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MAGfest takes the piss out of Kotaku, gets bullied into apologizing by danger hair journos for "gamergate dogwhistling" and "making them feel unsafe"

StreetsofBeige

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Raven117 said:
They don't feel "unsafe." This is just language used to make you sound like an asshole if you don't capitulate to what they are requesting. They know this. That's why they use it.
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I'm not sure when it started, but the whole "safety first" play is common everywhere now. Read up on any union negotiation being publicly dragged through the mud. Even though thier behind closed doors demand is a 10% raise per year for 5 years, instead of saying tradition stuff like job security, there's a good chance the union will being up safety as the new era hot topic.
 
poodaddy

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cormack12 said:
Basically that image came OK screen from Yakuza I think, and the guy (Klepek) covered his eyes and wouldn't look at the screen
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Yeah I skipped ahead to that part to see why he did it like that, he just silently covered his eyes....but it's like why play the video then? Dudes a weirdo. I'm not really into soft core porn, and I'm married, but the girls they get in those Yakuza games are typically beautiful, I'm not looking the fuck away from em that's for sure.
 
cormack12

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poodaddy said:
Yeah I skipped ahead to that part to see why he did it like that, he just silently covered his eyes....but it's like why play the video then? Dudes a weirdo. I'm not really into soft core porn, and I'm married, but the girls they get in those Yakuza games are typically beautiful, I'm not looking the fuck away from em that's for sure.
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He was hoping not looking at scantily clad ladies would get him pussy
 
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Toots

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The only thing that could make me feel unsafe on the internet would be a post with my name and address or something like that. If anything else make you unsafe, you deserve to look like a complete tool so I guess life finds a way
 
StreetsofBeige

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Toots said:
The only thing that could make me feel unsafe on the internet would be a post with my name and address or something like that. If anything else make you unsafe, you deserve to look like a complete tool so I guess life finds a way
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Make sense. But you'd get over it.

My brother had his name and address publicly outed in a YT video because some weird anti-pollution liberal went on a rant and picked the wrong person with the same name. In their video they tried to get followers to form hoping to get my bro.

My bro told me and was concerned random people might come to his house. YT never took down the video either even when my bro complained to them.

Nothing happened to him or his house.
 
The Pleasure

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Raven117 said:
They don't feel "unsafe." This is just language used to make you sound like an asshole if you don't capitulate to what they are requesting. They know this. That's why they use it.
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White privilege at the fgc tournaments and the kof bodega.
 
Raven117

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StreetsofBeige said:
I'm not sure when it started, but the whole "safety first" play is common everywhere now. Read up on any union negotiation being publicly dragged through the mud. Even though thier behind closed doors demand is a 10% raise per year for 5 years, instead of saying tradition stuff like job security, there's a good chance the union will being up safety as the new era hot topic.
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Because you are an insensitive privileged asshole if you don't care about their safety. The move immediately puts you on the defensive as now, you aren't arguing about whether to take down a joke or not, you are arguing about whether you, personally, care about the "safety/feelings" of someone else....Moreover, it puts an element of risk to the position, as if something were to happen related or un-related (like some neckbeard threw a slurpee at someone), then they have been proved right and you are "liable."

It's an insidious way to argue a position.
 
DeepEnigma

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Raven117 said:
Because you are an insensitive privileged asshole if you don't care about their safety. The move immediately puts you on the defensive as now, you aren't arguing about whether to take down a joke or not, you are arguing about whether you, personally, care about the "safety/feelings" of someone else....Moreover, it puts an element of risk to the position, as if something were to happen related or un-related (like some neckbeard threw a slurpee at someone), then they have been proved right and you are "liable."

It's an insidious way to argue a position.
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It's manipulative control. NPDs do this often in toxic relationships.
 
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tomato shrub

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StreetsofBeige said:
As some people have said in the past, calling them journalists is giving way too much credit. As default, I've called them that myself. But other people have called them something more accurate.... bloggers.

Just because someone posts something in print does not make them a journalist. Hardly anyone would call people who do YT videos journalists. But a gaming guy uploading a text article on the same topic is a journalist? Dont think so.

That's like saying my buddy who ran a game site 10 years ago after dinner is a journalist because he and his group of buddies posted game reviews and opinion pieces on video game news.

For the gaming workers who have been in the industry a long time and do actual research and can be labeled journalists, the reason why so many are so smarmy is the nature of the industry. Look at it. It's got weird video game developers, hyperspastic gamers, lots of game site workers are weird to start with, and the so-called video game journalist relies on click bait hits and tweets for survival. And none of them went to journalism school to learn about the actual profession. So you can see why they act so wildly.

It's literally a bunch of people who grew up playing video games and wing off articles. Thats not to say the content is bad. I read sports articles. Nobody says each one of them has to had played organized sports or went to college to get an arts degree in journalism in order to have good content, but it sure seems reporting is so much more professional in other industries.
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Yep, they are bloggers, or simply game reviewers. Who for some reason usually suck at playing games. But the bar keeps getting lower. When they were getting fire from the same mob, I remember Geoff Keighley and even GameXplain were said to have betrayed their journalistic profession... Like, you're talking about a fanboy channel that got big by re-uploading Nintendo trailers and a PR internet show host. :messenger_tears_of_joy: The term "journalism" has zero meaning in gaming discourse. The best work of actual gaming journalism I've seen is the exposure of retro gaming fraud... in a video made by a speedrunning YouTuber - while sites like Kotaku only helped the retro game scammers by spreading their PR without any journalistic critique.
 
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GHound

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Kotaku is part of the cesspit of video game "journalism" that shouldn't even be mocked but outright ignored, shunned and erased from the greater subconcious of humanity.
 
