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London riots spreading through UK
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APZonerunner
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Tomorrow's reaction really could be a make or break moment for Cameron, his cabinet, public opinion and therefore the viability of the coalition and Boris as mayor. All the hacking and cock ups and u-turns have done a lot of damage, but this is something else, something bigger.
Scott32020
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I hope everyone is as pissed as me a the UK police force. Not doing shit about this, its disgusting. To a certain extent (very little) I don't blame some of the looters and rioters because this is what happens when the government doesn't look after its own people and instead spends it on other international wars and such. And since people know they can get away with it easily it just pushes it further. Bring out the water cannons and gas!
Gareth Bale
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Thank fuck for these guys
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ms...&ll=51.558503,-0.055275&spn=0.114195,0.298691
Don't know how up to date this is, but it's somewhat useful.
Don't know how up to date this is, but it's somewhat useful.
Forsete said:
Police forces have special armed response teams who are called upon when firearms are required. For the Met that is CO19.
Why would the general police need guns when the general public don't have them? Particularly riot police who are only deployed in certain situations and could be joined by CO19 if required.
APZonerunner
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Forsete said:
Most are trained to a similar level to the US. We also have special armed response teams within each division of the police who are trained in a wider variety of weaponry like fully automatic weapons etc. Police on the beat don't have them as they really don't need them - as evidenced by the fact that in 3 days of rioting nobody (that we know of) has died yet. A lot of bad shit, but no deaths. In the 92 LA riots 50-something people had been killed by now.
You'll see police in key places - by number 10, parliament, the palace, airports - readily armed - usually with both SMGs and handguns both - but you'll rarely if ever see a cop on the streets wearing a holster.
Ether_Snake
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Give them the chance to use rubber bullets at least.
They should have rubber bullets and sound cannon.
Why would you need some food RIGHT NOW. Give me a break. And I did say anyone who looked like trouble. You know, people throwing shit and wearing hoods and all.
And who the fuck is going to go get some food where there are riots? lol
They should have rubber bullets and sound cannon.
OG Kush said:
Why would you need some food RIGHT NOW. Give me a break. And I did say anyone who looked like trouble. You know, people throwing shit and wearing hoods and all.
And who the fuck is going to go get some food where there are riots? lol
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Margalis said:
It did stop the rioting though IIRC.
leadbelly said:
There are shops being looted and burnt, people terrified and still it's not time to use rubber bullets? I disagree buddy, it's gotten to the stage where something needs to be done. The police have no control here, bring the army and use the kettling technique if the majority care about chavs getting shot. Bet you the police that was criticized for kettling students during the protest are smirking right now, this softy approach is working out really good isnt it?
number47 said:
A genius really, he is my hero. Made a career shouting and taking the piss out of chavs 5 days a week, legend.
Margalis said:
Can you please stop getting peoples hopes up please? Thank you
To prevent shit like this, duh. All it takes is a little spark where some dick thinks that he can get away with shit since the cop next to him cant fatally wound him.Wes said:
This type of rioting would be very difficult to pull off in America with the numbers at work here since there would be a zero tolerance effect in place.
outunderthestars
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Margalis said:
It quelled the riots did it not?
and seriously, the police don't carry guns over there? Do they just politely ask people to stop committing crime?
Gareth Bale
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Andrefpvs said:
No. But I've been there an awful lot. God tier venue.
CadetMahoney
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Vivalaraza said:
Polari said:
Police have got central London on lock. Too many high value shops (jewellery etc.) and stuff. It's funny though because the west end is pikey town central for many low income males to just loiter and stuff but they seem unable to get anything going on Oxford street or anything.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't just do mass robberies of civilians/tourists in those areas instead of targeting stores.
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Margalis said:
Oh ok, and here I thought rioting could get people injured or killed.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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~Kinggi~ said:
There is also the issue of an armed populace (going back to that Korean-American example in LA). Riots can happen, but honestly you don't seem massive country wide things since the "Hot Summers" of the 60s/70s.
Foliorum Viridum
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Jesus the BBC is reporting this spreading in so many other cities.
Shut these people the fuck down. Jesus christ.
That Sony fire is MASSIVE.
I'm going to keep BBC News on to watch in bed but something tells me it's going to make me too angry to sleep.
Shut these people the fuck down. Jesus christ.
That Sony fire is MASSIVE.
I'm going to keep BBC News on to watch in bed but something tells me it's going to make me too angry to sleep.
BlazingDarkness
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The Sony fire is seriously massive
Forsete
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Wes said:
For protection, yourself (as a cop) and others.
Thugs can be armed. A druggie charging you with a knife. Anything can happen when a gun can be useful.
Where I come from all cops (in "outer service") are armed, but they seldom use them.. Only when it is absolutely necessary. Sometimes it is enough to present the weapon in the hand and a situation is calmed down. I see no problem with it.
Your Excellency
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Margalis said:
What was she doing?
Hydranockz
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metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/7days.asp?zipcode=London
London and much of the UK will be seemingly flying into space on Thursday. Were it so easy to get rid of the terrible people there.
London and much of the UK will be seemingly flying into space on Thursday. Were it so easy to get rid of the terrible people there.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I thought they were meant mostly for invasion threat? Sorry I know I'll check a wiki, but I know little of them besides WWII, The Office, and Monty Python.Wes said:
Escape Goat
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teh_pwn said:
I don't disagree with you but once you go down that path there isn't any turning back. Its a tense time for decision makers and I hope they know its going to work and not backfire on them.
THE:MILKMAN said:
they help an injured man to his feet in what seems like a catring gesture, then while he's still dazed and confused they look through his bag and loot it. then deciding the contents are no good they throw them away, destroying them since they're no use to them instead of even leaving them for the rightful owner to possibly take back. Kinda sums up the mentality at work here.
Phonomezer
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Sony really can't catch a break, can they
BlazingDarkness
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BBC witness confirming Sony fire is caused by looters
Dark Machine
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Wes said:
And we're sending them all to Afghanistan.
London certainly needs the TA. Liverpool 'riots' may be calming somewhat, it's just thugging kids trying to be hard. Apparently some broken windows in the city centre but a HUGE police presence there now. Being described as a 'bad mischief night' rather than full blown riot now.Admiral Bone to Pick
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I don't know if there's a God, but if he does exist, he really hates Sony.
radioheadrule83
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Witness said youths came out of the Sony place carrying Wii consoles ha
Guy was assaulted for no reason. I really really hope this results in a sea change in society... one where people realise how fucking shameful it is to be this brazenly cuntish.
Guy was assaulted for no reason. I really really hope this results in a sea change in society... one where people realise how fucking shameful it is to be this brazenly cuntish.
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
I've always understood them to be a reservist/volunteer part of the armed forces. They have to serve a certain number of days in the year (usually on training exercises I think) but I'm sure they've been deployed abroad in the past.
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications of deploying them. I should read up on them too.
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