Aw, shame. Was planning on getting one for Ixalan if they made one. Guess I'll go pick up the Kaladesh or SOI box.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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What if he becomes a god?
That seems unlikely. From what I recall, the Leonin were basically the only atheistic peoples on Theros. It'd be a little strange for their king to become a god.
Mayael. Done.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
As much as I love Mayael because of her glorious artwork she is no angel, literally not figuratively.
Imperfected
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I think more to the point, 5+ Power restriction actually cuts off tons of Angels, considering how much 4 Power is a "thing" for the tribe.
Zirilan of the Claw isn't a dragon either yet is perfect for mono red dragon tribal.
There are enough 5+ power angels to make it work. You underestimate how many freaking angels exist in mtg.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm no flavour judge but against my ideals of a tribal deck.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Tbh after AKH and HOU the time does feel kinda ripe for Naga and Minotaur tribal. Round out those tribes, build some standards of play and flavor.
Imperfected
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I wonder if, even if they don't do full tribes, they might just print a few scattered color-fixing commanders for tribes that have color identity problems like zombies, vampires, and angels. Probably not, I suppose, since they'd rather leave that option open for a complete different Commander set.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
We need a devoid jeskai/bant/5c eldrazi legend.
I know there is for sure, but for the life of me I can't remember it.
Look up Grenzo, Dungeon Warden decks. It'll be in there for sure.
Edit: Reito Lantern
As long as the rest of the deck is tribal I think it's fine. I mean, Kaalia is neither angel, dragon or demon and loads of people use her as a tribal commander.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Kaalia is an abomination mixing things that shouldn't be mixed.
I want my commander to share the decks tribe if there is one. Zirillian is like Scion more toolbox than tribal anyway.
Little Old Man
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The only thing I would like for elves is a GBW commander. But yeah that doesn't warrant taking up a deck next month. I'm currently making an Elf Tribal EDH deck and the amount of options and directions you can take it in is already great.
I would be down for Minotaur Tribal (and more good Minotaurs that cost 2 or less mana) but with Nagas, are Snakes just dead as a tribe moving forward? I still don't get why they decided toe embrace Nagas. Seems like falling into the same pitfalls things like Kamigawa did.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
forget minotaur tribal. It'll never be good.
Imperfected
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I'll place my bets on Sphinx Tribal and Vampire Tribal (to bridge their continued insistence on adding white into Vampires color identity and bridge into white Ixalan vampires) being the remainder.
No real reason for Sphinx other than they seem to have been pushing it increasingly hard for the last few years, so I guess the push will continue.
No real reason for Sphinx other than they seem to have been pushing it increasingly hard for the last few years, so I guess the push will continue.
______ can and will become good as long as you add enough good low drops. It's the low drops that are key to turning any tribe competitive. Minotaur are pretty well covered in the 3+ mana range. Not so much the 1/2 mana range.
All Nagas need is to not be Nagas but rather be Snakes
Sounds easy
Also begs the question why they weren't snakes to begin with
Imperfected
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They'll probably just Oracle Nagas to add Snakes to their type line at some point. It honestly seemed inevitable as soon as they announced Amonkhet and frankly kind of pisses me off that they wouldn't just manage it preemptively.
Do you want Ants Tribal, Wizards? Because this is how you get Ants Tribal.
Edit: As per Esper Zombies, I think the main problem with it is that all of the Amonkhet White Zombies are just hardcore in the "who even cares" category, yeah. Like, they exist, but they may as well not.
Do you want Ants Tribal, Wizards? Because this is how you get Ants Tribal.
Edit: As per Esper Zombies, I think the main problem with it is that all of the Amonkhet White Zombies are just hardcore in the "who even cares" category, yeah. Like, they exist, but they may as well not.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not until they get a powerful mechanical theme, heckbent and self discard is the opposite of that. Minotaurs are just majorly bad cards in addition to being in the 2nd least powerful colour combo.
Well, there aren't any rare white zombies that I can remember. Only uncommon ones. If there were rare or mythic white zombies that'd be one thing. Instead we get a bunch of commons plus the embalm/eternalize stuff, which I wouldn't put into any zombie tribal deck even if there was an Esper commander.
