Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Only true of very specific cards in my experience. The redemption thing does hit the jank mythics though.
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Only true of very specific cards in my experience. The redemption thing does hit the jank mythics though.
Nah, its because you have a "spare" rare set floating out there for each redeemed mythic set.
divisionbyzorro
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Yeah; the way the system is set up, it forces Mythics to leave the MTGO economy exactly twice as fast. It means that there are proportionally fewer Mythics in circulation in MTGO than there are in paper (as compared to Rares).
Doesn't the boost take effect before the tokens enter the battlefield?
The boost is a static ability, and therefore starts applying immediately.
The token production is a triggered ability, and therefore goes on the stack after Master of Waves hits the battlefield and has to resolve before the tokens are produced.
Yeah, the boost effect is in place as soon as the Master is resolved and since the ETB trigger is still on the stack, the boost is already in effect before it resolves.
phazedplasma
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played Modern for the first time last night. Using a modified event deck.
0-2 vs pod
1-2 vs faeries
2-0 vs infect (green)
0-2 vs burn
I could won the burn game but I made a misplay in the 2nd game :\
Tons of fun. Making some side + deck changes this week. Can't wait for next Tuesday. I think I might retire from limited until Khans and just play modern.
0-2 vs pod
1-2 vs faeries
2-0 vs infect (green)
0-2 vs burn
I could won the burn game but I made a misplay in the 2nd game :\
Tons of fun. Making some side + deck changes this week. Can't wait for next Tuesday. I think I might retire from limited until Khans and just play modern.
SigmasonicX
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Story of a guy on Innistrad who is driven to apostasy after he learns that Avacyn was created by Sorin, but unfortunately, the story doesn't cover anything he does after he learns.
SigmasonicX
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Source of the information. At Gamescon in Germany, one of the Hasbro guys mistakenly opened up the Duel Decks instead of the sample decks and had everyone pass it around to look at it, but they realized the mistake before long and the poster only remembered a few of the cards he saw.
Which makes this tweet hilarious: https://twitter.com/Wizards_MagicEU/status/499253698795560960
Apparently we may be getting the new cards/Duel Deck announcement shortly, anyway.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Wedgelands in Khans, Fervent Charge in the Duel Deck. This surprises no one.
This is going to be an insanely slow block if the only untapped duals are enemy pain lands.
Allied untapped lands in Set 1 are incredibly likely, imo.
I'm betting on Onslaught Fetchlands, feeding into the MM2 release in terms of increasing Modern accessibility.
SigmasonicX
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Shards of Alara had tricolor lands that came in tapped at uncommon and Evolving Wilds variants for each shard at common, but Wizards has said that a big mistake with that block was the lack of color fixing. Considering the guildgates, I'm guessing we'll get the tricolor tapped lands at common this time and something else at the other rarities.
Enemy Fastlands and Enemy Man-Lands are the two big cycles that still need to be finished. I think we might get the WWK Man-Lands in M16.
What about the Odyssey pay lands? lol
The what? They're also not in Modern, whatever they are. Oh, and Enemy Manlands are almost assuredly on their way in Zen II.
They have names specific to Mirrodin/New Phyreixa though so they can't be reprinted in a block expansion.
Tri-lands are WAY more powerful that Gates even with Gate interactions. These will be uncommon. They just have to bump up the mana-fixing in other ways. Morph will also help similar to how cycling help Shards block.
Those lands are garbage. How cares about them?
Angry Grimace
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I think lands being super expensive commodities is something that's always going to turn people off on non-rotating formats since land seems like such a basic concept. My wife has only a basic understanding of MTG and telling her that land costs 50 bucks a pop made her think I was insane.
Zendikar fetches were cheap (10-15 range) for a very long time.
I wonder if WoTC has 'price targets' for what a competitive deck in each format should cost.
When I bought into Modern, shocklands were the barrier to the format, clocking in at 15-30 bucks each. Some went for more, momentarily, before we realized a Return to Ravnica was happening.
Cheap fetches were just kind of a given, until SCG started buylisting them for significantly over market value ($30 for a blue fetch when they were 20 on tcgplayer).
When I bought into Modern, shocklands were the barrier to the format, clocking in at 15-30 bucks each. Some went for more, momentarily, before we realized a Return to Ravnica was happening.
Cheap fetches were just kind of a given, until SCG started buylisting them for significantly over market value ($30 for a blue fetch when they were 20 on tcgplayer).
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think they have the capability to determine how much a deck is going to cost because they don't have the capability to grind deck tests the way MTGO players do.
