You can't just say your gambit, Ouro, come on now. Then it wouldn't be a gambit.
It's certainly not making you look good. Either you get lynched tonight or you continue to look pretty scummy.
You can't just say your gambit, Ouro, come on now. Then it wouldn't be a gambit.
One way to read his becky use was to ensure you were saved from lynching. It was in favour of bat at that point. He did also vote for you though (which again points to neutral if you flip anything other than mafia)
Basically if you flip town it removes any sort of doubt from my mind that LP is mafia, and makes me reasonably confident he's a neutral/town.
However, the main reason I don't suspect LP is because he used his ability when he didn't have to; batsnacks was going down hard. Another mafia player would probably have told him not to use it.
I think you're just afraid to keep me around, because I've noticed something scary about you.
How I flip will cast a new light on others. I don't doubt that. But give it another Day, and it will be even more rewarding.
If you don't, Sorian...I think you're going to get burned...
It's certainly not making you look good. Either you get lynched tonight or you continue to look pretty scummy.
As reluctant as I am to say this, LaunchPadMcQ makes a good point about that here:
I also doubt L_P is some other kind of Neutral scum, because having a one-shot would be really pathetic as a Neutral, and a multiple-use Day Vig seems unlikely.
IMO, that kind of power is a Town power.
"Looking scummy" is not my concern. You already see that I'm more than willing to fight against that. I will get chased by the dogs if I have to - I'm here with a plan.
If you notice my giant post a bit back in the thread, I'd argue you haven't done a whole lot of "defense." It's really mostly being "aloof" to what's going on, like you've got everyone where you want them to be.
If you notice my giant post a bit back in the thread, I'd argue you haven't done a whole lot of "defense." It's really mostly being "aloof" to what's going on, like you've got everyone where you want them to be.
Don't forget you're scum, so try to act town. Lynch a town PR or something.
Blargonaut [m] - See my Bold Prediction under Salva. Blarg is worrying me because this isn't normal Blarg posting. This is a Blarg that wants to live and not get policy lynched because of mass confusion. It's just Blarg enough to be Blarg but not Blarg enough that you can't read the posts. Honestly, I'm reading this as either Blarg has attained a new form because he wants to stick around in games longer or he had to tone it back because he is finally a bad guy. Verdict:Another day
Burbeting [m] - Quiet but when you are here, YOU. ARE. HERE. You might even have a big post waiting once I get out of this one. You keep up with the thread when you can and add your thoughts in a clear and concise manner. I have no read on you yet because your first post was more summary than thoughts but I expect you to pick up as more happens. Verdict: Wait and see approach
Fireblend [m] - I don't have a lot to say on Fire but if him and Bats or scum then he is starting that bussing process early. Fire has been the little voice urging me on a few times in this thread. I'm inclined to trust him on nothing more than gut feeling right now but there always comes a time where I have to question the voices in my head. Verdict: Keep offering insight
Blargonaut [m] It feels like Blarg has some legitimate things to say about the game, but for some strange reason he wants to say those by posting them in an really unneeded cluttered manner. He was one of the more vocal defenders of Bats during the late vanilla day 1. I feel really divided about him in general. He has good ideas and thoughts, but he posts them in sometimes so weird manner that its just frustrating to read his posts and try to make sense of them. Also not really of the way he keeps doing vote spamming.
Verdict: For now leans to town, but man, I would love if you could write in bit more cohesive manner.
Sorian [m] One of the Four Turboposters (others are Launch, Ouro and Blarg). I have to admit that I have no enthusiasm to read through all of his around 350 posts or so. In general he has been quite contributive player, which makes me mostly think that he is more likely town-aligned. Its day 1 though, so its bit hard to say for sure. There is quite a lot of filler in there though.
Verdict: Feels more town for now. Posts ridiculous amounts, not sure if its even a good thing really.
Fireblend [m] Like few others, he is blending in the game, not giving too much contributions. His posts arent fillery, but at the same time they havent really brought anything new to the table either. As I noted earlier, Im bit vary of people in day 1 who feel like they blend in, since Scum could want to do that. But at the same time, I do feel that Fireblend has not done anything overtly scummy other than being really kind of invicible.
Verdict: Town-ish, but suspecting.
Town: Cabbeh, Sorian, Ourobolos, Blargonaut
Town, but with Scum possibility: Lone_Prodigy (depends on Karkador)
Neutral or Not Enough Info: TheGoddamn, Karkador, Launchpad, RetroMG
Suspecting at least a bit because blending: roytheone, Darryl, Fireblend, SalvaPot
Blargonaut [m] Started so well and went back to his old ways as soon as the end of the day approached, which coincided with both people talking about how he seemed reformed and votes started to solidify. He's an enigma to me. I think he has some real insight into the game and can read people really well, but if he's not willing to be an asset to town, or is hiding a scum identity behind his mad posts (specially his teasing of Launch and the vote confusion he was attempting to create) I think he's more of a liability than anything. I defended him early in the thread because it seemed to me like he was being forthright and contributive, but after today's display I wouldn't be willing to bet on his goodwill anymore.
