the intent of killing people, unlike guns. Guns have no other purpose than to harm fellow human beings.

fuck ban Mcdonalds so the Chav's & Rudeboys have less places to hangout

I actually do believe that McDonald's should have a tax increase if the continue to serve dangerous food to children and youth. They should keep this extra tax until they can serve food that actually benefits society. Guns can't benefit society.

hell ban violent TV

Violence on TV as an artform helps explore man's inner self and makes him reflect. Heck, violence in itself isn't anything wrong. Violence and aggression can help in certain loaded situations. Guns can't help since they only kill people.

fuck it how long before Video games are blamed in the Riots somehow??

Wii Fit? I doubt anything can be blamed. No matter how good video games replicate killing other people it will never actually be killing people, like guns do. ALL THE TIME.

Stop it with the stupid. Guns don't help. Guns destroy. Guns are bad for everyone on this planet and should be banned.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Oh god. I hate people who say stupid things like this. Let's analyse:

While alcohol has proved to cause violent crimes these are acts of individuals. Alcohol has a history and a place in our culture. From beer to drinks they have a place in society that isn't focused with the intent of killing people, unlike guns. Guns have no other purpose than to harm fellow human beings.

I actually do believe that McDonald's should have a tax increase if the continue to serve dangerous food to children and youth. They should keep this extra tax until they can serve food that actually benefits society. Guns can't benefit society.

Violence on TV as an artform helps explore man's inner self and makes him reflect. Heck, violence in itself isn't anything wrong. Violence and aggression can help in certain loaded situations. Guns can't help since they only kill people.

Wii Fit? I doubt anything can be blamed. No matter how good video games replicate killing other people it will never actually be killing people, like guns do. ALL THE TIME.

Stop it with the stupid. Guns don't help. Guns destroy. Guns are bad for everyone on this planet and should be banned.

Wow. A post full of stupid calling others stupid...

 

[jufonuk]

Oh god. I hate people who say stupid things like this. Let's analyse:

STUFF

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

BTW I was saying all that in a "think of the children" sarcastic tone, the fact you analysed all it warms my cockles unless you are sassing me? ..hmm ponders.... therefore we cancel each other out??

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Oh god. I hate people who say stupid things like this. Let's analyse:

...snip...

Wow, someone forgot their internet sarcasm detector on the bedside table...

 

[Speedymanic]

Rioters wanted by the cops,

Stupid sites... :/

Hmm....

And the 'riot' has apparently spread to Enfield with the HMV there having its windows smashed.

 

[Meus Renaissance]

Rioters wanted by the cops,

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Hmm....[/quote]

http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/704532

 

[kinoki]

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

BTW I was saying all that in a "think of the children" sarcastic tone, the fact you analysed all it warms my cockles unless you are sassing me? ..hmm ponders.... therefore we cancel each other out??

I wasn't serious. But I felt like calling out some pro-gun activism even if it wasn't serious.

 

[Lerozz]

http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/704532

They knew it ahead of time already ! O_O

 

[jufonuk]

They knew it ahead of time already ! O_O

Tom Cruise has the power!!!! xenu be praised..he is operating at a thetan level beyond us all LRH will be smilling

 

[Speedymanic]

Enfield Town,

Oh dear. :/

 

[Ripclawe]

Time to bust out the water cannons and batons

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Shit that's like a 5 min drive away from me. Bet those wankers are from Edmonton, nothing of value to loot from there, so they went to Enfield Town.

Fuck man, police need to lock those fuckers up.

 

[Speedymanic]

Time to bust out the water cannons and batons

Needs to happen. There's no excuse for the spread...

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Needs to happen. There's no excuse for the spread...

Fucking softly softly approach means they know there are no consequences to these actions. Tear gas and water cannons.

 

[jufonuk]

fuck it's gonna spread South of the river, Elephant, Brixton, Lewisham, Deptford, New Cross Camberwell,Streatham , Greenwich we are doomed, shit I need to get some guns to defend myself.. SARF EAS' LONDARRRRRRRN STYLE MAAAAAYTE...

I seriously hope it don't...

Police in enfiled respond to twitter rumours

 

[The Incarnation]

Oh god. I hate people who say stupid things like this. Let's analyse:

While alcohol has proved to cause violent crimes these are acts of individuals. Alcohol has a history and a place in our culture. From beer to drinks they have a place in society that isn't focused with the intent of killing people, unlike guns. Guns have no other purpose than to harm fellow human beings.

I actually do believe that McDonald's should have a tax increase if the continue to serve dangerous food to children and youth. They should keep this extra tax until they can serve food that actually benefits society. Guns can't benefit society.

Violence on TV as an artform helps explore man's inner self and makes him reflect. Heck, violence in itself isn't anything wrong. Violence and aggression can help in certain loaded situations. Guns can't help since they only kill people.

Wii Fit? I doubt anything can be blamed. No matter how good video games replicate killing other people it will never actually be killing people, like guns do. ALL THE TIME.

Stop it with the stupid. Guns don't help. Guns destroy. Guns are bad for everyone on this planet and should be banned.

Throughout the ages they've been plenty of wars that didn't have guns.

Guns, knives, or screwdrivers, banning just guns it isn't going to prevent much on a local level.

A quick death by gun is much preferable to a slow bleedout via getting shanked by unna dem yout dem bredda.

 

[Speedymanic]

Police in enfiled respond to twitter rumours

 

[Meus Renaissance]

Last night there were reports on twitter and FB that there was looting in Woodgreen. Scotland Yard spokesman then denied that as false. How incompetent can you get?

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Last night there were reports on twitter and FB that there was looting in Woodgreen. Scotland Yard spokesman then denied that as false. How incompetent can you get?

Err, there was looting in Wood Green. The H&M had its windows smashed, we have pictures. Fucking idiot police. Need to sort this out. Now.

 

[jufonuk]

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shit, if that is your place hope you are/will be ok..

 

[Speedymanic]

shit, if that is your place hope you are ok..

Not mine, I'd be readying myself if it was. Boarding up the windows, setting traps, etc...

 

[Meadows]

Right so you're an expert on UK gang culture? Suppose,maybe, shadey types and "I heard" is all you've got. Hull that hotbed of gangs...

It is actually you sarkey bastard.

 

[Impeccable]

My wife's aunt lives in Enfield and her mum lives in Barnet. Needless to say it's getting a bit too close for comfort now.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

My wife's aunt lives in Enfield and her mum lives in Barnet. Needless to say it's getting a bit too close for comfort now.

I live in Enfield, N21. Fuck this shit.

 

[Cyport]

What saddens me is the fact there are some young people on twitter who are bragging they are in Enfield looting or wishing they were there.. It must just be attention seeking but even that is sad

 

[zomgbbqftw]

What saddens me is the fact there are some young people on twitter who are bragging they are in Enfield looting or wishing they were there.. It must just be attention seeking but even that is sad

Get Twitter to hand over the IP addresses. Police need to fuck shit up.

 

[Meus Renaissance]

 

[Speedymanic]

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Why are they milling about. Fuck some of these wankers up. Beat them to within an inch of their lives. Show them there are consequences to their actions.

 

[Zomba13]

Why are they milling about. Fuck some of these wankers up. Beat them to within an inch of their lives. Show them there are consequences to their actions.

I bet if they took any action at all there would be people here moaning about police brutality and feeling sorry for the cunts fucking up the streets and looting shit.

 

[Meadows]

Why are they milling about. Fuck some of these wankers up. Beat them to within an inch of their lives. Show them there are consequences to their actions.

Because there's nothing happening now?