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[Simply Sarah]

Aside from the card, this does seem to indicate that the "pay 0 instead of" formatting is a change to how "do it for free" effects are templated.

 

[Santiako]

A good card for standard and a very odd card for brewers.

 

[kirblar]

That card seems real good in ramp.

 

[Son1x]

I like both the artifact removal and UG enchantment. The latter especially.

 

[DrArchon]

I'm trying to read Bounty of the Luxa right. Does it just alternate between "free card" and "free mana"? I think the "remove all flood counters" line is throwing me off, because it doesn't look like it can get more than one without proliferate.

 

[GoutPatrol]

I'm trying to read Bounty of the Luxa right. Does it just alternate between "free card" and "free mana"? I think the "remove all flood counters" line is throwing me off, because it doesn't look like it can get more than one without proliferate.

It doesn't look like it does anything with more counters.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I'm trying to read Bounty of the Luxa right. Does it just alternate between "free card" and "free mana"? I think the "remove all flood counters" line is throwing me off, because it doesn't look like it can get more than one without proliferate.

Yeah, it makes you remove them all so that you can't force it to stay in the "add mana" mode perpetually. If it just said "remove a flood counter," you could snek it up and you'd basically have a Thran Dynamo.

 

[kirblar]

I'm trying to read Bounty of the Luxa right. Does it just alternate between "free card" and "free mana"? I think the "remove all flood counters" line is throwing me off, because it doesn't look like it can get more than one without proliferate.

Yes. Its to avoid exactly that interaction when opponents play proliferate cards.

 

[Son1x]

I'm trying to read Bounty of the Luxa right. Does it just alternate between "free card" and "free mana"? I think the "remove all flood counters" line is throwing me off, because it doesn't look like it can get more than one without proliferate.

Yea thats pretty much it. Proliferate doesn't really do anything.

 

[Lucario]

Drawing a card every other turn and ramping by three mana on your other turns would've been a very strong card at 2GU in a lot of other Standard environments. That's nine mana on turn 6 if you hit your land drops.

It requires a bit of planning ahead, but the power level is absolutely there. It's very easy to turn this into an early Ulamog.

...Shame this isn't the sort of standard environment where you can drop 3-6 mana artifacts or enchantments with no immediate impact. We've been getting a lot of sweet ones, and they've been pushed pretty far since Kaladesh.

Past few years have been a golden age for Johnny-focused set design.

 

[Simply Sarah]

I'm trying to read Bounty of the Luxa right. Does it just alternate between "free card" and "free mana"? I think the "remove all flood counters" line is throwing me off, because it doesn't look like it can get more than one without proliferate.

You're reading it right. The "removal all" part has been used a few times on cards that use counters to represent a binary condition that flips back and forth. For example, see Freyalise's Winds all the way back in Ice Age and Temporal Distortion in Invasion. And by "for example" I mean those are the only ones I can think of...both which predate proliferate.

 

[DrArchon]

OK, I just wanted to make sure. Makes perfect sense to not have it be potentially busted in any proliferate EDH decks (I'd still use it in one because hey, free cards and mana though).

 

[Violet_0]

flavor-wise Bounty of the Luxa is easily the best card of the set so far

 

[Santiako]

So we already have Tutankhamon and Cleopatra, any guesses who the rest of the viziers will be based on?

 

[Violet_0]

Nefertiti

 

[Transhuman]

flavor-wise Bounty of the Luxa is easily the best card of the set so far

If you can put additional counters on it's the tits

 

[Santiako]

If you can put additional counters on it's the tits

Additional counters do nothing.

 

[DrArchon]

So we already have Tutankhamon and Cleopatra, any guesses who the rest of the viziers will be based on?

Ramses II

 

[The Technomancer]

A good card for standard and a very odd card for brewers.

If this did anything the turn you played it it would be amazing. As it is, its very very...intriguing

 

[divisionbyzorro]

If this did anything the turn you played it it would be amazing. As it is, its very very...intriguing

If you can somehow put it into play in your upkeep it'll draw you a card in your main phase!

 

[Santiako]

Seems all angels are dudes here.

 

[Transhuman]

Additional counters do nothing.

 

[Simply Sarah]

Seems all angels are dudes here.

It looks like Serra was way better at making angels than Bolas is.

Edit:
It's a camel but it's not immune to damage from Deserts, so I'd say that makes the original or others more unlikely.

 

[OnPoint]

 

[Ozigizo]

Ramses II

When you play him, do you get a slab?

 

[Poppy]

can you twincast the sunrise card and win instantly, since you hold priority and the twincast copy resolves first? i assume not because copying a spell doesnt count as casting it right

 

[DrArchon]

When you play him, do you get a slab?

"When Ramses II comes into play, target opponent gets a legendary artifact Slab token with 'At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 1 life'.

Ramses II can only attack opponents that control a legendary artifact slab."

 

[Yeef]

can you twincast the sunrise card and win instantly, since you hold priority and the twincast copy resolves first? i assume not because copying a spell doesnt count as casting it right

Correct.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Surprised to see male angels too. I suppose flavor wise, this is where Maloch comes from, but his mechanics prevent him from being reprinted.

The flavor text of Winged Shepard supports that Hour of Devastation involves Bolas destroying the barrier and letting the desert in. Presumably, the Gatewatch will help awaken green and blue leylines or something to provide more oases and thus provide shelter even without the barrier.

 

[kirblar]

The original rationale for the "NO BOY ANGELS/ALL BOY DEMONS" rule (biblical angels are all male, succubi are a problem) just didn't make sense in a world where the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show is a thing. Glad to see it gone.