Sorian [m] Very contributive, seemingly very pro-town. Mostly avoided taking part in the Kark-Launch-Bat debacle which allowed him to make some comments as an observer solidifying those 3 as the "players to watch" for day 1. If they all end up flipping town I'd honestly be a bit worried about him potentially focusing on them 3 as easy targets in order to remove attention from himself while commenting on players who pretty much lined up to be lynched. In Cthulhu I found his excessive posting aggravating, but in this game it feels like he's doing it to keep up, since there are other similarly active players. He throws some wild theories from time to time. I have no idea for example how he came up with the idea that Kark may have a PR of some sort.
Burbeting [m] He hasn't posted that much but yet he has gained a ton of trust with his contributions. Regardless of whether he's town or not, he plays how I'd like to play. Still, his posts feel somewhat judgey and removed from the action, as if he was just observing what's going on without engaging much, making sure he's at a distance from the action. It's only day 1 and I can't expect everyone to be a major actor this early but I do find it curious how he managed to gain trust early on with the early Darryl proto-bandwagon.
People I feel I can trust for now: Sorian, Cabbeh, Launch
People that have left me expecting more from them: RetroMG, Darryl
People I don't feel super about: Kark, Salva
I don't have super strong feelings about anyone else.
Karkador [m] - I still think I read what you were trying to do correctly and that's why I wanted to attempt to lynch you today. batsnacks has drawn enough of my attention that I think it is fair to go down that road first now and you seem to agree. If I'm wrong about you then no big loss but if I'm right, you will be the perfect lynch candidate on a day where we don't have much to go on. Verdict: Still deciding who should go first, cabbeh or Kark
LaunchpadMcQ [m] - No hard feelings m8? I enjoyed your tunnel game on Kark and I know I'm giving you a hard time but the way you handled it reads as town to me. You fell in on a mistake but you eventually backed down when it stopped making sense after holding on to it for awhile. I know you might still end up voting for Kark today and that is 100% a-ok because you might be right but you've started seeing the other views which I don't think you were doing before. I do now honestly believe that you and Kark are barking up the wrong tree on each other but let's see how day 1 ends. My opinion could change pretty easily on the love triangle. Verdict: Town
Karkador [m] Karkador is a problematic figure for me. Ive talked about his earlier stunt multiple times now, but I will say it again: I dont understand his earlier stunt from either Town nor Scum perspective. If he is Town, he is just drawing unneeded attention, making himself a big fat target and also possibly give Mafia hints. But if he is scum, it would be stupif for a scum to basically give himself for a sarcrifice. I know Launch has told me multiple times Scum wants to subvert expectations, but I still cant see how scum would want endanger himself so visibly. Looking past his stunt, Kark hasnt done anything really substansial in the thread at least in my eyes. Lot of posts, but most of them have been on the short side, and he has seemed oddly whatever about his life or death status in general, to the point that he has even voted himself multiple times, last time at the extended day 1. Would a scum really be this relaxed about his status of life and death? First time he could have been sure that LP would save him from trouble, but why is he so care-free now in the extended period as well? I dont know, something stinks here.
Verdict: Im going to say neutral here. The stunt and his later actions could really go either way. Something is really odd about his attitude in this game.
LaunchpadMcQ [m] One of the four turboposters. Also one of the love triangle also known as Launchy-Karka-Batsy. One of them is confirmed to be town, so naturally sights go to Launch. Whats interesting that he has seemed to be utterly confident on his scum reads so far, even though he was saying earlier that day 1 is dismissable. He went as far with his earlier Karka obsession that he signed the weird form Sorian made. Then with Batsnacks he was again super sure that he is scum as well. In general Launch has felt like the leading force of the day together with the other super-hyper-poster, Sorian. Something about him feels off, but I really cant pinpoint what it is.
Verdict: Neutral-ish, something about him is problematic to me. Is also one of the two living participants in the love-triangle.
Karkador [m] I mentioned him earlier as one of my suspected players but then again that's not a particularly unique opinion to have. His roleclaim and sacrifice offer was silly; he could have seen early on there was no point to defending a no-lynch day 1, and from any perspective offering to yourself as a sacrifice *and* role-claiming is a detriment to whichever faction you're playing for. Maybe he's a neutral player, but I tend to think neutral players are often encouraged to gain some trust from other players before attempting to satisfy their win condition, and I don't think a tanner-like win condition is likely in this game. He could have also offered himself to see who'd vote for him, but I don't think we'll get solid reads from that strategy unless we lynch either him or Launch. I think he's town.
