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[DopeyFish]

a lot of japanese dev houses have been using mocap in their games and its implementation is stellar. what does mocap have to do with memory issues? LMAO You have a degree in animation; then you'd know that mocap is processed. You can't use it straight out of the vicon.

He's an animator. He's not the programmer or the disc manager. He just makes people move.

Gah.

And EA Sports has been doing mocaps for a long long long long time, though i'm not sure if they went back to hand made animations again.

 

[CrimsonSkies]

I thought it looked fine. Pitiful reactions from the usual dips.

 

[Borys]

I can't watch this at work.. so can I ask something? Does it look better or worse than ATI's realtime demonstration called 'Ruby' used in the R420 launch?

Worse.
Also worse than nVidia's Nalu tech demo.

But in Ruby you have only 4-5 characters on screen in one shiny room, here it's a whole footbal stadium, no comparison.

 

[Dante]

LMAO You have a degree in animation; then you'd know that mocap is processed.

Uh, most schools don't teach Mo-cap animation.

 

[nathkenn]

He's an animator. He's not the programmer or the disc manager. He just makes people move.

Gah.

And EA Sports has been doing mocaps for a long long long long time, though i'm not sure if they went back to hand made animations again.

and for the record I have a degree in animation but I'm a modeler/texture artist. I really dont like animating I'm not very good at it because I find it boring

I do know motion capture is processed and how it's processed effects it's quality greatly and limitations in a console like memory can have a terrible effect on it

 

[u_neek]

What games are you working on at the moment, nathkenn?

 

[Razoric]

I thought it looked fine. Pitiful reactions from the usual dips.

Ditto.

 

[Odnetnin]

I can't watch this at work.. so can I ask something? Does it look better or worse than ATI's realtime demonstration called 'Ruby' used in the R420 launch?

All thing considered (crowd + particles)... better. That aside, Ruby looks less blurry/clean and well, the animation. ...

Nathkenn. Of course you have to remove data from the original mocap. It'd be unusable otherwise. Mocap always have to be cleaned up because the code can be better optimised and also because its never quite correct. Animators have to go in there and clean up the motion so its usable.

 

[nathkenn]

What games are you working on at the moment, nathkenn?

Just madden ng, and dont ask anything about it because I can't say

I worked on the last nascar a little bit but it was just like photoshopping little texture and logo junk.

 

[DCX]

Just madden ng, and dont ask anything about it because I can't say

Tib' doesn't work on much other than NCAA, Madden and NASCAR, which by the way i can just imagine what a next gen NASCAR would be like....

DCX

 

[Blimblim]

Just madden ng, and dont ask anything about it because I can't say

Just one question, I'd understand if you could not reply but it's general enough I'd say. Is the next gen Madden a pretty much separate product from the current gen one? Or do they share lots of stuff?

 

[u_neek]

Just madden ng, and dont ask anything about it because I can't say

Okay, but please make the grass look real like in the video..

And tell the FIFA guys to do that as well

 

[DMczaf]

Tib' doesn't work on much other than NCAA, Madden and NASCAR, which by the way i can just imagine what a next gen NASCAR would be like....

DCX

...and Superman.

 

[DCX]

...and Superman.

With that license we can only pray...becuase it hasn't been lucky at all in the world of videogames.

DCX

 

[nathkenn]

Just one question, I'd understand if you could not reply but it's general enough I'd say. Is the next gen Madden a pretty much separate product from the current gen one? Or do they share lots of stuff?

I think it was mentioned in the ign article the teams are seperate other than that i cant go into specifics

 

[pestul]

...and Superman.

Sorry about not returning last night DM.. friend called and demanded we play CS:S w/voice.

I may be busy tonight too, depending on whether or not they demand to come over for a BBQ.

 

[DMczaf]

Sorry about not returning last night DM.. friend called and demanded we play CS:S w/voice.

I may be busy tonight too, depending on whether or not they demand to come over for a BBQ.

 

[Razoric]

I think it was mentioned in the ign article the teams are seperate other than that i cant go into specifics

Maybe you can answer this...

Judging from the negative reactions of how Madden won't be better than this "visual target" and how the animations seem stiff will a lot of GAers be eating crow when we see the actual game in motion?

 

[nathkenn]

Maybe you can answer this...

Judging from the negative reactions of how Madden won't be better than this "visual target" and how the animations seem stiff will a lot of GAers be eating crow when we see the actual game in motion?

oh yes

 

[DCX]

oh yes

hmmm....that makes me smile I wonder what the lead platform is...i have a feeling Nathkenn knows alot of what is going to be going on next gen with 360/PS3 and REV.

DCX

 

[u_neek]

oh yes

Great, that's all we need to know..

Now, release the game this year and we'll all be happy..



Fuck, I love my avatar, it makes me smile every time I look at it.. : :lol

 

[nathkenn]

hmmm....that makes me smile I wonder what the lead platform is...i have a feeling Nathkenn knows alot of what is going to be going on next gen with 360/PS3 and REV.

DCX

yeah and it sucks not being able to talk about it. oh well
I wish I knew what other developers were doing though
It's going to be awesome

 

[pestul]

Great, that's all we need to know..

Now, release the game this year and we'll all be happy..



