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Mad Men - Season 7, Part 2 - The End of an Era - AMC Sundays

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DarkKyo

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I just got caught up with the most recent episode and was crying my eyes out by the end of it. What an episode. I'm really going to miss this show.
 
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Fintan

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wbsmcs said:
Has everyone who knew about Don's secret died or is in the process of dying?

His brother
Bert
Betty
Anna
...Pete in the series finale?

Did Megan know about it though? I can't remember if he ever told her, and am I missing anyone else who knows about it?
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Faye knows, I think. Not that she's going to be coming back into the show or anything...
 
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Hazmat

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wbsmcs said:
Has everyone who knew about Don's secret died or is in the process of dying?

His brother
Bert
Betty
Anna
...Pete in the series finale?

Did Megan know about it though? I can't remember if he ever told her, and am I missing anyone else who knows about it?
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Megan knew. She might not have known every detail, but she knew about Anna and his past identity. We never see him tell her, but she is aware of a discrepancy between his real birthday and his official birthday in the season 5 premiere. It seems he learned one thing from his first marriage: secrets are no good until you really want to fuck the lady that lives downstairs.
 
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Kotetsu534

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Now that I think about it, Don and Peggy have hardly spoke at all during the second half of season 7, what with Don being AWOL, Peggy being without an office at McCann, Peggy being away with Joan on the pitch at McCann, Don trying to save SCDP, Don dealing with Megan's divorce, and Don chasing Diana. Given the importance of their relationship to the show, I'm sure they'll meet in the final episode.
 
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-Pyromaniac-

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Kotetsu534 said:
Now that I think about it, Don and Peggy have hardly spoke at all during the second half of season 7, what with Don being AWOL, Peggy being without an office at McCann, Peggy being away with Joan on the pitch at McCann, Don trying to save SCDP, Don dealing with Megan's divorce, and Don chasing Diana. Given the importance of their relationship to the show, I'm sure they'll meet in the final episode.
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maybe Don will write her a letter and she'll read it except there won't be a voiceover, just a reaction shot of her reading it and crying. We'll just know what it said ;_;
 
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Altazor

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Kotetsu534 said:
Now that I think about it, Don and Peggy have hardly spoke at all during the second half of season 7, what with Don being AWOL, Peggy being without an office at McCann, Peggy being away with Joan on the pitch at McCann, Don trying to save SCDP, Don dealing with Megan's divorce, and Don chasing Diana. Given the importance of their relationship to the show, I'm sure they'll meet in the final episode.
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and their only meaningful conversation was the "why don't you tell me your dreams then so I can crush them" one. Bit of a sour note, so I hope that's not the last time we'll see them together on-screen :(
 
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brianmcdoogle

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Altazor said:
and their only meaningful conversation was the "why don't you tell me your dreams then so I can crush them" one. Bit of a sour note, so I hope that's not the last time we'll see them together on-screen :(
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Sometimes the last thing you say to a person is regrettable.

I hope we don't see Peggy, or Joan, or Pete, or Peggy again. I like their send offs.

But, what do I know? My top 5 ending songs are:

1: American Pie, by a one-hit wonder
2: The End, by The Beatles
3: The End, by The Doors
4: You Can't Always Get What You Want, by the Rolling Stones
5: Another Obvious Song, by 60's/70's band.

:p

Lastly, reiterating, first person who posts the Bertran Cooper "Bravo" gif is a rotten egg! :p
 
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Deleted member 30609

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I really feel like we might have seen the last of Don?
 
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phanphare

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Hazmat said:
I think so. I know Betty came into the office one more time when she was pregnant in season 3, but I don't think Peggy saw her.
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there was that one time where betty came to the office with sally and bobby for their portrait and don wasn't there. peggy freaked out and had to ask joan what to do while admitting that don was out having sex with someone. which was ironic because iirc he was out visiting with adam.
 
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lazybones18

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phanphare said:
there was that one time where betty came to the office with sally and bobby for their portrait and don wasn't there. peggy freaked out and had to ask joan what to do while admitting that don was out having sex with someone. which was ironic because iirc he was out visiting with adam.
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that's the scene I was talking about in my post
 
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Dany

Banned
3 more days.

Man screw this. The last episode was so emotional. I really have no idea what to expect. Echoing what I felt when Boardwalk Empire ending, I have no reason to be disappointment. The show was phenomenal through and through and I hope Mad Men has a ending as tight as Boardwalk.
 
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Cornballer

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- NY Times interview: Matthew Weiner, the Creator of ‘Mad Men,’ Prepares for Another Fade to Black
Q. It was announced more than four years ago now that this season of the show would be its last. Have you been thinking for that long how you would wrap up the series?

A. No, no. I didn’t want to change pulling out all the stops on every season. You tell the story, you go for broke, use everything you have. You do a finale that could be the end of the show every season.

The most predictable thing about “Mad Men” at this point is the way the public has reacted to Episode 2 of every single season. And I think that my desire to tell a new story is always disappointing to them. Every single time. And I’m always on the defense about this. “Flight One,” the second episode [of Season 2] when all of a sudden they’re paying attention to Betty Draper, they’re like, “Who is this? Where’s Pete? What’s going on?”

Do you feel that people want to see, at least in these last episodes, some clear sense of moving to something conclusive?

Well, let’s talk about what “people” means. The first serious history class I took, I had this wonderful teacher, Dr. Johnson, who basically said, “Whenever you hear the word ‘people,’ you are hearing baloney.” People are unpredictable. They’re always divided, and they are individuals.

