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[Angry Grimace]

Taigam will just have fake Prowess the way that the Ojutai 4/4 Mythic guys do.

I'm disappointed those guys don't do anything on their own. I'd probably rather spend 4 mana on Narset or a Mentor plus a Defiant Strike or Wild Slash or something.

 

[Toxi]

I like how there's 0 technological advance at all over 1280 years either with or without dragons.

The Abzan have better armor... And that's about it as far as I can tell.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Tuned up for the pptq weekend:

Sultai Midrange

Creatures(21):

• 4 Satyr Wayfinder
• 4 Courser of Kruphix
• 4 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
• 2 Torrent Elemental
• 2 Whisperwood Elemental
• 3 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
• 2 Hornet Queen

Spells(12):

• 4 Bile Blight
• 2 Hero's Downfall
• 3 Sultai Charm
• 3 Murderous Cut

Enchantments(2):

• 2 Whip of Erebos

Land(25):

• 4 Opulent Palace
• 3 Temple of Malady
• 2 Temple of Mystery
• 4 Polluted Delta
• 3 Swamp
• 1 Island
• 2 Forest
• 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
• 3 Llanowar Wastes
• 2 Yavimaya Coast

Sideboard(15):

• 3 Thoughtseize
• 3 Drown in Sorrow
• 2 Crux of Fate
• 3 Disdainful Stroke
• 2 Negate
• 1 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
• 1 Kiora, the crashing wave

Streamlined the deck a little bit, some more adjustments wiggling around the numbers to make my sideboard plans smoother and evening out the pre and post-board curve a bit. I feel like I'm pretty close to optimal at this point for the last few weeks of the Standard format here.

I'm already trying to imagine what the deck looks like with Anticipate and the new Sidisi.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Bands with Babies.

 

[Angry Grimace]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";154825630]I'm already trying to imagine what the deck looks like with Anticipate and the new Sidisi.[/QUOTE]

Anticipate seems kind of mediocre outside of a deck that *really* wants some kind of engine card. You're just replacing one card in your hand for another card off the top three (the chance that the card you need is in the top three isn't really all that high) for 2 mana and you don't get anything to Delve off of with it.

 

[Firemind]

Pick Battlefield Thaumaturge up now. No real downside to grabbing a set while its cheap.

I just realized it combos with the red mythic.

t2 Dragon Tempest
t3 Hordeling Outburst
t4 Thaumaturge, don't pass priority, play mythic, sac four creatures, deal 16 damage, attack for 16.

 

[Kacar]

So you can just not pass priority when thaumaturge resolves and there's nothing they can do? Priority always mixes me up.

 

["God's Beard!"]

So you can just not pass priority when thaumaturge resolves and there's nothing they can do? Priority always mixes me up.

Your opponent gets priority whenever you put something on the stack or change phases. So once thaumaturge resolves, your opponent can't do anything until you take another action. As soon as you trigger his ability, your opponent gets a chance to kill it in response.

 

[kirblar]

So you can just not pass priority when thaumaturge resolves and there's nothing they can do? Priority always mixes me up.

Yup, unless a ETB effect was triggered by it, you get priority first.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Yup, unless a ETB effect was triggered by it, you get priority first.

One of the few un-intuitive rules that still remain the game, actually. It makes complete sense to the entrenched player, but it feels very arbitrary to the new player.

 

[Kerrinck]

What's the combo with Battlefield Thaumaturge?
Kinda out of the loop.

 

[MjFrancis]

I miss this card.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

What's the combo with Battlefield Thaumaturge?
Kinda out of the loop.

It can reduce the price of Assault Force (a newly spoiled Mythic) all the way down to RR.

 

[ultron87]

Noooo my Stormbreaths. Don't kill them for 2 mana.

That's a nice card to have back.

 

[Firemind]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";154847416]Your opponent gets priority whenever you put something on the stack or change phases. So once thaumaturge resolves, your opponent can't do anything until you take another action. As soon as you trigger his ability, your opponent gets a chance to kill it in response.[/QUOTE]
You still get the discount though! Even if they kill one, 3 dragons are still 9+12 damage.

Also, I read they commisioned an alternate art of Sunscorch Regent, but the card is nowhere to obtain?

 

[MjFrancis]

 

[kirblar]

lol at a MegaMorphling.

Finally, a good command.

 

[ultron87]

Fuck yo Planeswalkers apparently replaced Mill in the Blue/Black color pie this set.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Nice red "FUCK YOUR RHINO" spell

 

[Angry Grimace]

Also, blue devotion is back!

 

[The Technomancer]

I'm going to make a morph deck, even casually, work goddamnit

 

[Firemind]

Also, blue devotion is back!

noooooooooooo

master of waves

 

[Angry Grimace]

I feel like I shouldn't be more excited by Roast and Ultimate Price than all the other cards.

noooooooooooo

master of waves

I mean, not having anything even remotely good at the 2 drop slot, kind of hurts, ya know? Although I'll give you that Megamorphling is way better than Nightveil Specter ever was.