Fuck, I love my avatar, it makes me smile every time I look at it.. : :lol

I like it too.. it'd be better w/o the uneek in it though.

 

[PhatSaqs]

yeah and it sucks not being able to talk about it. oh well
I wish I knew what other developers were doing though
It's going to be awesome

X360?

 

[nathkenn]

Just madden ng, and dont ask anything about it because I can't say

^^^

 

[pestul]

nathan has to be careful, no doubt EA security is watching this thread like hawks. :O

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

I wasn't impressed with the animation, and also I can see why the Tiburon didn't want the vid to be seen. I'm glad they feel it will look better.

 

[sly]

Hawt! Looks way better than the crappy Madden ad. I'm sure she animates much better too! :lol Who is she?

 

[dorio]

nathan has to be careful, no doubt EA security is watching this thread like hawks. :O

:lol Screw the haters, if the game comes close to looking as good as that commercial then I'm there day one especially if the game comes out this year.

 

[gofreak]

X360?

I think he was talking about next-gen in general (since he was replying to a comment about that) Of course it'll be awesome!

As for the ad..well I'm not a big American footy fan (in europe), so I don't have the same enthusiasm for the game as others might, but I thought it was decent enough relative to my expectations before seeing it. Obviously it looks great compared to what we have now, but I feel we'll see much better still next-gen I can see where the animation comments are coming from..animation is one thing I want to see take a massive leap up next gen.

 

[Ferrarisimo]

nathan has to be careful, no doubt EA security is watching this thread like hawks. :O

Believe this news!

 

[DarthMungKei]

I too have seen the next gen hotness. I too work for EA. I probably get to see a bit more then nathan, and everything is super tight lipped everywhere.

 

[radrelic]

Commercial was OK but nothing spectacular.

I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with the next-gen Madden until EA's exclusitivity deal expires. No matter how good they make Madden, I'll always be wondering in the back of my head what Visual Concepts could've done with a next-gen football game.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Hawt! Looks way better than the crappy Madden ad. I'm sure she animates much better too! :lol Who is she?

Ester Baxter? Music Video Honey.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Commercial was OK but nothing spectacular.

I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with the next-gen Madden until EA's exclusitivity deal expires. No matter how good they make Madden, I'll always be wondering in the back of my head what Visual Concepts could've done with a next-gen football game.

I concur.

 

[sprsk]

jesus christ how many ea employees do we have on this board anyway.

 

[DMczaf]

jesus christ how many ea employees do we have on this board anyway.

Get ready for the EA buyout, GAF!

 

[Lord Error]

I thought it looked very good, like 100x better than current gen madden. You people are so hard to please,heh.

I thought the same. If the real game is anything like this, it will be pretty awesome.

 

[Keyser Soze]

After much watching and looking and examining I am....[snip]

Score one for the grass lover’s amongst us though!

 

[rastex]

I too have seen the next gen hotness. I too work for EA. I probably get to see a bit more then nathan, and everything is super tight lipped everywhere.

hahahha really?

Man, I took my friend through my area and nobody cared.

 

[gofreak]

hahahha really?

Man, I took my friend through my area and nobody cared.

Can I be your friend?

 

[impirius]

Get ready for the EA buyout, GAF!

Announcement on Monday

 

[midnightguy]

Next Gen Madden video
download

 

[nathkenn]

hahahha really?

Man, I took my friend through my area and nobody cared.

cool glad to see devs on here, but everyone is in other states and countries. I need to meet some more people at tib. I'm always so busy I dont get to talk to people much outside my team.

 

[u_neek]

Next Gen Madden video
download

Thank you so much!! Didn't see the link on page 1!

 

[Mrbob]

Just saw the video. The models and enviroment look fantastic. The only thing that didn't look upgraded was the stiff animation which looks like it was pulled over from the PS2 version. I hope this will be addressed with the final version and it sounds like it will.

 

[Kleegamefan]

DarthMungKei, looking at your profile, it seems you are from EA Canada!!!!

*on hands and knees*

Have you seen the Xbox 360 version of SSX4?

I am hoping it is like Madden Xbox 360??...that is, the name is the same as the XBOX/PS2 game, but it is being developed with XBOX 360 in mind......in otherwords, very little art assets are being shared??

I would hate for it to just be SSX4 but in 720p..

Please throw us some kind of bone here??

 

[Koshiro]

Okay I hate EA and I don't give a crap about American Football, and I was loading up this movie expecting a shambles, but it doesn't look bad at all. Personally I want original gameplay instead of 'better graphics', but people complaining about this ad need to step back from the computer and go take a break.

 

[DopeyFish]

DarthMungKei, looking at your profile, it seems you are from EA Canada!!!!

*on hands and knees*

Have you seen the Xbox 360 version of SSX4?

I am hoping it is like Madden Xbox 360??...that is, the name is the same as the XBOX/PS2 game, but it is being developed with XBOX 360 in mind......in otherwords, very little art assets are being shared??

I would hate for it to just be SSX4 but in 720p..

Please throw us some kind of bone here??

No one cares about SSX, NHL! NHL!

 

[Mrbob]

I drool at the thought of playing SSX4 on Xbox 360.