Now, when I refer to “people,” the “people” that I know that are watching the show or sending me emails are really, really enjoying the show, but they are a little bit mystified about where it’s going and what’s going on. And I gotta tell you, that’s my job! I’m not doing “How to Keep a Moron in Suspense”; I’m not playing that game. I have a story, and the story starts on Page 1, not on Page 50.

Failure to meet the expectations of what is a typical “Mad Men” episode to me is a tremendous success, because I don’t believe there is such a thing. We never think that way. Anything that smacks of an episode that you’ve seen before we’re either going to play with or I will throw it out. I hate it.

What should be the function of a good series finale? Do you have an obligation to give each character a kind of final moment?

I hate to say it: I don’t really feel like I owe anybody anything. I’ve been lucky to have them invite us into their home, but we have held up our end of the bargain so far. We really have, and we’ve made such a painstaking effort to surprise and delight and move machinery that tells the story.
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The night the finale airs, are you going to watch it, or are you going to go into a bunker somewhere and just wait for it to pass?

No, I’m doing the exact opposite. We’re going to have an event in Los Angeles. Jason Reitman is a fan of the show, and he does this wonderful thing where he takes scripts and recasts them and they do a live reading. So, they’re going to do the first season finale, “The Wheel,” on a stage in Los Angeles at the Ace Hotel. And then after it, that crowd will watch the finale, and the cast is supposed to come. I’ve invited the crew. And so, we will take up 200 of those seats in that 1,500-, 2,000-seat theater, and then we’ll have a party afterward.

You’re not going to do any press following the episode?

I’m doing one talk. I’m going to have a conversation with a writer friend of mine, A. M. Homes, at the New York Public Library, and that will sort of be the decompression of it. I don’t anticipate people standing up front with pitchforks and hot tar or anything like that.

But you know me, I can’t keep my mouth shut. I needed to talk about the show, because I was not on HBO and it became apparent right away that it helped sell the show. There was no Twitter or any of these things when we started, so it really required having a conversation with me. I’m sure at some point if anybody asks me about it in the future, there will be some conversation, but I don’t want to be on the defensive. And it’s not because I’m anticipating whatever. I feel like I’ve already talked too much about the show, quite honestly. And half the time I’m defending it, and I’m trying to explain what I meant. And it’s kind of like the show should do that.
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DietRob

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
I just got done reading Time's long form piece it was great. I know I haven't been active in these threads with you all but I would like you all to know that after every episode I've jumped in here and read the observations of GAF and learned quite a lot.

I'd also like to thank Cornballer for providing such awesome content week after week for me to delve even further into the show with. I'm glad the show is going out on it's own terms but damn if I'm not going to miss the hell out of it.

Thanks again for all the memories Mad-Men-GAF. It's been fun reading about your thoughts.
 
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Cornballer

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- NY Mag: Take the Mad Men Superfan Quiz
There are the Mad Men moments we’ll never forget — “Zou Bisou Bisou,” Bert Cooper’s dancing farewell, Sally walking in on Don and Sylvia — but how well do you know the details, the minor players, and the off-handed one-liners? Test how well you know your favorite show before it all comes to an end Sunday night.
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Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Do you feel that people want to see, at least in these last episodes, some clear sense of moving to something conclusive?

Well, let’s talk about what “people” means. The first serious history class I took, I had this wonderful teacher, Dr. Johnson, who basically said, “Whenever you hear the word ‘people,’ you are hearing baloney.” People are unpredictable. They’re always divided, and they are individuals.

Now, when I refer to “people,” the “people” that I know that are watching the show or sending me emails are really, really enjoying the show, but they are a little bit mystified about where it’s going and what’s going on. And I gotta tell you, that’s my job! I’m not doing “How to Keep a Moron in Suspense”; I’m not playing that game. I have a story, and the story starts on Page 1, not on Page 50.

Failure to meet the expectations of what is a typical “Mad Men” episode to me is a tremendous success, because I don’t believe there is such a thing. We never think that way. Anything that smacks of an episode that you’ve seen before we’re either going to play with or I will throw it out. I hate it.

What should be the function of a good series finale? Do you have an obligation to give each character a kind of final moment?

I hate to say it: I don’t really feel like I owe anybody anything. I’ve been lucky to have them invite us into their home, but we have held up our end of the bargain so far. We really have, and we’ve made such a painstaking effort to surprise and delight and move machinery that tells the story.
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Those are some great answers.
 
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Altazor

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Maengun1

Member
show me your skeleton said:
this season/half a season has been incredible and feels a world away from the ambling, aimless mess the last season/half was.
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Huh. I liked last year's episodes quite a bit more. Don scrambling to get back into the agency was a fun storyline, and I think Cutler was a great villain. Don and Peggy working together to win Burger Chef was awesome.

Not that I think this year is bad or anything, I always love the show. But I have more issues with these newest episodes. I still don't care for the time spent on Diana, I didn't like Megan's abrupt shift into bitterness, the McCann absorption is just depressing (which it's supposed to be, but I still am not happy it happened) etc.
 
Jackben

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
I want someone else to aknowledge that this show ending is going to leave a gaping hole in legendary dramatic television.
 
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lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
Jackben said:
I want someone else to aknowledge that this show ending is going to leave a gaping hole in legendary dramatic television.
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Indeed, truly the end of an era.

It's not legendary, but Rectify is very, very good. Worth checking out for fans of Mad Men, or just good TV in general.
 
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