I know. I wish I was playing at shops back then so I could have cared to snap up a set. That was before Modern took off and Magic's player base more than doubled. If they reprint them at level appropriate for a new set with the current player base (ie not limited print Modern Masters) they should get back to around those levels.
Yep. I swore to myself I wouldn't let those lands leave Standard without acquiring a playset of each. Picked up the last two Misty Rainforest I needed to compete my full set for $20 total. If I knew then what I knew now I would have made sure to pick up multiple playsets instead
You gotta capitalize your LOLs or else they are too easy to miss
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The originals will dip heavily the moment they get announced, but "new" fetches will be like 20 bucks before they start dipping I imagine. I imagine they'd dip even if they were ONS fetch reprints.
SigmasonicX
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Predictions for Khans mechanics, some more likely than others:
Abzan (WBG) - "Whenever CARDNAME attacks or blocks, you gain 1 life."
Abzan does not appear to be graveyard focused, and the other major thing these colors share is life gain. At Comic-Con, Abzan was described as playing the long game, and constant life-gaining is a good way to extend the game. Lifelink is too strong to just put on every creature, so this seems like a good variation. It's kind of boring, but that's what Wizards often does. Abzan might also have a lot of "whenever you gain life" cards.
Jeskai (URW) - Spellmorph, because shut up. It could be like, "You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for (3). If you pay its spellmorph cost, or when it is turned face up, exile it and and cast it from exile without paying its mana cost if able."
Sultai (BGU) - Delve (each card you exile from your graveyard while casting this spell pays for 1), because Sultai has a mechanic based on resource manipulation and Wizards has been trying to fit delve into a set for a while.
Mardu (RWB) - Hard to say, since almost any combat mechanic could work. I'll go with fixed flanking, like, "Whenever a creature blocks this creature, the blocking creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn." Flanking mainly appeared in these colors, anyway.
Temur (GUR) - Like how Odric had a mechanic similar to battalion in M13, I get the feeling that Might Makes Right is a preview for Temur's mechanic. It will be an ability word with effects like, "If you control each creature on the battlefield with the greatest power or with the greatest toughness, then..." with the toughness part added for blue.
Abzan (WBG) - "Whenever CARDNAME attacks or blocks, you gain 1 life."
Abzan does not appear to be graveyard focused, and the other major thing these colors share is life gain. At Comic-Con, Abzan was described as playing the long game, and constant life-gaining is a good way to extend the game. Lifelink is too strong to just put on every creature, so this seems like a good variation. It's kind of boring, but that's what Wizards often does. Abzan might also have a lot of "whenever you gain life" cards.
Jeskai (URW) - Spellmorph, because shut up. It could be like, "You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for (3). If you pay its spellmorph cost, or when it is turned face up, exile it and and cast it from exile without paying its mana cost if able."
Sultai (BGU) - Delve (each card you exile from your graveyard while casting this spell pays for 1), because Sultai has a mechanic based on resource manipulation and Wizards has been trying to fit delve into a set for a while.
Mardu (RWB) - Hard to say, since almost any combat mechanic could work. I'll go with fixed flanking, like, "Whenever a creature blocks this creature, the blocking creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn." Flanking mainly appeared in these colors, anyway.
Temur (GUR) - Like how Odric had a mechanic similar to battalion in M13, I get the feeling that Might Makes Right is a preview for Temur's mechanic. It will be an ability word with effects like, "If you control each creature on the battlefield with the greatest power or with the greatest toughness, then..." with the toughness part added for blue.
SigmasonicX
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Yes, but I hope Jeskai also gets spellmorph. As in:
Morphshock - R
Instant
Morphshock deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
Spellmorph R (You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for (3). If you pay its spellmorph cost, or when it is turned face up, exile it and and cast it from exile without paying its mana cost if able.)
Angry Grimace
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Maro says spellmorph is an impossible characteristic.
I'm like 99% sure they've said something like this breaks Magic (as in the rules) and can't be done.
Angry Grimace
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Morph by rule only applies to permanents and Wizards will not allow a non-permanent to become a permanent.
Spellmorph doesn't sound very martial arts-y the Jeskai seem to portray though.
Some ideas:
Life Force - Whenever you lose life, you may have CARDNAME deal 1 damage to target player.
Feint - Whenever CARDNAME attacks and isn't blocked, you may have it deal X damage to target creature, where X is its power. If you do, prevent all combat damage CARDNAME would deal this turn.
Serenity - Whenever a source deals damage to CARDNAME, draw a card, then discard a card.
