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Possible zombie season ideas :lol

the amazing thing is, the flash sideways IS effectively the zombie season. :lol :lol

I kinda laughed when Vincent first lay down next to Jack, cos it was funny just how much this show was destroying my last thread of masculinity.

I assume the island runs on your tears.

I know it's hyperbole, but I doubt I'll ever get sick of The End, or stop finding it emotive. It's really one of the best episodes of television ever for me.

It's beautiful for what it is. It tries to be nothing else. It just is. You can say whether or not you liked the show and I won't have a problem with that. Nothing can be made to please everyone. However, if you've loved the show up til The End, really cared about those characters, I don't see how anyone could argue they didn't end up where they belonged (at the very least in the main timeline). It was just all so grand for who were left on the island.

Gawker can go fuck themselves.
Kotaku, Gizmodo, and whoever reviewed the finale. They all suck and suck hard.

What's the point in reading reviews anymore? You, me, them, everybody, we got what we wanted to get out of it. You know what is true and it is true to you alone. That's how I see this finale. Some people can be informed about what really happened (they didn't die at the plane crash!, or something similar) but as long as they understand what happened, it doesn't matter whether they liked it or not. That shouldn't sap your enjoyment by any means. I know it doesn't affect mine.

Why did we never ask ourselves what reason Jack has for bleeding from his neck, and assume maybe it was a death wound. Grrr.

I look forward to rewatching the sideways now. Even Kate's, boring as it is, fits in with her guilt for taking Aaron and wanting to make sure he stayed with Claire.

Yea, all the bullshit nonsense about them being attracted to each other makes much more sense now. I won't forgive poor writing/directing, but atleast it makes far more sense now.

I dont think it played to any specific faith, but rather faith as a general concept.

Basically. I was so worried they were gonna play right into the straightforweard HEAVEN LOLZ ending, but they left it open for anyone to interpret as their own (including a non-religious man like myself.

The problem with Locke's awakening was two-fold:

1. Its like 20 seconds too short.
2. They choose mostly random scenes with no importance. Yes, they showed the biggie on the beach after the crash, but then...Locke teaching Walt to throw knives? REALLY? Where was the pounding on the hatch? Where was the turning of the donkey wheel? Where was him leading the others? Where was his death?

I think they couldn't show a whole lot of Locke's life because there was a whole lot of it he didn't end up enjoying in the end. All the other "awakened" moments were happy moments. Locke teaching Walt to throw knives was something he could take pride in. Him being deceived into turning the donkey wheel is not one. Him mercilessly banging on the hatch asking for answers is not one (particularly since he ended up forsaking the hatch in its time of need). He never lead the others for more than 3 minutes before he flashed. the fact is, john Locke's life was not filled with as many happy, fulfilling moments as Sawyer/Juliet, Sun/Jin, etc. It's better to not show his lower points, even if it makes for such a short moment.

MIB seemed like a cool bro to me. His mother killed a shitload of people, it's not like she didn't deserve death. Obviously when he went all smokey things changed, but I see the guy as a bit of a tragic figure. You can't blame the dude for becoming bitter.

Really can't. The fact they even characterized the Smoke Monster at all this season is just stunning. After watching the entire show all the way up to just before The incident, I would've never imagined The Smoke Monster would be the final antagonist for the Losties, and I especially never would've expected to feel sorry for him in any way. Just the fact they even went there is one of my favorite parts of this season (and the show).

 

[Arment]

That's my desktop now. Awesome.

 

[TheGreatDave]

You know what one of the biggest mysteries of Lost is? Why Smokey needed his damn backpack all the time. After he hit Jack in the head with a rock, the dude went back and picked up that backpack. Why?! What could he possibly need?!

 

[Salsa]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2l9yxh.jpg[/ IMG][/QUOTE]

Bigger size ?

 

[CrankyJay]

You know what one of the biggest mysteries of Lost is? Why Smokey needed his damn backpack all the time. After he hit Jack in the head with a rock, the dude went back and picked up that backpack. Why?! What could he possibly need?!

