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London riots spreading through UK
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Okay, I live in the US so I understand shitty government. So, call me out if I'm wrong. However, few things:Captain_Spanky said:
1. These people are lighting private businesses and peoples private property/homes on fire. While that hurts the state indirectly, the biggest impact is felt on the citizen. Thus, not doing shit for whatever bullshit message you seem to believe these animals are trying to convey.
2. Your bolded statement suggests that you would be happy to see your country descend into civil war. Not only is that a disgusting thought, but it's borderline treason. I didn't know it was so bad in the UK that one of its citizens would take pleasure in the idea of shooting at their neighbor.
Exterminieren
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These riots were sparked off by a man getting shot, and people are really saying that the cure is... more people getting shot? Jesus.
That said, water cannons and rubber bullets would not go amiss. London is spiralling out of control, and other cities are starting to follow; action needs to be taken.
That said, water cannons and rubber bullets would not go amiss. London is spiralling out of control, and other cities are starting to follow; action needs to be taken.
Meus Renaissance
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I've been watching the news about this for three days now. I just heard about the riots spreading beyond London to Birmingham. Part of me is baffled by the whole situation, while another part of me is scared this will spread to Liverpool (gods forbid).
Another part of me rationalises that this is the result of allowing a whole generation of social underclass to infest our estates, no doubt. Make no mistake - this is about class, not race. These people have no respect for authority, no stake in society, and are angry as all hell, so they have no problem seeing it all burn down. London's no different from Paris after all.
But the above doesn't explain the bunch of middle-class white guys who were reported demasked and caught by the BBC, so I dunno anymore.
What the fuck is going on?
^ Oh gods, Meus, you made me spit out my fizzy orange.
Another part of me rationalises that this is the result of allowing a whole generation of social underclass to infest our estates, no doubt. Make no mistake - this is about class, not race. These people have no respect for authority, no stake in society, and are angry as all hell, so they have no problem seeing it all burn down. London's no different from Paris after all.
But the above doesn't explain the bunch of middle-class white guys who were reported demasked and caught by the BBC, so I dunno anymore.
What the fuck is going on?
^ Oh gods, Meus, you made me spit out my fizzy orange.
zomgbbqftw
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Meus Renaissance said:
Dave must feel a bit like Maggie when she was making Navy cuts and then the Falkands war broke out. He is making police cuts and these terrible riots are breaking out. Fuck the police cuts, find the money elsewhere and hire more of them and give them all arms training.
Arsenal2022
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FreeMufasa said:
If its a head injury go get it checked out, not worth the risk of complications.
Captain_Spanky
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ghst said:
I don't have an agenda, it doesn't take an idiot to see that this is about more than an officer murdering a civilian. If it was just that it would have stayed localised, but this is slowly but spreading North, gaining momentum and lasting. Riots usually end in a day, this is on day 3 with no signs of slowing. If you can't read the very obvious message between the lines then I'd say it's more likely you have an agenda. People are pissed.
Gareth Bale
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Meus Renaissance said:
Already posted
ClosingADoor
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Please convince me people in this video deserve societies help and tax money: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqj1N9qeWXISubliminal said:
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Kentpaul said:
I dunno, if the chavs only outnumber them 2 to 1, the odds won't be good enough for them and they'd probably have to run.
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avaya said:
Looting and arson are not something the army should be called in for, as awful as it all is, I doubt any government would want to set a precedent like unleashing the armed forces on gangs of youths in the nations capital.
Granted I agree that this situation is a result of MET incompetence and I hope a lot of heads roll all the way to Tyburn for it.
The English Conquistador
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Manager said:
Damn, what happened at the end? Sounded like some struggle or something.
Prine said:
Yup, he said those exact words. Definitely was a "wait...what" moment too.
I believe he also said there were either 1200/1400 (I forget the exact number, I think that this was what I heard) police on the streets, and 600 coming externally.
jamieson87
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Genuine question - aren't they all abroad? TA the only viable option?Omikaru said:
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which one mottingham or bromley?Qasiel said:
I was at the McD's in Eltham nothing was going on. it was shut with some people walking around, had to get the bus back had heard all kinds of rumours, but it was quiet, just worried about my boy as he lives off eltham high street above a shop... my ex is keeping me updated and aware and ready to get out the house ASAP.
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Dambrosi said:I've been watching the news about this for three days now. I just heard about the riots spreading beyond London to Birmingham. Part of me is baffled by the whole situation, while another part of me is scared this will spread to Liverpool (gods forbid).
Another part of me rationalises that this is the result of allowing a whole generation of social underclass to infest our estates, no doubt. Make no mistake - this is about class, not race. These people have no respect for authority, no jobs (probably), and no stake in society, so they have no problem seeing it all burn down. London's no different from Paris after all.
But the above doesn't explain the bunch of middle-class white guys who were reported demasked and caught by the BBC, so I dunno anymore.
What the fuck is going on?
^ Oh gods, Meus, you made me spit out my fizzy orange.
This..these are the true people who have nothing to do with the rioting. Similar to the student fees marches
Vivalaraza
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Chriswok said:
Just seen this. Salute. Let's make this viral London-GAF.
Phonomezer
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Chriswok said:
Amen
Arsenal2022
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Prine said:
British policing ethos, bar the PSNI, meant that the water cannon was never considered required. Tbh, while there have been protests with violence before, there hasn't been riots like these for a very long time.
http://lockerz.com/s/127844562
LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFUCKER I HOPE HE GETS RIMMED IN JAIL ON A DAILY BASIS
LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFUCKER I HOPE HE GETS RIMMED IN JAIL ON A DAILY BASIS
BlazingDarkness
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rioters/looters in Wolverhampton apparently
Dabookerman
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I'm absolutely enraged at this. I genuinely want them all to fucking die. Absolute degenerate fucking cunts.
Subliminal
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ClosingADoor said:
Do you think that this would be happening if we gave them sufficient help in the first place?
Mr. Luchador
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Vivalaraza said:
She shamed them all. 1 woman.
Gary Whitta
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Wow the guy who shot that CJ video has some balls. Was that a Sky reporter or just a man in the street?
Captain_Spanky
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"Come on looters- be responsible for your actions. Leave local businesses out of this. If you want to ransack somewhere make sure it's Primark, Gap or Tesco. The same goes for people. Don't harm your fellow citizen- punch a policeman instead. Otherwise you're just causing trouble. Kids these days have no respect."
the message is a bunch of cunts have realized they can smash a window, walk into a store and go home with a 50" plasma screen, gratis.Captain_Spanky said:
i'm a frustrated polemic at the best of times, but there is no politicised slant you can push on this. if someone burns to death in their bed tonight, empowering posts like yours will have to shoulder some of the blame.
These events have no political agenda or any kind of ideology, they are simply a convenient excuse for the underclass of Britain to loot and cause trouble for the rest. Hopefully these events will bring this ignored and dangerous part of society to the forefront so the goverment can tackle this problem.Captain_Spanky said:
Riots are not rational, carefully considered expressions of an agenda. They are riots. They are not political demonstrations that are organized in advance to spread a specific message. They are riots.
That doesn't mean they have no cause other than "people are thugs." They are often a reflection of socio-economic conditions and festering tensions. Permanent underclasses will riot. That's the way of the world.
Fair enough, but it was the Maggie wouldn't let this happen point that I was disputing.zomgbbqftw said:
Anyway, that video is what I like to see, hopefully there are more like her, which could slow down this 'movement' somewhat.
And I don't see how the Deputy Mayor can rule out bringing in the army; by bringing them out (not even with live ammo) they could stop this insanity before it gets even worse.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Captain_Spanky said:
Oh dear.
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