I have the whole deck aside from two Moxes and the Glimmervoids. I've proxied the missing cards and goldfished it a ton. It's fun but feels super inconsistent.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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I have the whole deck aside from two Moxes and the Glimmervoids. I've proxied the missing cards and goldfished it a ton. It's fun but feels super inconsistent.
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phazedplasma
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Some of the newer versions take out the monastery mentor and put in myth realized.
They also run thoughtcast, 1 hurkyls recall and serum visions.
Also they run this card:
Thi guy also does a lot of streams with the deck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2gbKdPM-K8
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think they're about equal
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There is no good reason that is a mythic.
Yeah, they're about equal. (That's the only dragon with unconditional first strike I could find.)
GregLombardi
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There is no good reason that is a mythic.
In the history of magic cards, we have seen tons of discard engines that have been brutally abused. No, no good reason at all!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah what the fuck is going on with the art? Something is weird behind the scenes
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
In the history of magic cards, we have seen tons of discard engines that have been brutally abused. No, no good reason at all!
I'm willing to bet cashmoney this is a bulk mythic. Because it is worse than Thunderbreak Regent.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The new art on Origins cards looks like hot garbage
Its not, they don't go in the same deck.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah, because Thunderbreak goes in a deck and this guy goes into a bulk box. Its the best 4 drop around for decks that don't want any 4 drops.
WHAT YEAR IS THISThis art though. Woof.
It looks like a cutscene from Age of Empires or Rome: Total War.
There is no good reason that is a mythic.
Is it because it's basically a worse version of Sarkhan Dragonspeaker's PW emblem?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Of course, Sarkhan's emblem is worse than just continuing to + Sarkhan.
Keru_Shiri
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Doesn't really play well with Dash.There is no good reason that is a mythic.
I was being facetious lol This card should be a rare.
What does this belong in anyway, Burn?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Nothing. You'd be out of your fucking mind to put a card in your deck that has "discard your hand and if you happen to untap with this still in play, you get 2 cards instead of 1."
Who cares specifically about Dragons? First and Double Strike are found at almost every rarity in both Red and White and at about the same amount. One minute in Gatherer and I get 126 mono-white creatures that have/gain/give first or double strike and 104 mono-red creatures that have/gain/give first or double strike.
All I can imagine it being good in, situationally is:
T1: Mountain, Bolt, Say go
T2: Mountain Eidelon Say go
T3: Mountain Bolt, Bolt Say go
T4: Mountain, Bad Dragon, Discard 1 card, Say go
T5-X: Hope to draw cheap burn x2
T2: Mountain Eidelon Say go
T3: Mountain Bolt, Bolt Say go
T4: Mountain, Bad Dragon, Discard 1 card, Say go
T5-X: Hope to draw cheap burn x2
And that doesn't seem good. I've been wrong before.
I guess it could work in some sort of UR Burn with Snapcasters. But again, still doesn't seem good lol
Citadel Siege says hi.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Citadel Siege sees no play outside of being a stupid limited bomb so there's that
There is no good reason that is a mythic.
Hmm, if it sticks around, you immediately discard a card the end turn you cast it. That can really hurt.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
(Serum Visions goes to $20)
acheron_xl
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*hugs sole Foil Serum Visions tighter*
Is that not the red one? Whatever the red one is.
The dream is dead
Damn. So close. So that's 2 legit openings for serum visions that weren't put in. Maybe there will be a FTV: Refuse to Reprint for No Good Reason that involves Damnation, SV, and Rare Tarmogoyf.
Outpost
EDIT: I wish that dragon had haste... At least give me a chance to deal some damage and provoke some spot removal before I discard my hand.
"God's Beard!"
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There is no good reason that is a mythic.
I like this card. Super nonbo with Whip though
The dream is dead
Jesus Christ WOTC what are you doing? $20 commons make sense to you?!?!
This is kind of the reason why there's no incentive to participate in modern constructed. Barrier is way too high for no real good reason. I don't understand why Cruise and Dig were banned but somehow Goyf is perfectly acceptable.
Modern Masters 2015 kinda failed to lower the barrier of entry too.
Modern Masters 2015 kinda failed to lower the barrier of entry too.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Because cruise and dig enable consistency which is a big no-no and goyf encourages attacking with creatures so it's a-ok.