Not sure...but I liked how his shirts were dry when everyone around him had giant neck sweat stains. Maybe his shirts were in there.

 

[Aesius]

You know what one of the biggest mysteries of Lost is? Why Smokey needed his damn backpack all the time. After he hit Jack in the head with a rock, the dude went back and picked up that backpack. Why?! What could he possibly need?!

It was his overnight bag. Toothbrush, deodorant, medications, shaving cream, etc.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

You know what one of the biggest mysteries of Lost is? Why Smokey needed his damn backpack all the time. After he hit Jack in the head with a rock, the dude went back and picked up that backpack. Why?! What could he possibly need?!

an even BIGGER mystery is why the fuck Widmore was unprepared for EVERYTHING. "Oh, this is happening earlier than expected." "the machine's not ready for another day or so!!" "go back to the outrigger and pick up our equipment." (what was the equipment?!!)


SO MANY MYSTERIES ROLLED INTO ONE.

 

[TheGreatDave]

Bigger size ?

Don't have a source. Just saw it on /tv/

 

[CrankyJay]

an even BIGGER mystery is why the fuck Widmore was unprepared for EVERYTHING. "Oh, this is happening earlier than expected." "the machine's not ready for another day or so!!" "go back to the outrigger and pick up our equipment." (what was the equipment?!!)


SO MANY MYSTERIES ROLLED INTO ONE.

I really thought Widmore's involvement on the island during S6 was much more than just bringing Desmond back. I think there was another angle that the writers didn't have time to expand upon. =(

 

[Salsa]

I wish Snakes on a plane 2: Electric boogalo existed.

 

[Arment]

It's beautiful for what it is.

That's how I feel. What an emotional ride.

I had my hopes up when they said 'we're going back.' and when we got such a vague answer to where they were going at the end, I felt like perhaps that was going to be my understanding. Maybe they were going back to the island, but to one they earned by being a part of such a large part of the events on the island. That's kind of how I took it, as someone not religious.

Does this mean the alternate reality wasn't made by the nuclear explosion? Christian said they made the alternate reality so they could meet each other. But Daniel is there and he died before the incident. Unless it's retroactive of course, or Daniel counts because he is originally from after the incident.

 

[Linkhero1]

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This is awesome. If you find a bigger size please share :D

 

[B.K.]

Complete series boxset.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Lost-Season-6-and-The-Complete-Collection/13811

 

[Arment]

Day 1 baby. :lol

 

[Puddles]

In the weeks leading up to Season 6 premiering, I went on a Lost rampage, trying to catch up from only having watched a few episodes of Season 1. I got all the way up to around Season 5 Episode 6 before giving up. The first few episodes of Season 5 just sucked so much that I couldn't keep going.


Now that the series is over, I tried to watch a few more episodes, and much to my surprise, Season 5 starts to get really, really good from Episode 7 onwards. Now I wish I hadn't given up a few months ago. I could have caught up and been part of this whole pop culture phenomenon in real-time. And I could have been going to the Lost parties that some of my friends were having.

 

[neoism]

That's how I feel. What an emotional ride.

I had my hopes up when they said 'we're going back.' and when we got such a vague answer to where they were going at the end, I felt like perhaps that was going to be my understanding. Maybe they were going back to the island, but to one they earned by being a part of such a large part of the events on the island. That's kind of how I took it, as someone not religious.

Does this mean the alternate reality wasn't made by the nuclear explosion? Christian said they made the alternate reality so they could meet each other. But Daniel is there and he died before the incident. Unless it's retroactive of course, or Daniel counts because he is originally from after the incident.

I think it just blew them back to the future lol and killed Juliet. I don't think it made an alternate reality, because that's not what it was. It was all fake, made by all the losties that pased on in the end.

 

[StoOgE]

I really thought Widmore's involvement on the island during S6 was much more than just bringing Desmond back. I think there was another angle that the writers didn't have time to expand upon. =(

Yeah, Widmore's involvement was a bit of a letdown this season. He showed up, acted all bad ass and then got shitfucked for the remainder of the series.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

That's how I feel. What an emotional ride.

