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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege

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The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Yeah I don't think Mark is apologizing for BotG being weak in that article since that's more of a development issue anyway, he's apologizing for it being boring. Journey has a lot more interesting stuff going for it design wise which is why I still like it since I play mostly casually
 
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kirblar

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The Technomancer said:
Yeah I don't think Mark is apologizing for BotG being weak in that article since that's more of a development issue anyway, he's apologizing for it being boring. Journey has a lot more interesting stuff going for it design wise which is why I still like it since I play mostly casually
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Tom LaPille's big problem as a developer is super-boring paint-by-numbers sets where you can easily eyeball all of the best cards because he's blatantly pushed them.
 
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Lucario

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kirblar said:
Tom LaPille's big problem as a developer is super-boring paint-by-numbers sets where you can easily eyeball all of the best cards because he's blatantly pushed them.
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Tom LaPille said:
There's a green card from Zendikar block that we've found is the key to our infect decks, and I haven't seen anyone out in the real world play a single copy of this particular card in an infect deck yet. (It's not a creature pumping effect.) Don't fret, though—it took us a long time to find it too. In fact, it took us until "Action" was the most recent set in our playtest Standard environment. Our mono-green infect deck that includes the card in question has traveled to several events now with an impressive winning record. Perhaps one of you will find it, and it will be good enough to win you a tournament or two.
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he was talking about Overgrown Battlement
 
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"God's Beard!"

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Speaking of Walls, I think Wall of Mulch could be standard playable after rotation if they don't print untapped duals in Tarkir.

I was doing the math for my mana, and I can't really run elvish mystic in my BUG deck reliably with the number of tapped lands. I think I'd rather just have another wall that cycles.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
Maledict said:
I think the fact that Theros was supposed to be the enchantment block, and yet we didn't see an enchantress deck come out of it or even a deck with a strong enchant theme showed that it wasn't a great success design wise.

The enchantment theme felt very tacked on and unnecessary, and the fact that we only get 'enchantment matters' cards in the third set was a real hindrance (plus those cards felt ridiculously underpowered).
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I think this is a consequence of the fourth epoch of design (or whatever the hell MaRo calls it). Is Theros a Greek block first and foremost or is it an enchantment block? I feel like Wizards tried to say it was one or the other on multiple situations when in the end the Greekness won out over the enchantmentness.
 
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kirblar

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Cosmo Clock 21 said:
I think this is a consequence of the fourth epoch of design (or whatever the hell MaRo calls it). Is Theros a Greek block first and foremost or is it an enchantment block? I feel like Wizards tried to say it was one or the other on multiple situations when in the end the Greekness won out over the enchantmentness.
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MaRo's said they're getting away from the "ALL ABOUT X" style, which is a good thing.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

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kirblar said:
MaRo's said they're getting away from the "ALL ABOUT X" style, which is a good thing.
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They need to stop advertising it like it's still the way things work, then. I wonder if people are going to complain about KTK not having enough wedge support when it's not supposed to be a wedge block in the first place.
 
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kirblar

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Cosmo Clock 21 said:
They need to stop advertising it like it's still the way things work, then. I wonder if people are going to complain about KTK not having enough wedge support when it's not supposed to be a wedge block in the first place.
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Had a crazy thought- what if it's leading into a shards set. :p (Hence, Bolas.)
 
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Lucario

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Haly said:
What in the name of???
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He also once went on a tangent about Great Sable Stag being the answer to everything blue in legacy, and I think that was during the Mental Misstep era. Dude is insanely out of touch with the game, and designed some of the worst sets in recent memory.
 
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Hero

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kirblar said:
Tom LaPille's big problem as a developer is super-boring paint-by-numbers sets where you can easily eyeball all of the best cards because he's blatantly pushed them.
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Lucario said:
He also once went on a tangent about Great Sable Stag being the answer to everything blue in legacy, and I think that was during the Mental Misstep era. Dude is insanely out of touch with the game, and designed some of the worst sets in recent memory.
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Honestly don't know how Tom LaPille keeps getting sets to design. They are always the worst ones.
 