>:|
SigmasonicX
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The new sample decks, including the new cards in them. Interesting to see at least one more black elf from Lorwyn, though she didn't bring Lorwyn art with her (the other black elf is Golgari). It's also interesting to see that there appears to be a rebellion going on in Vryn.
Notable reprints are Cruel Revival (from Onslaught) and Titan's Strength, showing that with scry evergreen, the latter really does seem to be a mainstay now.
Also notable is this card:
Our first "French vanilla" prowess creature.
Notable reprints are Cruel Revival (from Onslaught) and Titan's Strength, showing that with scry evergreen, the latter really does seem to be a mainstay now.
Also notable is this card:
Our first "French vanilla" prowess creature.
Here's my crack at that dragon, why not?
Dragon is dat curve topper
UR Avaricious Burn
Spell
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lava Spike
4x Rift Bolt
4x Skullcrack
4x Shard Volley
4x Searing Blaze
2x Gutshot
Creature
2x Grim Lavamancer
4x Monastery Swiftspear
4x Snapcaster Mage
4x Eidelon of the Great Revel
4x Avaricious Dragon
Land
6x Mountain
2x Island
4x Scalding Tarn
2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Steam Vents
Sideboard
4x Blood Moon
4x Searing Blood
4x Mutagenic Growth
3x Tibalt
Spell
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lava Spike
4x Rift Bolt
4x Skullcrack
4x Shard Volley
4x Searing Blaze
2x Gutshot
Creature
2x Grim Lavamancer
4x Monastery Swiftspear
4x Snapcaster Mage
4x Eidelon of the Great Revel
4x Avaricious Dragon
Land
6x Mountain
2x Island
4x Scalding Tarn
2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Steam Vents
Sideboard
4x Blood Moon
4x Searing Blood
4x Mutagenic Growth
3x Tibalt
Dragon is dat curve topper
"God's Beard!"
Member
Elvish Visionary is back!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The red one is Outpost Siege, and Outpost Siege is orders of magnitude better than discard-dragon. Because you get the same type of card-advantage at the same speed without discarding your hand in a less easy to remove package. The only benefit of dragon is the body, which is not so above the curve to be worth basically anything.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";166884531]Elvish Visionary is back![/QUOTE]
Yes.
That's the biggest owl I've ever seen.Also notable is this card:
Our first "French vanilla" prowess creature.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Kung-Fu Owl
Even though I like Regenerate quite a bit at this point I'd much rather they get rid of it and give Black a new keyword that they would actually use more frequently. Out of 138 black creatures in standard only 6 have Regenerate and the only Standard playable one is Rakshasa Deathdealer, a gold card.
Here's the # of creatures per keyword (or potentially gaining the keyword through activation) in Standard:
Black
Regenerate: 4 mono, 2 gold
Deathtouch: 15 mono, 2 gold
Lifelink: 3 mono, 3 gold (one of which is Chromanticore)
Haste: 1 mono, 5 gold (plus 8 Dash creatures)
Flying: 25 mono, 15 gold (includes Chromanticore)
Trample: 1 mono, 2 gold (Chromanticore)
Menace: 1 mono
Red
First Strike: 7 mono, 5 gold (Chromanticore)
Double Strike: 3 mono, 1 gold
Prowess: 3 mono
Haste: 15 mono, 6 gold (plus 11 Dash creatures)
Flying: 16 mono, 15 gold (Chromanticore)
Trample: 12 mono, 9 gold (Chromanticore)
Menace: 4 mono, 1 gold
I tried to remove the Tribute cards and a few cards that require incredibly difficult steps to gain the keywords but that's approximately the distribution. Red sees considerably more use of it's keyword pie in non-creature spells of course but that's probably to be expected considering the color and the combat trick effectiveness of their keywords..
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That card is incredibly garbage holy fuck
phazedplasma
Member
Origins super boring so far.
I've taken a "no buying cards until Origins comes out" stance for reasons, but if this set continues to look this boring, I'll be able to extend past it. Crazy.
acheron_xl
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Card-Devouring Dragon
2R
Creature - Dragon
Flying, haste
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, discard your hand. Put a +1/+1 counter on this for each card discarded this way.
Dash R
You cannot draw cards.
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