I had my hopes up when they said 'we're going back.' and when we got such a vague answer to where they were going at the end, I felt like perhaps that was going to be my understanding. Maybe they were going back to the island, but to one they earned by being a part of such a large part of the events on the island. That's kind of how I took it, as someone not religious.

Does this mean the alternate reality wasn't made by the nuclear explosion? Christian said they made the alternate reality so they could meet each other. But Daniel is there and he died before the incident. Unless it's retroactive of course, or Daniel counts because he is originally from after the incident.

While I've always been on the "jughead created the universe train", I'm beginning to feel like they keep it going for them and all of their friends to finally get their own closure. People like Keamy get fucked because that's how they treated the Losties IRL. It's a place designed for their friends like Ben (MJ!) to finally resolve their issues and move on into some sort of nirvana. They don't have to move on with them, but they eventually meet them in the end all the same. I see it as, they created it with Jughead. It was built upon their collective memories. It's like how the mind constructs a dream, but only realer. They created it with their free will (while fate may have dictated how their lives ended) - it's a reward for their actions, their struggles, and their successes - a reward for them and all of the people they truly ever cared about.

 

[PBY]

the real main answer from the finale: black people don't go to heaven in the lost-verse

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

the real main answer from the finale: black people don't go to heaven in the lost-verse

Rose.

 

[Almighty_Chocobo]

Just finished watching it... I have to say it was probably one of the best series finales that I've ever seen, though there are still some outstanding questions...

Why weren't Michael or Walt at the church?

 

[PBY]

Rose.

loophole!

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

i hope the Senet game in the set isn't actually just the game, and it's holds some discs inside of it or whatever. I don't think any of us really know how to play the game or would ever care to.:lol :lol

unless it's actually a backgammon set. I've never played backgammon.

 

[ZeoVGM]

The finale of Lost has shattered all previous download records on BitTorrent. In less than a day, close to a million people have downloaded the last two episodes, with more than 100,000 people sharing a single torrent at the same time. As expected, most downloads come from outside the US where the finale aired later or has yet to air on television.

Hah.

 

[Yoboman]

Just finished watching it... I have to say it was probably one of the best series finales that I've ever seen, though there are still some outstanding questions...

Why weren't Michael or Walt at the church?

They weren't important to Jack and Michael is in Hell

 

[jamesinclair]

I havent had internet since thursday so I havent read anything in this thread or had a chance to post.

Some quick thoughts:

I dont think any other series, ever, could air a 2.5 hour episode, after a 2 hour retrospective and at no point have it feel slow or boring. Ive seen 90 minute movies that drag, but with Lost, it almost felt too short.

I thought it was a wonderful finale. Yes, they left a lot unanswered, but the characters were resolved, and the flashsideways had a good conclusion.

As I said, I havent read anything in this thread, but Im sure that the "answer lovers" hated the episode because so much was left unaswered.

I was thinking about that today: Everything that was answered was related to the characters. Some things had a direct answer (voices in forest), some things were answered, but not explicitly (the polar bears), and some things had no conclusion (the statue, egyptian stuff). The thing is, there is no way stuff like that could have been answered within the world of the characters. Yes, they could have time traveled to egyptian times....but then the series would have spun off into something else. They could have gone the richard route, but how? Have jacob meet a lovely egyptian lady and dedicate an episode to that? Thats not what Lost is about.

The ending was very predictable, I knew it would end with jacks eye, but thats not a bad thing. In fact, it made it more emotional to see it ending like that. I loved the Vincent cameo, although the first thing I thought was "the writers have been reading online forums that demand vincent be important"


I went to bed sunday night very sad. I woke up sad. I was sad at work. Hell, just writing this makes me sad,
Ive never had a TV show or movie affect me that way. Thats how incredible the ending was for me. In comparison, the 24 ending had no emotional connection. It was the mixture of being sad about the characters and being sad that the show ended, essentially, they broke the 4th wall with my emotions.




Did not like: Sayid ending with Shanon. No Mr Eko, no nikki and paolo. I excuse Walt not appearing because hes probably a 7 foot tall man we wouldnt recognize.


