"God's Beard!"
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Don't forget that Gray Merchant was dominating Standard before Khans. I'm not gonna spec too heavily, but if Eldrazi are playable I expect Ugin to be as well.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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Don't forget that Gray Merchant was dominating Standard before Khans. I'm not gonna spec too heavily, but if Eldrazi are playable I expect Ugin to be as well.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They have a twitch panel tomorrow at 1:30.
charlequin
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Opened the thread just now with the intention of posting exactly this.
I'm not totally, absolutely, immovably set on this option, but most of the things people are suggesting on twitter are ghastly. "Slow lands" is entirely undescriptive. "Laglands" is actively misleading. "Check duals" is ultra confusing. (Just in general the idea that people use "dual" to refer only to lands with basic types is not accurate.) "Basic duals" is even worse. "Zen duals" is strictly incorrect. Anything playing on this being the third land you play is too close to trilands. The only one I've seen that is tolerable is "countlands" but tango is way cooler.
Honesty I'm a little surprised WotC didn't have a pre-planned nickname for these, they've started doing that a lot more often to keep people from settling on anything brand-inappropriate.
"God's Beard!"
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That's what I'm saying about Siege Rhino. We don't know if it's gonna stay dominant just because it's so good in this format.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't get it. What is tangoland even mean
charlequin
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Wow, these are gorgeous. (And not laden with hedrons.) The mountain in particular is probably fighting it out with Veronique's for my favorite full-art mountain (and just ahead of the original Unglued one.)
Actually, Noah Bradley did my favorite mountain in Origins too:
By my math an expedition should show up just over every two cases. They won't be $500 upfront (that'd still mean the possibility of getting one of these would soak up a whole dollar of EV on every pack) but they should comfortably come out to $200ish, and they'll just go up from there once the set's OOP.
charlequin
Banned
Not sure where they got them, but mythicspoiler has almost all the full-art basics. Overall they look excellent to me -- I'm glad that they at least didn't waste the opportunity on underwhelming art. Plus they reprinted Veronique's mountain!
Damn. Adam Paquette and Noah Bradley really killed it with a few of those. Bradley especially.
charlequin
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From a guy who also called the exact text of Gideon on this site 22 days ago comes Ob Nixilis:
Also, just for anyone who missed it, the how-obvious-can-we-make-it red/white manland art:
Bradley's are my favorite but I like Sam Burley's better overall than Paquette's. The first set they showed us are the worst across the board!
Also, just for anyone who missed it, the how-obvious-can-we-make-it red/white manland art:
Bradley's are my favorite but I like Sam Burley's better overall than Paquette's. The first set they showed us are the worst across the board!
charlequin
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Yeah, I take back my complaint about saving them for BFZ. I still think Maro was unusually disingenuous about this, but I appreciate that they gave us straight-up gorgeous full-art lands instead of making them too specifically Zendikar-y.
Totally agree with the lands-are-gorgeous. I only don't like the reprinted Forest one, not found of the way it's painted.
$200 seems more reasonable if they are indeed as rare as they say. But it has been said that they are slightly more common than a mythic foil, which appears in 1:216 boosters and since a case contains 216 boosters, each case has a big chance of containing one expedition.
80 basic lands + 9 from the boosters.
They changed it to 80 some time ago, and I expect them to keep it at this.
$200 seems more reasonable if they are indeed as rare as they say. But it has been said that they are slightly more common than a mythic foil, which appears in 1:216 boosters and since a case contains 216 boosters, each case has a big chance of containing one expedition.
80 basic lands + 9 from the boosters.
They changed it to 80 some time ago, and I expect them to keep it at this.
charlequin
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Oh, that number's lower than the ones I found (though some extra research suggests it's probably closer to right.) In that case they might well settle at $100 on average, I can't really see these sucking up more than about fifty cents of value a pack.
Thirty-five bucks for 89 full-art lands (plus, y'know, some other cards too) sounds like a pretty good deal! I'm not sure if this means that BFZ full-arts will settle way below the price of ZEN ones or if there'll just be massive runs on the fat pack product.
I really hate the new frame proportions so much on the full art lands.
Overall I really like the look of the expedition lands but I really don't get why they did the translucent background instead of the white-outlined text approach.
The other thing is that there are 10 Fetches and 15 other cards that aren't eternal playable, and thus desirable. On average, less than half of these cards you open will be fetches.
The Technomancer
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Goddamn yeah I'm buying a fat pack
I dunno. 80 basics is nice, but I'd rather spend 60-70 bucks more for a box and take a shot at the special lands and foil basics. Not to mention whatever money rares they're going to spoil in the coming weeks.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/full-art-lands-confirmed-for-bfz-fat-packs
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/full-art-lands-confirmed-for-bfz-fat-packs
That was the number I found and seems also based on experience from people who open around a foil mythic each case. I doubt they'll make these expeditions a 1:10 boxes, since even WotC knows there's much demand in these things.