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SigmasonicX

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I still say this block is going to be 3 color -> 2 color -> 1 color.

Also, MaRo has been hyping up his article next week, both at the end of the new State of Design and on Blogatog. I say it's either going to be an update on evergreen keywords, or an announcement of Unglued 3.
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Guys I did it

I drafted U/B Storm in VMA and actually got a lethal tendrils off with a bunch of Rituals and Necropotence out

(I only went 2-1, so it wasn't the most successful ploy ever)

SigmasonicX said:
I still say this block is going to be 3 color -> 2 color -> 1 color.

Also, MaRo has been hyping up his article next week, both at the end of the new State of Design and on Blogatog. I say it's either going to be an update on evergreen keywords, or an announcement of Unglued 3.
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Please no
 
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MjFrancis

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The Technomancer said:
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I'm digging the art on these cards. Tricolor taplands at uncommon are also a good thing in my book. Predictable, sure, but necessary - and thankfully not clogging up a rare card slot.
 
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"God's Beard!"

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Playing Rainbow Bogles today and here were the cards I drew one game:

5 lands
4 creatures
2 path to exile
1 inquisition of kozilek
3 fucking Daybreak Coronets and no other enchantments wtf
 
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An-Det

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A bunch of my GB stuff is loaned out so I played Sneak & Show in Legacy tonight, going 2-1 (lost R1 to Food Chain, won against some kind of prison deck and Death & Taxes). The first game vs D&T was crazy to me. I Show & Tell'ed a Griselbrand into play, then he STP'ed it. I had 5 lands in play after that, so I drew the 7 cards and among other things got Emrakul, Sneak Attack, and triple Lotus Petal, so I just untapped and went nuts. The deck just draws crazy at times, I guess.

Also might be going to a local judge conference in a few weeks. I never did go for my L1 despite TO'ing and judging for at least 5-6 years, but I've been talking and interacting with judges a lot more recently so it's been on my mind. Always did enjoy it, so may try to go for it if they ok it.
 
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SigmasonicX

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The Technomancer said:
Doug apparently says Ugin is dead, but then I don't know how much stock to put in that. It could be a revival thing
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Well, he specifically says that Bolas claims that he killed Ugin, but that Bolas could have been lying about that (or just threw him off a cliff into water and just assumed he died). Also, part of the plot is that Sarkhan is hearing messages from Ugin in his head, which Bolas just assumes is a sign of his madness.

Besides, time travel block.
 
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The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
SigmasonicX said:
Well, he specifically says that Bolas claims that he killed Ugin, but that Bolas could have been lying about that (or just threw him off a cliff into water and just assumed he died). Also, part of the plot is that Sarkhan is hearing messages from Ugin in his head, which Bolas just assumes is a sign of his madness.

Besides, time travel block.
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If the revival of Ugin leads into Zendikar II that will be a nifty bit of structuring
 
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kirblar

Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";126060014]Wall of Mulch is gas. Wow. Super synergistic with scrylands and Courser.[/QUOTE]
It was doing work in the Maze's End decks.
 
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Firemind

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Angry Grimace said:
Guys I did it

I drafted U/B Storm in VMA and actually got a lethal tendrils off with a bunch of Rituals and Necropotence out
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I qualified for the VMA Limited Championship first try last night, because I drew Wild Mongrel and played it turn two in every game. :lol Sylvan Library is also pretty busted.

Only problem is I can't attend the event due to work. I can't find any conclusive answers (wizards customer service sigh), so does anyone know if I have to be online and attend the event to get my free product? Never obtained 16 QP in a season, so I have no idea how it works.
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Firemind said:
I qualified for the VMA Limited Championship first try last night, because I drew Wild Mongrel and played it turn two in every game. :lol Sylvan Library is also pretty busted.

Only problem is I can't attend the event due to work. I can't find any conclusive answers (wizards customer service sigh), so does anyone know if I have to be online and attend the event to get my free product? Never obtained 16 QP in a season, so I have no idea how it works.
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I guess you could always get a friend to just play the tourney for you.

