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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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acheron_xl
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That is some Hot Soup levels of hilarity right there.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So there's no spoilers for today?
Yikes. I'm guessing Jace was supposed to be the spoiler but we already knew him from that dude who stole the SDCC cards.
Yikes. I'm guessing Jace was supposed to be the spoiler but we already knew him from that dude who stole the SDCC cards.
SigmasonicX
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I've felt that cards that cared about having multiples was something they should explore more, so I'm happy about these cards. Last one is a reprint, BTW.
Jace's origin story, which literally involves a school bully. Interesting that Alhammarret appears to be a planeswalker, but I was expecting for there to be a grand conspiracy or something. Now, it doesn't seem like there would be a major storyline reason for Jace to regain his memory.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I really would like to have been a fly on the wall in the meeting where they designed Horrible Hierarch and someone said "let's give him Vigilance so you can ramp" and then someone else is like "NO HE CAN'T HAVE VIGILANCE UNTIL HE IS RENOWNED!"
phazedplasma
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I guess its weird for me cause what if anafenza is out when this card comes down. It gets a counter but isnt renown, seems confusing. No way to tell if something is renown and so many cards that give a 1/1 counter especially in green.
monstrous was also a 1 time action, like stormbreath etc. After it became monstrous something happened, and it never happened again. With renown you have to remember its renown and the counter is not reliable for that.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Magic Origins: Remember the awesome cards throughout the game's history? Here they are again, but shittier. Enjoy!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Magic Origins is the baby version of good cards before they grew up into real ones
Monstrous is basically the same type of mechanic except with Monstrous nothing ever happened that was specifically tied to the status of being Monstrous.
blindrocket
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It's bad like that bad Dark Confidant they made. Actually probably worse.
Just reprint the better originals...
@oraymw went IN on this story on Twitter.
I've felt that cards that cared about having multiples was something they should explore more, so I'm happy about these cards. Last one is a reprint, BTW.
Jace's origin story, which literally involves a school bully. Interesting that Alhammarret appears to be a planeswalker, but I was expecting for there to be a grand conspiracy or something. Now, it doesn't seem like there would be a major storyline reason for Jace to regain his memory.
"Power creep? We'll show you power creep!"
SigmasonicX
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Uh, who is that and why should I care? I thought the story was fine, anyway.
"God's Beard!"
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Undead Servant should have been a 2-mana 2/2 mythic :-(
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";169662263]Undead Servant should have been a 2-mana 2/2 mythic :-([/QUOTE]
A Mythic that cares about stacking your decks with other Mythics seems like something WOTC would never design.
A Mythic that cares about stacking your decks with other Mythics seems like something WOTC would never design.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So when are the non-garbage cards being spoiled?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
BFZ is probably going to have fetches.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Honestly seems like trying to design this set from scratch was a terrible idea instead of just doing M16.
He does those big limited set analyses on one of the sites. They're super good. (He also teaches English, I believe, which is where his issues with the story came in, specifically the bullying part.)
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I'm just waiting for someone else to unpack all of the lore about Vryn, since that's all I care about
Sequence Six
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I was going to say "natural vigilance on a monogreen creature feels weird" but then I looked it up and saw a fair number of green vigilance'rs printed in the last couple years. Why does green need vigilance? Feels weird.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Because green is the only color with Reach and Reach is garbage on a lot of creatures without vigilance.
SigmasonicX
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There's only one monogreen creature with both vigilance and reach, though.
Anyway, the real answer is because they wanted to have vigilance appear on nonwhite cards and they determined that green would result in more unique vigilance cards, as opposed to blue, which would have the exact same sort of a vigilance cards as white. This decision happened back during Lorwyn.
And you guys are too hard on this set. Yesterday had a lot of exciting spoilers.
One thing I'll say is that they are really nailing the promo art. Pretty much all the promo versions of cards look better than their normal versions. Often the opposite it the reality.
Seriously. I thought they were going to stop printing trap/"skill tester" cards.
Vigilance has been in Green's color pie since Lorwyn. Also see this article written on creature keywords.
Seriously. I thought they were going to stop printing trap/"skill tester" cards.
Vigilance has been in Green's color pie since Lorwyn. Also see this article written on creature keywords.