I think the Zendikar full arts will drop price again until BFZ is well out of rotation. It's the thing that always happens with reprints, seeing as the shocklands are also severely reduced in price compared to when I stopped playing.
I think I like it better this way. The other full-art promos are usually distracting for the text, and I think it's still good that cards have their text on them. Mostly because I play with people who aren't familiar with all the names and functions and would have no idea what the card is actually doing.
The shocks are still playable and if they all have the art like Steam vents, I'm all for it. Their price is just lower now because they have been reprinted recently. It's true that you do have a 1:5 chance of opening some poop, though.
edit: completely misinterpreted what was said.
I really hate the new frame proportions so much on the full art lands.
Yeah, the new frame on the full art basics isn't great. I'd much prefer the frame to be either curved on top and bottom or, even better, eliminate that curved bit entirely. The frame on the expedition lands is kind of ugly as well, imo.
Yeah I only had Form of the Dragon to get the benefit of Finest hour. Thanks
Where does he say that?
Yeah, I like how they gave us a nice mix of hey this is Zendikar and just really lovely basics.
Oh I didn't know they changed it to 80. That's awesome.
I kind of hate the curve at the top more than the black bar. Why can't they just use the Unhinged frame?
Huh? I'm not seeing where he said that, I just glanced through it again.
I misinterpreted his chart, I though he was adding + a bllion chances to open a full art land in a fat pack.
SigmasonicX
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BfZ trailer with embarrassing Nissa narration. I don't think I'll put this in the OT.
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So Processors may do more than make Scions
Expedition takes the place of a foil, as expected
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So Processors may do more than make Scions
Expedition takes the place of a foil, as expected
Basically, you get three more packs for the price you pay for a fat pack. That's three more chances to open money cards. Although, if I remember correctly, people here who bought fat packs opened a lot of money cards, so who knows? Maybe they like to distribute the money cards into the fat packs.
Infinite Stars
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Damn it, Sam Black got knocked out in the semi
finals. It's an Abzan World again.
finals. It's an Abzan World again.
Opened my first fat pack in years, was a Magic Origins one. Got a Jace, Hangarback Walker, Lanquish and a Goblin Piledriver. Didn't expect to break even
.From Twitter:
What could have been...
The sorting process seems different for fat packs but I haven't exactly opened up enough product for a statistically significant sample size. Weirdly all of the fat packs I've opened have had at least one mythic and a foil rare/mythic. Two of them had two mythics and a foil mythic. *shrug*
What could have been...
The sorting process seems different for fat packs but I haven't exactly opened up enough product for a statistically significant sample size. Weirdly all of the fat packs I've opened have had at least one mythic and a foil rare/mythic. Two of them had two mythics and a foil mythic. *shrug*
shrapnelmagnet
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Finished 12-4. 6-2 in both formats. Great weekend.
Edit: top 16
Haven't caught up to the thread fully, yet, but just wanted to say Well Done, man! Hope you had a ton of fun
https://twitter.com/MishrasFotoshop/status/638057585917210624
It's a pretty nice illustration of exactly how not full art those lands are.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Can't wait to see the Zendikarized versions of other lands.
The quality of art has been through the floor the last few sets. CG is being used, presumably because it ties into their online stuff, but it's utterly souless and dreadful. I'm really not sure how anyone with any shred of artistic integrity could sign off on Omnath for example.
Love the art, can't wait to see it with better quality, but damn I really hate that weird bar at the bottom. Maybe seeing it in its glory will change my mind.
Edit: I'm dumb, just realized the bottom bar is also the border. Still don't love it, but I like it a little more now realizing that lol.
blindrocket
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They will save it for the 'next' time they print full art fetches/shocks. They always have to hold a little back and not give the absolute premium version right away.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Its like one Scalding Tarn per something dumb like 50+ cases.
All I'm saying is you're gonna be vaguely pissed when you get a Zendikar Expedition Tangoland.
"God's Beard!"
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My girlfriend uses her patented combo of Mystical Tutor into Temporal Mastery, I cast Worst Fears next turn
Also, LET'S GO OWEN
Also, LET'S GO OWEN
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They could just use Blightsteel's reanimate clause if it was. I think the idea is that Ulamog-2 isn't actually as backbreaking as Ulamog-1 because it doesn't have annhilator, especially if you skip out on the Cast clause.
divisionbyzorro
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This Top 4 might be the most boring in the tournament's history.
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