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Mad Men - Season 7, Part 2 - The End of an Era - AMC Sundays
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layzie1989
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I'm really happy with Peggy and Stan being together. It's been obvious for so long their connection.
VeryGooster
Banned
I don't feel elated or disappointed. It's like "Of course," of course that's the kind of ending we'd get and I'll take it. This show is one of the rare instances I endorse it being about "the journey, not the destination" which I find to be horse shit most of the time.
The Sopranos never ended. They had to meet a deadline and right when they filmed the final scene there was a power outage. Being pressed for time, they just threw what they had together and played a song. Then they walked away forever.
Well said. This is why I loved it.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I honestly can't even think of a single other way I'd rather have the show end. I like the idea of Don finally coming at life with a newfound perspective. I like the thought that he went back to McCann one day and everyone was like where the fuck were you, and he said don't worry about it and churned out one of the most iconic commercials of all time. The thought that he got to see Peggy again, and hang out with Roger. Be there for his kids however he can.
Who knows what else new Don is up to. We were told all that without having to see it. Just by one single ad that Don created. And his best pitches were always some sort of reflection of what he had just been through in life. This time rather than see the pitch we just saw the end result because we know how he came up with it.
I don't know. Weiner hit it out of the park imo
LOL holy shit!!!!
Leona Lewis
Banned
Anyone who expected a grand, dramatic moment of catharsis has been watching the wrong show for the past 8 years.
If you care about the characters, you got everything you needed. If you care about plot and "tying up loose ends" then it's not the show's fault you haven't realized that the characters ARE the plot.
I don't know. I respect all opinions, but I don't know what people were hoping for other than...Mad Men.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
Truly excellent ending. Pretty brilliant idea by Wiener to end on the Coke commercial, too.
Hours Left
Member
I don't know how I feel right now. Goodbye Mad Men.
Dude Abides
Banned
Are we supposed to know the person who took top billing in Joan's firm? Hollowell was it?
killertofu
Member
Anyone expecting something huge probably hasn't been watching the same show as me.
That last scene summed it up well. Good job Weiner
That last scene summed it up well. Good job Weiner
Leona Lewis
Banned
Holloway is her maiden name.
Captain.Falafel
Neo Member
I do interpret it this way as well but I also can't help but think that it feels a bit...neat.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I would of preferred it more without the commercial or some actual proof Don is the one who made it.
Beyond that I am ok with everybody else's storyline.
I think that he does become more a part of his children's lives. I admit I root for Don, but the entire peace/love/harmony tone of the commercial he wrote in combination with his mini-breakdown by the pay phone leads me to believe his remorse will stick this time and he'll grow as a father, and as a person.
Sigh, I'd love to rewatch it, but I have to be up for work in 5 and a half hours.
Find it online and watch it yourself. Can't really explain it in words properly.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
AAAA SO MUCH THIS
sooperkool
Member
No, Betty didn't want things to change. She still wanted him to see them.
I was feeling the same way until the final meeting around the fridge door. Perfect.
World SkiFree
Member
Yeah, the Coke ending is a masterstroke. Both inspired and cynical, very Draper. Episode felt a little odd otherwise, with pacing and the storyline tidy ups. Good close all in all.
Yeah.....yeah. The more I mull it over the more I'm coming around to it.
shadyspace
Banned
Really? That's our ending? Don goes on a sabbatical and goes back to McCann with a great idea? What untread ground for this show.
EekumBokum
Member
You know what, I think I really like this ending. It says everything it needs to about Don's story without actually showing us. Thinking about it now, that meditation scene cutting to the commercial is brilliant.
I'm gonna miss this show ;_;
I'm gonna miss this show ;_;
Frustrated_me
Member
Holy shit.
oneils
Member
I think that is the babysitter on the phone. Which, if I'm right, tells us what we kind of already know about Joan. She is all business and didn't really mean it when she told Peggy that she would be the only one who could ever be partner. Having two names is just too important so it doesn't really matter whose name it is.
Of course I could be pulling that out of my ass!
Edit lol a postrr above says its her maiden name. Or I guess that is the name of her mother
slightconfuse
Banned
Coke ad was Dons sprit Bomb. Ended ending was perfect for the show, everyone moves on to the next stage of their lives and finally find so me sort of happiness .
lol
I don't think it was a gotcha moment but Peggy finally realising as Stan put it their's more to life than work.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Everyone is assuming the commercial in the end meant he wrote it. What if it was just a visual version of the closing song? The fact the credits didn't have one might of meant the ending add was just there for musical reference to the episode.
In fact that is how I'm going to interpret it, with Don finding some peace. Which is a pretty damn good ending all thing considered.
In fact that is how I'm going to interpret it, with Don finding some peace. Which is a pretty damn good ending all thing considered.
GoldenEye 007
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I think the bell is the proof. Meditating, had his zen moment inspired by someone else's plight. Which of course was also really his.
I think it's clear he made the ad. Of course given in real life, McCann Erickson created the actual ad.
Well. I quite everything outside of Don, even if it was more sentimental and traditional than the show normally goes. Everything was earned, from Stan & Peggy to Pete leaving to Joan's production company to Roger's will to Sally filling in for Betty. So funny too, "This...is a cactus" and Roger insulting Kevin and Peggy's "What?"s cracked me up
The Don plot needs to sit with me. The other guy verbalizing the themes of love and the impossibility of contentedness that have underlined the show was a bit far, and Don's experience in the commune in general was a kind of soul-searching we've seen from him before. If he did create the ad that's pretty cynical and could be fairly deep as I mull it over: if even at this terrible hollow point he turned transformation into advertising, that's something of a sign that all change is stasishe'll never escape selling people his ideas. I dunno. really need to think on it.
The Don plot needs to sit with me. The other guy verbalizing the themes of love and the impossibility of contentedness that have underlined the show was a bit far, and Don's experience in the commune in general was a kind of soul-searching we've seen from him before. If he did create the ad that's pretty cynical and could be fairly deep as I mull it over: if even at this terrible hollow point he turned transformation into advertising, that's something of a sign that all change is stasishe'll never escape selling people his ideas. I dunno. really need to think on it.
I was expecting some ambiguity of course, but I really love the particular ambiguity they went with here.
Did Don decide to go back to his old life again, make the Coke ad, life goes on? Did Don stick with his new hippie hobo wandering, someone else did the Coke ad, Don doesn't care about that stuff anymore?
Pretty nice ending either way....I'm still sad for the kids (though Don will be there for some in some way) but everyone else got a happy enough ending.
Did Don decide to go back to his old life again, make the Coke ad, life goes on? Did Don stick with his new hippie hobo wandering, someone else did the Coke ad, Don doesn't care about that stuff anymore?
Pretty nice ending either way....I'm still sad for the kids (though Don will be there for some in some way) but everyone else got a happy enough ending.
sooperkool
Member
I also love how people in this thread were speculating what iconic song the series was gonna close on, and it occurred to no one that it would actually close on an iconic ad
Actually its both. that song was a hit,it went to like #13 on Billboards hot 100
Huh? He had quite the personal breakthrough and epiphany there...I would say it was more than a sabbatical.
It was Holloway, which is Joan's maiden name.
World SkiFree
Member
Good call, but I suppose I see it a bit more through a cynical, "ad man" lens. Had an inspired idea from his hippy dippy experience. Great, great ending either way.
Wow...