Also, I read a newspaper article today talking about a "debate" amongst lost fans on what the ending meant. Huh? Didnt jacks dad spell it out extremely clearly? Whats there to debate?

 

[Dead]

Just finished watching it... I have to say it was probably one of the best series finales that I've ever seen, though there are still some outstanding questions...

Why weren't Michael or Walt at the church?

Michael cant move beyond the Island. He pretty much said as so in Everybody loves Hugo. The Whispers are the dead who can't move beyond the Island.

Its why we never saw him in the sideways.

 

[Lard]

loophole!

She was married to a white person, so she got a pass.

This show is racist.

 

[Snuggles]

Illegally downloading bastards,

Btw, Omg Rite do you still have the GIF of your old avatar with Jack doing a jackface and shaking his head "no"? I need it.

 

[NimbusD]

an even BIGGER mystery is why the fuck Widmore was unprepared for EVERYTHING. "Oh, this is happening earlier than expected." "the machine's not ready for another day or so!!" "go back to the outrigger and pick up our equipment." (what was the equipment?!!)


SO MANY MYSTERIES ROLLED INTO ONE.

Like so many other things in this show, anything that doesn't directly relate to the main themes of the show, or aren't designed to purposely fuck with the audience, it's just filler dialogue to make it seem like the show's more fleshed out than it is.

 

[ZeoVGM]

They weren't important to Jack and Michael is in Hell

Well it's not like Penny is important to Jack either.

I'm kind of annoyed they didn't just throw Michael and Walt in the afterlife/flash-sideways/church for the final episode. All the writers did was shit on those characters. :\

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

You know, if you rearrange the letters in Church, you have CAESAR.

Just have to turn some letters sideways and cross some others, ya know.

Spoiler

Caesar is the white light.

 

[NimbusD]

loophole!

She married a white man.

 

[StoOgE]

Michael cant move beyond the Island. He pretty much said as so in Everybody loves Hugo. The Whispers are the dead who can't move beyond the Island.

Its why we never saw him in the sideways.

But there are people who couldn't leave the island who were in sideways world.

 

[Archaix]

Well it's not like Penny is important to Jack either.

I'm kind of annoyed they didn't just throw Michael and Walt in the afterlife/flash-sideways/church for the final episode. All the writers did was shit on those characters. :\

Michael shouldn't have been in. Like it's been said, he was a whisper on the Island because he couldn't move on.

Walt shouldn't have been there either, because it's unreasonable to think that the most important thing in his life was his time on the Island. Unreasonable and far more depressing than any of the other characters saying the same.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Illegally downloading bastards,

Btw, Omg Rite do you still have the GIF of your old avatar with Jack doing a jackface and shaking his head "no"? I need it.

Limmie see if I can find it. I should, in one of my 5132532532 folders. Why do you need it?

 

[NimbusD]

I'm confused about Charlie and other people visiting Hurley after their deaths. Think they did it on a pit stop to Purgatory?

 

[Snuggles]

Limmie see if I can find it. I should, in one of my 5132532532 folders. Why do you need it?

More than anything, I just loved the gif because it was funny but it would also be ideal for responses to some of the posts in this thread and a few others.

 

[StoOgE]

I'm confused about Charlie and other people visiting Hurley after their deaths. Think they did it on a pit stop to Purgatory?

well poor aaron was stuck as a baby in purgatory.

How shit would that be? The most important part of your life was the week and a half you were on an island before someone stole you from your mom.

 

[MiamiWesker]

In comparison, the 24 ending had no emotional connection.

I disagree with this, it wasn't in the same league as LOST but 24 was surprisingly emotional.

Anyway, no more promo spoilers to worry about.

 

[Almighty_Chocobo]

They weren't important to Jack and Michael is in Hell

They don't have to have been important to Jack to be in purgatory. Shannon and Jack didn't really have a very solid connection that I can recall, and even she was there.

Still, by that method of thinking, shouldn't Ben be in Hell too? Sure, he didn't actually enter the church, but that was on his own accord. Wouldn't a number of them be in Hell? Jin killed in cold blood working for Sun's father. Locke killed a few people on the island, even before MIB took over. Sawyer killed an innocent man thinking he was the guy that conned his parents... Etc..