Also, Vintage, ladies and gentlemen:

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(Turn 3 sequence: Ponder, Tropical Island, Fastbond, Gush, Tropical Island, Island, Gush, Black Lotus, Sol Ring, Tropical Island, Island, Sac the Lotus ---> Necropotence, Timetwister, Island, Island, Underground Sea, Gush, (float mana) Underground Sea, Underground Sea, Duress (gets Mental Misstepped), Mana Crypt, Island, Tendrils.)
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
MTGO:

Me: Casts Necropotence
Opponent: Casts Notion Thief
Me: "FYI that won't work because of the way Necro is worded"
Opponent: "Fuck off this is the tournament room I know that, everyone knows that"
Me: "Its not really that obvious, just letting you know"
Opponent: "Really? Fuck you, get back to the game."
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Yeah Grimace, stop being such a know-it-all.

Prick!
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Haly said:
Yeah Grimace, stop being such a know-it-all.

Prick!
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If he had cast it in response to like Ancestral Recall, that might be different, but he cast it while Necropotence was on the stack.
 
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y2dvd

Member
M15 drafts so far have been very fun and swingy.

First picked Nightfire Giant and geez it did work once you're able to stabilize. It's still a mana sink though. I love the store I played at because they try to draft properly, passing me some money rares like Sliver Hivelord, Sliver Hive, Yavimaya Coast, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth which I needed for my EDH deck anyways. Then I opened Chord of Calling which totally won me a game. More on that later. I still ended up winning the draft on top of rare drafting lol.

2xElvish Mystic
1xTyphoid Rats
1xSatyr Wayfinder
1xTorch Fiend
1xReclamation Sage
1xNecromancer's Assistant
1xWitch's Familiar
2xCarrion Crow
1xUndergrowth Scavenger
1xCharging Rhino
1xBlood Host
1xNightfire Giant

1xHot Soup
1xTyrant's Machine
1xGrindclock
1xVerdant Haven
1xCone of Flame
2xCovenant of Blood (I took it over Flesh to Dust. I'm not sure if that's right but the lifegain definitely helped)
1xEndless Obedience
1xChord of Calling

6xSwamp
5xForest
4xMountain
1xEvolving Wild
1xUrborg, Tomb of Yawgoth

Sb
Festergloom which was bad because I had a few green 1/1's lol.
Hunter's Ambush
Plummet (definitely won me a game!)

Elvish Mystics are such a high pick. One game I did T1 Forest Elvish Mystic; T2 Swamp, Elvish Mystic, Hot Soup, Typhoid Rats; T3 Mountain, Nightfire Giant; T4 equip Hot Soup for an unblockable 5/4 for the rest of the game. I felt dirty lol. Another game, my opponent dropped Ajani's Pridemate on T2 and eventually got it to be a 7/7 lifelinker. I was down to 3 life when I topdecked a Chord of Calling. He attacks with the Pridemate, I Chord of Calling for a Typhoid Rat and deathtouch his guy to eventually come back.

My deck didn't have much evasion, so Hot Soup was nice. It feels bad when you mill something with Satyr Wayfinder that you really need, but he's like a must for mana fixing. Tyrant's Machine did work for my grindy deck. Grindclock, ironically, sucked. I've tried this card a few times and even dropping it on T2 a few times, and I never had the clock to mill someone to death. Cone of Flame was amazing. I always killed at least 2 creatures and essentially wiped their board.
 
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Scythesurge

Member
phazedplasma said:
Got so blown out playing modern last night against this combo

pants were around my ankles at the end of that game.
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On Sunday at a Modern PTQ I played against a similar deck, though I did not see Waste Not come out. I suspect it might have been in that list somewhere. The real killer was my opponent hitting two turn one Shrieking Afflictions and whittled away my hand with Raven's Crime and other cards. Had no idea how to play against that deck lol.
 
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phazedplasma

Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";126275078]Raven's Crime is so godlike.[/QUOTE]

Yep he had those as well as the green card that allows him to take lands back from the graveyard that he can dredge to keep playing it

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the cycle continues
 
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Lazy vs Crazy

Member
I really want to play that rack deck but Liliana is just unreasonably expensive online. You could probably build that deck cheaper in paper than you can online.
 
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