Fatbody

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I remember way back in the day when I was a (mostly lurking) member of the old gamers.com -> 1up.com forums. The boards were slowly losing some members do to the rise in social media, but there still was a strong core community there that went back to the turn of the millennium times. Towards the end of the website’s life, a young Klepek shows up on the scene as a community manager or something. On his first day in that role, he goes on a massive perma-banning crusade for every minor infraction without any heads up or warning. It was a bloodbath. He had absolutely no mercy, and I even remember him banning some gay dudes for playfully calling each other the “F Slur”.

This was the nail in the coffin for boards.1up.com. After the website later imploded, there was nothing resembling a community left to migrate anywhere else or start their own thing. That was his legacy as a “community manger.” On day one, he nuked a close-knit community he was paid to interact with and rarely, if ever, posted anything. Funny enough all he ever did was post here on Neogaf as a 1up employee.
 
Crayon

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anthony2690 said:
What is gamergate?
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It was essentially a controversy that turned into... I guess it just turned into a big controversy that went on longer than it should have.

It was sort of the beginning of our modern woke Zeitgeist. A girl was making videos criticizing video games with feminist points. It was fine. It was one of those things where if you don't like it just don't watch it. Then some people made a stink about that, then a bunch of people started calling that side Nazis and blah blah blah. Now it's well past the time just to let the s*** go.
 
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anthony2690

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Crayon said:
It was essentially a controversy that turned into... I guess it just turned into a big controversy that went on longer than it should have.

It was sort of the beginning of our modern woke Zeitgeist. A girl was making videos criticizing video games with feminist points. It was fine. It was one of those things where if you don't like it just don't watch it. Then some people made a stink about that, then a bunch of people started calling that side Nazis and blah blah blah. Now it's well past the time just to let the s*** go
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Ah sounds like trivial stuff I probably want nothing to do with tbh.
 
Esca

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I don't understand how this can make one feel un
Safe. I think people need to be put in real unsafe situations so they know what that actually feels like. Not this bullshit
 
CosmicComet

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Bragr said:
It's from the Anita Sarkisian days, a bunch of people championed women in games and a bunch of gamers attacked them over it. Gamergate is a term for a group of people who attack people with misogynistic comments and sometimes racism. It's viewed as a hostile internet hate group.

One of the reasons there is pushback against it is because the victims of it were people like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian, who also harassed and attacked people. And the people who use Gamergate, like in this instance Kotaku fans, use it in a manner where it shouldn't be used.

So for some, Gamergate is internet hate against certain groups of people, mostly women and people of color, and for others, it's a way to attack others with little substance, as people do right now against these organizers. It's complicated.
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LMAO
 
Dick Jones

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Magfest should have apologised and at the same tweet ask Kotaku to comment on how it allowed cgi kiddy porn on its site intentionally.
 
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Henry Panic

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Fake said:
Case to case, IDK why bring such a poor comparison of things here. If was that joke you mention, of course would be bad, but was not even close to this deegree.

BTW, Kotaku make this article before they even notice the joke inside the event.






I never said that the answer make sense. I just pointing the patern here. I would suggest you to look at google for more information.

Again, is a Twitter thing to accuse someone of something without real argument.
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Googling is not going to give me context as to why a person who criticizes an infamous game outlet, means the person who did so is immediately associated with GG whether they are or not.

Not sure why I can't get a short summary of why that is.
 
Fake

Fake

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Henry Panic said:
Googling is not going to give me context as to why a person who criticizes an infamous game outlet, means the person who did so is immediately associated with GG whether they are or not.

Not sure why I can't get a short summary of why that is.
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Nothing beat Google when you're looking for answers.
 
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SaintALia

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Crayon said:
It was essentially a controversy that turned into... I guess it just turned into a big controversy that went on longer than it should have.

It was sort of the beginning of our modern woke Zeitgeist. A girl was making videos criticizing video games with feminist points. It was fine. It was one of those things where if you don't like it just don't watch it. Then some people made a stink about that, then a bunch of people started calling that side Nazis and blah blah blah. Now it's well past the time just to let the s*** go
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It started before that, with Zoe Quinn iirc. Something about her giving sexual favours for good publicity or review scores or something. People made a big stink about it and 'ethics in game journalism' and all that. Which was a good debate in how favouritism and 'incest'(journos being too involved with indie devs or studios) plays a role in review scores or how some of them do migrate to these studios sometimes. But I think that debate and talking point was flushed down the toilet when it was apparent the misogyny and gate keeping that was seeping through the discussions. Anita was doing her thing before that all happened, but it got worse after. Also Zoe Quinn had nudes or something, and she was in a weird relationship with two of the people involved(as in if the details of it mattered or not), but I forgot how that played a part, if any, in all the proceedings.

I don't recall the 'Nazi' stuff, but I do recall the misogyny, and it was pretty hefty. Now I think 'Gamergater' gets thrown on misogynists in gaming, or for people who gatekeep gaming, which tbf, gaming is quite flooded with, it just gets ignored most of the time.

"modern woke"
Funny seeing this, especially considering the term 'woke' is very old, and was already made fun of like 20-30 years ago as well. But I guess these days, it's taken on so many meanings beyond what it originally was going for. Still though, it beats being lectured by someone wearing made in China dashikis/kofi/beads.
 
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FeralEcho

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SJRB said:
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Look at this little bitch. Scared of a poster. "But words hurt, mom!", he cried into the phone with his tiresome mother while hiding in the genderneutral toilet.


[How's that for dogwhistling, you cretin. Deliberately stirring up controversy for clout, fuck off with that shit]
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I'm gonna print that picture,stick it on my toilet seat and take a big fat dookie right on that shit eating grin...

"Unsafe"...Jesus Christ these people are so pathetic.

Also that big ass forehead is like a fucking riot shield, what's he so afraid of!?
He can block ballistic missiles with that shit!
 
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