 

[Archaix]

They don't have to have been important to Jack to be in purgatory. Shannon and Jack didn't really have a very solid connection that I can recall, and even she was there.

Still, by that method of thinking, shouldn't Ben be in Hell too? Sure, he didn't actually enter the church, but that was on his own accord. Wouldn't a number of them be in Hell? Jin killed in cold blood working for Sun's father. Locke killed a few people on the island, even before MIB took over. Sawyer killed an innocent man thinking he was the guy that conned his parents... Etc..

Purgatory is your own word for where they were, there's no reason to believe that Hell is an actual thing in the Lost universe. Moving on seemed to be all about coming to terms with what you did during your life. Michael couldn't move on from what he did. Ben, presumably, did some large amount of good living as the #2 on the Island and also could justify much of what he did as being in service of it (whether truthfully or while being played by MIB).

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I'm confused about Charlie and other people visiting Hurley after their deaths. Think they did it on a pit stop to Purgatory?

I've interpreted the ghosts as not being able to move on just yet because they're not with the ones they loved (Charlie, Isabella, Christian) or they haven't fully forgiven themselves for their actions in life (Michael & Ana Lucia could go either way on this). They were stuck there in their own limbo, unable to move onto a life where they could reach their final resolution and be absorbed into nirvana. Michael needed Walt, Charlie needed Claire, Isabella needed Richard, MiB's mom needed her children, etc.

The sideways, for me, makes the ghosts aspect of the show so much better and meaningful, without really saying anything at all about it.

 

[Zabka]

Does this mean the alternate reality wasn't made by the nuclear explosion?

I don't think so, some would disagree. I think blowing up Jughead did actually save the island (and the world), in the same way that Desmond hitting the failsafe and Jack replacing the stone did.

Which means Juliet saved the world.

 

[thekad]

They don't have to have been important to Jack to be in purgatory. Shannon and Jack didn't really have a very solid connection that I can recall, and even she was there.

They actually fucked off-screen. It's in the DVD extras.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

OK this is fucking awesome! Wallpaper = get!

Converted it to 1080p:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/shagg187/Untitled-2.jpg

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I don't think so, some would disagree. I think blowing up Jughead did actually save the island (and the world), in the same way that Desmond hitting the failsafe and Jack replacing the stone did.

Which means Juliet saved the world.

Juliet saved the world by allowing Desmond to allow Kate to allow Jack to save the world.

Live together, save the world.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Michael shouldn't have been in. Like it's been said, he was a whisper on the Island because he couldn't move on.

Walt shouldn't have been there either, because it's unreasonable to think that the most important thing in his life was his time on the Island. Unreasonable and far more depressing than any of the other characters saying the same.

Yeah, I get that. But I don't think they ever should have made him a whisper. I just feel they did nothing but shit on those characters who deserved better closure than they got. If freaking Sayid and Shannon got closure, so should Michael and Walt.

In my mind, I imagined seeing a 17-year-old Walt in the flash-sideways, having been rasied by his mother and never meeting Michael, only for the two to somehow bump into each other (perhaps brought together by Hurley) and remembering everything. I think that scene would have trumped every other "awakening" scene in the episode. Tears would have flowed, dammit.

Obviously we all had scenes in our heads that we thought we might see. I think something like that would have been incredibly moving and really, make up for all the crap they were put through on the show.

 

[Blader]

i hope the Senet game in the set isn't actually just the game, and it's holds some discs inside of it or whatever. I don't think any of us really know how to play the game or would ever care to.:lol :lol

unless it's actually a backgammon set. I've never played backgammon.

Nobody really does. =P

 

[Salsa]

Illegally downloading bastards

I agree. But you gotta blame it a little on the networks not simulcasting (i know some did), i know its not an easy thing to do, but when you dont, this happens. Probably the most expected series finale ever, and people dont wanna avoid spoilers. I agree with you that it is wrong, but im not surprised or anything, it was pretty obvious.