 

[Firemind]

It even gets boosted by master of waves. Wizards pls.

 

[The Technomancer]

PAX panel is today yeah?

 

[kirblar]

PAX panel is today yeah?

3PM on PAX2.

 

[Jhriad]

That's a lot of good cheap removal.

 

[GregLombardi]

3PM on PAX2.

Do you have a link to this?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Do you have a link to this?

http://www.twitch.tv/pax2

 

[GregLombardi]

http://www.twitch.tv/pax2

Thank you!

 

[Angry Grimace]

7 mana still =/

 

["God's Beard!"]

Although I'll give you that Megamorphling is way better than Nightveil Specter ever was.

You take that back

 

[Angry Grimace]

Atarka is one of the worst mythics in a long time. Not by virtue of anything other than just being extremely boring Timmy design. One time ETB that's just Bogardan Hellkite's ability (e.g. something we already knew dragons could do) and a huge, unprotected body. It doesn't even have a static ability. Its just huge. Making a creature huge is not making it "mythic," its just huge.

 

[The Technomancer]

New Atarka is...worse than old Atarka? I guess the toughness helps her dodge some burn

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

7 mana still =/

7 for a 8/8 Flying + Trample? I'm okay with that.

Also, some of these cards look so much fucking fun. I really like that they are going hard in for dragon.

Crucible of Fire would do well with this set.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Atarka is one of the worst mythics in a long time. Not by virtue of anything other than just being extremely boring Timmy design. One time ETB that's just Bogardan Hellkite's ability (e.g. something we already knew dragons could do) and a huge, unprotected body. It doesn't even have a static ability. Its just huge. Making a creature huge is not making it "mythic," its just huge.

It's a pretty decent Jund Reanimator target, though. If you get to whip it back while your opponent taps out, it's a 21 point life swing lol

 

[Yeef]

Atarka should've been whenever it or another dragon enters. I think that would warrant being a mythic.

 

[Crocodile]

A) All the abilities on Silumgar's Command are good but it costing 5 instead of 4, while probably "fair", is a real boner killer :/

B) I'd rather have Bogardan Hellkite than new Atakra. I guess they didn't want new toys for Dragonstorm?

 

[Firemind]

Atarka is one of the worst mythics in a long time. Not by virtue of anything other than just being extremely boring Timmy design. One time ETB that's just Bogardan Hellkite's ability (e.g. something we already knew dragons could do) and a huge, unprotected body. It doesn't even have a static ability. Its just huge. Making a creature huge is not making it "mythic," its just huge.

Can't even target players lol. At least it's consistent with being an elder dragon!

The art is more dynamic than her previous card at least.

Also, Atarka being more expensive confirms she's the end boss (unless Ojutai also costs 7).

 

["God's Beard!"]

At this point, the thing that would most blow my mind is Ojutai costing 4.

A) All the abilities on Silumgar's Command are good but it costing 5 instead of 4, while probably "fair", is a real boner killer :/

I just don't know if removal + bounce is ever worth five mana. It's pretty good against Sorin, I guess?

I get that they had to make it five because bouncing a land at 4 is probably too brutal, but man. Five is a bunch.

 

[y2dvd]

I miss this card.

Hnnggg that art is nice. Esper it is for me.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

The point of Atarka is to meet the Formidable requirement by herself.

 

[ultron87]

JUND DRAGONS.

You ramp into the big boys and then whip them back when they get killed.

Also, Roast is an awesome card name.

 

[Firemind]

Also, Roast is an awesome card name.

Why can't dragons attack flying creatures though? That's the real question.

 

[The Technomancer]

Thinking about it I'd really have liked to see, say, Atarka at 5/5 or 6/6 but with un-keyworded Devour

 

[Toxi]

7 mana still =/

On one hand, Bogardan Hellkite is a fun card and Atarka will be fun too. Probably my favorite of the elder dragons spoiled so far.

On the other, did they really have to reuse Bogardan Hellkite's ability instead of doing something new? These elder dragons feel really uninspired.

Edit: I do like how her 8 power triggers formidable.

Edit 2: Wait, she can't target players? Why the hell can't she target players?

 

[Firemind]

These elder dragons feel really uninspired.

Can I blame LaPille yet?

 

[kirblar]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";154862401]It's a pretty decent Jund Reanimator target, though. If you get to whip it back while your opponent taps out, it's a 21 point life swing lol[/QUOTE]
It's actually 26, you get lifelink off the firebreathing.

edit: nvm, cant dome. Blah

 

[Yeef]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";154863493]I just don't know if removal + bounce is ever worth five mana.[/QUOTE]

 

[GregLombardi]

Checkmate. Haha.