LaunchpadMcQ [m] I already said I feel he's well-intentioned even though he was aggressive when pushing against Kark. If we lynch Kark and he flips town I'd just call the "triangle" theory a wash and not pursue Launch much honestly; I don't feel he's been particularly out of line, and there's people like Salva or Blarg that I trust much less because of the tone of their posts. Anyway, back to Launch, I trust for now he's a town who became convinced of Kark being scum and his willingness to keep an eye on him and accept responsibility for whatever comes out of lynching him makes me think well of him.
Yes, this. Every time he posts a "defense", it's mostly to through shade on other players.
Who do you think is the best lynch choice today, Ouro, if not Kark?
I have a bad feeling something will happen when we lynch him...
I don't really have any STRONG feelings towards anyone else, really. Salva and Sorian are my next two on the list. Blarg's near the top too - the rambling isn't helping, and while he's been focusing on you for most of the day I don't see much actual content.
VOTE: Burbeting
Let's get some actual work done.
Lol.
I was waiting to see what your reaction was. You'll do anything to snake away.
Except I was the one who brought those people up in the first place, snake eater
Except you're willingly signing up for a turbo.
Checkmate.
Hello, hello.
Sorry, I'm in the US so I didn't even see my PM till this morning. Typing up some fresh reads for you guys right now.
I also know that Sorian is using me in a way the other two aren't, which is why he's the only one out of the three who hasn't asked me to tone my antics down.
So you guys are voting for Burb because he contributes infrequently, but provides decent reads?
VOTE: Karkador
No. No. No, no no no no.
No.
No.
No No No.
Fucking No.
Blarg's post is interesting, but throughout one key thing is clear: Burb misses the logic he's following a couple of times, and these misses highlight he's actually being more genuine.
If I absolutely had to vote for one of those three, it'd be Fireblend.
Let's go after good contributors because...they all see good contributions from each other?
Hell, they all three of them say at some point they trust me, so why not eh?
UNVOTE
VOTE: cabbeh
Fucking worst.
So you guys are voting for Burb because he contributes infrequently, but provides decent reads?
Actually, this is a good point
VOTE: Fireblend
Blargonaut said:I especially don't like them liking me at all. They all think that I, one of the biggest distractions in the game thus far, am FunTown. But wait, isn't distracting people during the Daytime exactly what NoFun wants and pines for? Seems kinda strange to me that all three of them don't want me dead just yet, especially after all the filthy, filthy bullshots I've passed around. There's NoFun amongst them, I feel it. I also know that Sorian is using me in a way the other two aren't, which is why he's the only one out of the three who hasn't asked me to tone my antics down.
Blargonaut [m] Started so well and went back to his old ways as soon as the end of the day approached, which coincided with both people talking about how he seemed reformed and votes started to solidify. He's an enigma to me. I think he has some real insight into the game and can read people really well, but if he's not willing to be an asset to town, or is hiding a scum identity behind his mad posts (specially his teasing of Launch and the vote confusion he was attempting to create) I think he's more of a liability than anything. I defended him early in the thread because it seemed to me like he was being forthright and contributive, but after today's display I wouldn't be willing to bet on his goodwill anymore.
Sorry, you just haven't posted any puzzles today so I can actually get teh meaning of your words. I'm most likely done with you when you post a puzzle unless I can actually solve this one.
That being said, why did this monster post come after Darryl told you to kill a PR?
Damn, I was hoping you'd just band wagon onto my self vote instead!
VOTE: Karkador
Vote: Blargonaut
Why would I do that? You're Town
Blarg, I think we should start with Fireblend
Too easy, it's harder to kill Burbeting.
Maybe we should just go for Sorian since there's already a collection of weird activities around him
You go after Sorian, you best be prepared.
VOTE: Karkador
No. No. No, no no no no.
No.
No.
No No No.
Fucking No.
Blarg's post is interesting, but throughout one key thing is clear: Burb misses the logic he's following a couple of times, and these misses highlight he's actually being more genuine.
If I absolutely had to vote for one of those three, it'd be Fireblend.
Let's go after good contributors because...they all see good contributions from each other?
Hell, they all three of them say at some point they trust me, so why not eh?
UNVOTE
VOTE: cabbeh
Fucking worst.
These posts, they take time
I already posted a puzzle
You go after Sorian, you best be prepared.
Oh man, I am not looking forward to what Time has to say about me...
That had nothing to do with you taking time with a post? You straight up quoted Darryl then posted that. You intended for us to read what Darryl said before reading what you wrote.