Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Kayo-kun said:
Yeah, the Turks ain't taking shit from any scum. They've worked hard and they aren't about to let it go up in flames.
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London riots spreading through UK
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Yeah, the Turks ain't taking shit from any scum. They've worked hard and they aren't about to let it go up in flames.
LegendofJoe
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I've been busy the last few days and I'm behind on what the situation is like on the ground. Is the violence and/or numbers of people looting/rioting dying down now?
Betta Lines
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Ah... so it is. Serves me right for lightly skimming the article.Lyphen said:
symphonask
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5.29pm: My colleague Vikram Dodd writes about the Independent Police Complaints Commission's initial ballistics results on the shooting of Mark Duggan, which triggered Saturday's initial riots in Tottenham.
The results show:
The bullet lodged in the police radio is a "jacketed round". This is a police issue bullet and, while it is still subject to DNA analysis, it is consistent with having been fired from a Metropolitan police Heckler and Koch MP5 submachine gun.
The firearm found at the scene was a converted BBM "Bruni" self-loading pistol. This is not a replica; the scientist considers it to be a firearm for the purposes of the Firearms Act and a prohibited weapon and is therefore illegal.
The handgun was found to have a "bulleted cartridge" in the magazine, which is being subject to further tests.
At this stage there is no evidence that the handgun found at the scene was fired during the incident. The FSS has told the IPCC that it may not be possible to say for certain; however further tests are being carried out in an attempt to establish this.
The results show:
The bullet lodged in the police radio is a "jacketed round". This is a police issue bullet and, while it is still subject to DNA analysis, it is consistent with having been fired from a Metropolitan police Heckler and Koch MP5 submachine gun.
The firearm found at the scene was a converted BBM "Bruni" self-loading pistol. This is not a replica; the scientist considers it to be a firearm for the purposes of the Firearms Act and a prohibited weapon and is therefore illegal.
The handgun was found to have a "bulleted cartridge" in the magazine, which is being subject to further tests.
At this stage there is no evidence that the handgun found at the scene was fired during the incident. The FSS has told the IPCC that it may not be possible to say for certain; however further tests are being carried out in an attempt to establish this.
Crescendo170
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Yeah, even tea party-rallies has nothing on this.Hellcrow said:
zomgbbqftw
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Manager said:
I heard GMP fucked a couple of them up and the rest ran away. How it should have been in London on Sunday. Fuck up a few of them, bust some skulls and then watch the rest go home as they see consequences to their looting actions.
BlazingDarkness
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It was the largest it's been last night, with sporadic reports of small looting/vandalism throughout the day, we'll see tonight if it's really dying down or not, but many stores closed early today and boarded their windowsLegendofJoe said:
Mecha_Infantry
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No matter what happens we can't keep making assumptions. We have no idea what happened , so let's leave the guess work to othersmarrec said:
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Ponti said:
Hey, am I so bad for thinking that you guys have rooms for tea? There's rooms for all kinds of things. In retrospect, I should have said "attics" but I didn't realize it was such a hot spot.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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It's also likely most people rioting don't even know who Mark Duggan is.marrec said:
Brewster's Wallet
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I think this is very true. Listneing to the ones the interviewers here have talked to /accosted, they seem to just say "its for meh taxes, innit" or something dumb like thatManos: The Hans of Fate said:
symphonask
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"...IPCC investigators have spoken to the officers involved in the operation and have received forensic test results on the bullet which hit the police officer.
They have established that the bullet was a police-issue round which went through Duggans arm and lodged in another officers radio.
Duggans firearm, a blank-firing weapon which had been converted, was not fired at the police. However it is believed that he did draw the gun.
The IPCC is still awaiting tests results to discover definitively whether or not the weapon was fired."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8687177/London-riots-live.html
They have established that the bullet was a police-issue round which went through Duggans arm and lodged in another officers radio.
Duggans firearm, a blank-firing weapon which had been converted, was not fired at the police. However it is believed that he did draw the gun.
The IPCC is still awaiting tests results to discover definitively whether or not the weapon was fired."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8687177/London-riots-live.html
Manager said:
Nope, Portland Street is the end of my road, didn't hear one and haven't' heard shit.
When "80 youths" becomes 20 kids trying it on you know it's just people melting down with no backing.
Hell a bunch of people panicked here as they had closed the motorway leading to the Trafford Centre (big mall), turns out it was due to a lorry overturning.
Twitter is in some ways making this worse.
outunderthestars
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Ponti said:
So do we.
Betta Lines
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We have public tea rooms in some places...Sunflower said:
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
yeah i think this is important to emphasise. the looting and riots we see now have really no connection outside of opportunistic 'we can get away with stuff in this context', to the original protest outside a police station which turned ugly. that was specific to a individual community and had a purpose and direct complaint, these are kids looking to get free xboxes and getting kicks from destroying stuff. some may in part be motivated by getting one over the police because of previous stuff, but it doesn't have to do with mark duggan.
Clear said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cyDsuNx_U
Sorry.
Yeah it's fairly disgusting that Blackberry has gotten hacked for helping the police catch criminals. Granted, the hackers are obviously criminals themselves, so it makes sense.
LegendofJoe
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BlazingDarkness said:
Based on what I've read the motivation behind the riot is pretty tremulous. So surely things have to deescalate soon?
Live Free or Die
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time to call in the big guns:
zomgbbqftw
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Meadows said:
Yeah, they have done a sterling job in Manchester. One of the few cities with a lot of inner city gang violence that has yet to descend into chaos. Great work.
Meus Renaissance
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Sky just did a short report comparing the education and employment statistics in the areas hit with those that weren't. Whilst all of the communities are angered, communities in e.g. Hackney are more likely to have the opinion that socio-economic factors are the underlying causes for this type of culture whereas those in e.g. Battersea are more likely to dismiss it as sheer madness. I found that very interesting.
industrian
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Right now this seems to be an England-only affair. I'd like to think that the second someone started shit in Glasgow, people would get all John Smeaton on them.
BlazingDarkness
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Friend posted this on fb
about Manchester, anyone can confirm?
Strummerjones
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Clear said:
'Team Poison' were on the periphery of the whole Lulzsec thing. They seemingly consist entirely of 15 year olds - they're literally a bunch of children. Funnily enough this results in a tendency to do really stupid things.
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WJD said:
I can't tell whether coloured alloys and low-ness was done by the fire or not
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