Hell, the only good Zombie tribal cards from Amonkhet that I'd think about using are Liliana's Mastery and Plague Belcher, two mono black cards!
Imperfected
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Lord of the Accursed, too, though he's also mono-black.
There's the Zombie tribal support instants (In Oketra's Name and Time to Reflect), but they're nothing to really write home about.
There's the Zombie tribal support instants (In Oketra's Name and Time to Reflect), but they're nothing to really write home about.
Vanillalite
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So how fucked will I be playing other players if I get in with this new expansion?
I'll basically have my free starter deck from last release and whatever I get if I do prerelease or buy a Planeswalker deck am I gonna get wrecked?
I'll basically have my free starter deck from last release and whatever I get if I do prerelease or buy a Planeswalker deck am I gonna get wrecked?
Are you talking about going into standard? Yeah you'll probably get wrecked. The set before this was really powerful, much more powerful than this one, and a lot of very good decks are out there.
I'd recommend sticking to limited until you get your footing. Don't have to worry about people who spent over $100 on a deck crushing you in a handful of turns.
Can't believe I forgot about Lord of the Accursed. He's the one that actually sees a bunch of play in Zombie decks (though I love Plague Belcher's design so much more).
Stick to drafting and limited at least until September when Ixalan comes out since that is when the 4 oldest sets will rotate out and no longer be a part of standard. If you still are into the game at that point it would be a good time to jump into standard. If you want to get in sooner then just look around online at some budget decks. You can find some decks to play with at FNM for 40 or 50 bucks (mtggoldfish has some good cheap decks). You wont win often but you will at least get a lot of practice and help you learn the game.
I was wishing for Strix when we went to Kaladesh in the first place. Strix would be very good in modern but it would slot into death shadow so idk. As a modern faeries player I would love it.
divisionbyzorro
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Why would DS waste time with Strix?
Great sideboard card in the mirror.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
so much for legacy light.
blindrocket
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Part of me wondered if Vial Smasher was going to be allowed but it was always an obvious ban for 1v1 in any format. Especially the Duel Commander format where life totals are 20.
I thought modern was legacy lite ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I could kiss yall! Definitely think I'll add Reito Lantern and Canal Dredger in my deck. Constantly getting back targets for my Sunforger will be nice.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Are you already running mistveil plains?
If they are mostly above bulk, and you want to do it quick, head to buylists. If your cards are in pristine condition, use Cardkingdom (they have the best prices but your idea of NM is their idea of SP), otherwise,shop around a bit- but keep it to 2 or 3 lists total so you aren't loosing your mind shipping.
Magic Story -Favor
Interesting thing about Bontu's betrayal on reddit: the art for Bontu is the only one without gold and Bontu is kneeling.
- Hazoret fights dudes. She meets Samut, who tries to convince Hazoret of Nicol Bolas being a trespasser, but Hazoret has headaches.
- She eventually can't deal with the carnage, and prays for the God-Pharaoh.
- Big Nick shows up through a lengthy and elaborate Planeswalk. He rekts the place some more with Torment of Hailfire.
- Bontu shows up and kneels to big Nick, even calls him by name, which makes Hazoret freak out.
- But that would mean... Nicol Bolas orders Bontu to kill Hazoret, and she complies without hesitation.
- Bontu and Hazoret fight, with Hazoret trying to make nothing personnel, kid and Bontu not having any of it. Hazoret remembers everything after getting mind blasted. Bontu was never under mind control, had been running the show the whole time.
- Hazoret gets rekt and laid at Nicol Bolas' feet. Bontu's reward? Blast to the chest and death by zombies. She last resorts, then frees Hazoret of her death magic as big Nick flies away. Only Hazoret remains.
Interesting thing about Bontu's betrayal on reddit: the art for Bontu is the only one without gold and Bontu is kneeling.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
This story is so stupid. Bontu having been aware all along was the perfect plot twist, then having her turn in face of betrayal is just pure cringe.
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