Power Up - Whenever CARDNAME attacks, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, CARDNAME gains +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the revealed card's power.
Ascension - Whenever CARDNAME deals combat damage to a player, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, add X +1/+1 counters to CARDNAME where X is the revealed card's power.
Some ideas:
Life Force - Whenever you lose life, you may have CARDNAME deal 1 damage to target player.
Feint - Whenever CARDNAME attacks and isn't blocked, you may have it deal X damage to target creature, where X is its power. If you do, prevent all combat damage CARDNAME would deal this turn.
Serenity - Whenever a source deals damage to CARDNAME, draw a card, then discard a card.
Power Up - Whenever CARDNAME attacks, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, CARDNAME gains +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the revealed card's power.
Ascension - Whenever CARDNAME deals combat damage to a player, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, add X +1/+1 counters to CARDNAME where X is the revealed card's power.
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I like it, but as a keyword its kind of busted. If it just added one counter if the revealed card is a creature it could be pretty awesome though.
Druid of the Deep Woods
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Ascension
Whenever you put a +1/+1 counter on Druid you may draw a card
Angry Grimace
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I mean, by rule instants and sorceries cannot be on the battlefield as permanents, even when morphed. It also makes no sense to do so, since you can just morph in permanents that have an "ETB when morphed" (a regular ETB will not trigger on Morph).
Fun fact: before the rules for face-down cards were made part of the rules, you used to be able to really fuck with opponents with the card Illusionary Mask, because it was face-down, yet its abilities still worked. You just didn't have to reveal them; e.g. you could play Platinum Angel as a face-down creature and then when the game ends, you just say "I don't lose." They don't get to check the card, they just have to assume you're telling the truth.
Illusionary Mask now basically makes your creatures have morph, but turned up when it taps. The effect is basically just "ignore ETBs," so you can just cast Phyrexian Dreadnought with it.
Fun fact: before the rules for face-down cards were made part of the rules, you used to be able to really fuck with opponents with the card Illusionary Mask, because it was face-down, yet its abilities still worked. You just didn't have to reveal them; e.g. you could play Platinum Angel as a face-down creature and then when the game ends, you just say "I don't lose." They don't get to check the card, they just have to assume you're telling the truth.
Illusionary Mask now basically makes your creatures have morph, but turned up when it taps. The effect is basically just "ignore ETBs," so you can just cast Phyrexian Dreadnought with it.
So they've already done:
-When unmorphed do X
-Morph on non-creature permanents
-Morphs that can turn themselves or others back down and/or face up multiple times
-Creatures with quirky/saboteur combat abilities (so their identity being unknown makes blocking super awkward for the opponent)
-Split mana costs over turns so that the equivalent of X+ drops in power level can begin swinging on turn X-Y
-Creatures with negative static effects that aren't in effect when morphed
Aside from fiddling with the mana costs and P/T ratios to bring the new creatures up to Modern standards, what design space is out there to explore? I'm kind of expecting Dual Lands with Morph (a continuation of what Zoetic Cavern started).
-When unmorphed do X
-Morph on non-creature permanents
-Morphs that can turn themselves or others back down and/or face up multiple times
-Creatures with quirky/saboteur combat abilities (so their identity being unknown makes blocking super awkward for the opponent)
-Split mana costs over turns so that the equivalent of X+ drops in power level can begin swinging on turn X-Y
-Creatures with negative static effects that aren't in effect when morphed
Aside from fiddling with the mana costs and P/T ratios to bring the new creatures up to Modern standards, what design space is out there to explore? I'm kind of expecting Dual Lands with Morph (a continuation of what Zoetic Cavern started).
Angry Grimace
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SigmasonicX
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There is the area of triggered morphs, like:
Dodging Walrus - 3UU
Creature - Walrus
Hexproof
Morph 3UU
When Dodging Walrus becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, if it is face down, you may turn it face up.
3/3
Also, I want a variation of Scornful Egotist that addresses devotion.
Devout Egotist - 4UUUU
Creature - Human Wizard
Morph U
1/1
Angry Grimace
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I think we're supposed to be fed more info at PAX (Aug 29-Sept 1)
This was actually printed to facilitate the "CMC matters" subtheme of Scourge.
Although "better when morphed" counts as well.
Angry Grimace
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I mean, okay, a 2/2 for 3 mana is not typically a bad deal in limited, but the other modes are so random they'd never see practical use.
Apparently it confused the fuck out of casuals who didn't pick up on the trick.
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