 

[Santiako]

MaRo just confirmed there's three planeswalkers in Amonkhet, and we already have the art for Nissa :/

also, this:

zwomally sent: We have another Standard environment with a top level Lilliana and Gideon. I get you want to push the Gatewatch but the same ones is a little tiring.

Maro: When we started with the Gatewatch storyline, we began with the assumption that the Gatewatch, the core five, at least, should always be represented on planeswalker cards in Standard. (And remember Standard was 18 months at the time.) As we started to roll this plan out, we got feedback from many of you that this was problematic.
Yes, you wanted Gatewatch planeswalkers but we didn't need to do them so often. You wanted the opportunity to see other favorites return or have new planeswalkers in some of those slots.
We heard you, but we work far ahead so there's always a gap before you can see us react to feedback. Hours of Devastation was the first set that we could revamp how we did this. So starting with Hour, we've pulled back significantly on how often Gatewatch planeswalkers appear. They'll appear when it's important but at a much slower rate. We will use those slots instead to do more returning and new planeswalkers.

Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Surprised to see male angels too. I suppose flavor wise, this is where Maloch comes from, but his mechanics prevent him from being reprinted.

The flavor text of Winged Shepard supports that Hour of Devastation involves Bolas destroying the barrier and letting the desert in. Presumably, the Gatewatch will help awaken green and blue leylines or something to provide more oases and thus provide shelter even without the barrier.

I had no idea that was a thing.

I also hope that doesn't happen. I need Hour of Devastation to be an outright loss.

MaRo just confirmed there's three planeswalkers in Amonkhet, and we already have the art for Nissa :/

also, this:



Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

Now that's some good news.

 

[Simply Sarah]

MaRo just confirmed there's three planeswalkers in Amonkhet, and we already have the art for Nissa :/

also, this:



Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

Happening sooner than I thought I would. I knew they got the message that people didn't want all-Gatewatch, all-the-time but I'd thought maybe that wouldn't happen until the next block.

 

[Infinite Stars]

MaRo just confirmed there's three planeswalkers in Amonkhet, and we already have the art for Nissa :/

also, this:



Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

Thank the gods of Amonkhet.

Like, I don't mind one or two Gatewatch Members in a block (So like Jace and Lili in SoI, or even Nissa/Ajani/Chandra) but when we have 3 fucking Nissas all released in Standard sets it borders on insane.

I still think the best way to force them to scale down the Gatewatch Involvement is by giving each Gatewatch member a Decidious Mechanic that has to appear on X number of Cards.

 

[aidan]

MaRo just confirmed there's three planeswalkers in Amonkhet, and we already have the art for Nissa :/

also, this:



Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

Huzzah! Great way to start off the weekend.

 

[The Technomancer]

Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

Oh thank god

 

[Ashodin]

I mean, that was obvious to anyone; next set is Nick bolas and another Tezzeret.

 

[charlequin]

The original rationale for the "NO BOY ANGELS/ALL BOY DEMONS" rule (biblical angels are all male, succubi are a problem) just didn't make sense in a world where the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show is a thing. Glad to see it gone.

Yeah, I mean, the genesis for this rule at the time it was introduced was good, and as a general thing the female angels were a very effective brand-distinguishing strategy (you see a female warrior angel with something like sword and armor and it instantly brings MTG to mind) but it's definitely past the point they should be treating it as something they can't mix up sometimes. I'd guess we'll still see it as the default now but they'll be more open to having worlds where it isn't the rule.

Starting with Hour of Devastation, they'll be cutting down significantly on the amount of times the Gatewatch 5 show up as pw cards in the sets.

This is fantastic news.

 

[y2dvd]

Bounty of the Luxa seems pretty slow, and it forces you to play something on MP1 to take advantage of the mana. Seems pretty bad.

 

[OnPoint]

When is the full spoiler, next week?

 

[Santiako]

When is the full spoiler, next week?

Next Friday yes.

 

[jph139]

I mean, that was obvious to anyone; next set is Nick bolas and another Tezzeret.

Nah, I think it'll be Bolas and a native. Maybe a dude who passed all the trials and is the new go-to hitguy for Bolas. W/B maybe, to replace Sorin?

 

[The Technomancer]

Wait shit is pre-release next weekend or the weekend after?

 

[Santiako]

Wait shit is pre-release next weekend or the weekend after?

The one after (22-23). Full spoiler is always a week before prerelease.

 

[Ashodin]

Wait shit is pre-release next weekend or the weekend after?

Next weekend is the open house. Then the weekend after is Amonkhet pre.

This weekend? Nada.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Fuck the Gatewatch I hope they gave saheeli another chance immediately.

 

[OnPoint]

Didn't Saheeli turn them down? Forgive me, I can't remember the details.

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

I want more Chandras, but thats just me.

I really like the oaths, so more people joining the Gatewatch would get me more of them right?

 

[OnPoint]

I want more Chandras, but thats just me.

I really like the oaths, so more people joining the Gatewatch would get me more of them right?

I would imagine every oath in story comes with a card.

I want to see a card where someone breaks their oath.

 

[Haly]

Any chance of an Astral Slide reprint?

I would imagine every oath in story comes with a card.

I want to see a card where someone breaks their oath.

Maybe one set where the Gatewatch have a falling out and they all "break their oaths", each one leading to a "broken oath" card.

After seeing Twitch Presents Power Rangers I can't help but feel Magic now revolves around their own Power Rangers.