Noble Hierarch + Timetwister reprints.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The majority of us seem to care whether cards are good in Standard, Modern, Legacy or in its own Limited format. None of the cards from yesterday were any of those. Being able to say "this will go great in my Nekusar EDH deck" isn't something that gives me a chub. *shrug*
Sequence Six
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Part of it is, I guess, some of these sets feel more recent than they actually are. Looking up the cards sets like Mirrodin 2.0 and Innistrad still feel fairly new to me.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";169613354]M15 had:
Goblin Rabblemaster
Stoke the Flames
Nissa, Worldwaker
Perilous Vault
Radiant Fountain
Hornet Queen
Hornet Nest
Reclamation Sage
Soul of Theros
Pro Tour Top 8 God Card Genesis Hydra
Chord of Calling reprint
Painland reprints
Urborg Reprint
ORI has:
Strictly worse versions of every old card
Flipwalkers
...[/QUOTE]
The Flipwalkers suck outside of Liliana and Gideon anyways.
Goblin Rabblemaster
Stoke the Flames
Nissa, Worldwaker
Perilous Vault
Radiant Fountain
Hornet Queen
Hornet Nest
Reclamation Sage
Soul of Theros
Pro Tour Top 8 God Card Genesis Hydra
Chord of Calling reprint
Painland reprints
Urborg Reprint
ORI has:
Strictly worse versions of every old card
Flipwalkers
...[/QUOTE]
The Flipwalkers suck outside of Liliana and Gideon anyways.
SigmasonicX
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This seems decent?
1w
Creature - Human Soldier
Vigilance, Renown 1
2/2
c
Also:
2BG
When ~ enters the battlefield, target opponent loses life equal to the number of Elves you control.
acheron_xl
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This is why I sometimes feel like there should be a second Magic thread for people that actually play for fun. I feel like I'm off topic every time I post in this thread.
SigmasonicX
Member
Eh, it's really just like two posters that complain about power level.
Also:
2BG
When ~ enters the battlefield, target opponent loses life equal to the number of Elves you control.
GB Gary?
EDIT: Nevermind. No life gain.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem is that so many of these cards are worse versions of cards that already exist. When you play for fun, those original versions are legal and usually cheap.
Its not like I don't like casual cards as a rule. Here's a fairly random example of a card I really thought was fun for casual/flavor:
To me, there's a big difference between neat stuff like this (or Aggressive Mining, or any other number of neat cards that never saw play) and Jace's Basement.
acheron_xl
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And when it's not spoiler season, page after page of draft decks and event coverage reactions.
An EDH player never takes redundancy for granted.
And yeah, the set could be better/more creative etc, but I guess I'm like the guy who sees beauty in the pretty fat girl, I guess. I get off on a good vanilla creature FFS.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It just feels so far like its Archangel's Light: the Set, where it was a short dev cycle and they were scared of printing Skullclamp somehow, so they made everything that could possible get busted bad and/or made them worse versions of cards people already liked (but might be broken).
Does low power level bug me? Yes, to a degree, but its mostly just that so far these just don't feel like interesting cards and the limited environment looks dull because there doesn't seem to be any coherent themes (we've seen an unusual number of commons/uncommons).
acheron_xl
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It isn't Masques block, at least. That was pure, pant-shitting R&D fear in Magic form. And it was dull. And the art sucked.
I'll crush you with my Worldspine Wurms, fool.
On the topic of wurms, I just found out this card exists.
Great wurm or greatest wurm?
Yeah I expect something like this or spells that gives Renown to creature that isn't renowned yet and yes, it still wouldn't be worth it. Expect Renown hate cards for limited.
You take that back!
All I've done so far today MTG-wise is sketch out ideas for my Tainted Remedy deck. This is the pool I've compiled so far, Modern legal. Rough sketch, seems fun, super casual.
Tainted Love
- Crea-
- x Wall of Shards
- x Alms Beast
- x Eternal Witness
- x Dark Confidant
- Ench-
- x Tainted Remedy
- Inst-
- x Beacon of Immortality
- x Nature’s Claim
- x Congregate
- x Devour Flesh
- x Healing Leaves or Heroes Reunion
- x Abrupt Decay
- x Primal Command
- x Rest for the Weary
- x Condemn
- x Oust
- Sorc-
- x Hunter’s Feast
acheron_xl
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Look in your heart. You know it to be true.
Nemesis is actually really rad, and one of my favorite sets ever. But MM is dull, and Prophecy? Woof.
My playset of Ports will buy me something nice someday though.
High-impact targeted lifegain is surprisingly scarce.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'll crush you with my Worldspine Wurms, fool.
On the topic of wurms, I just found out this card exists.
Great wurm or greatest wurm?
That's a cool idea, I just wish it was on something less fuck-all huge.
acheron_xl
Member
Really Demonic Tutor 2BB
Sorcery (M)
Research 2B (While you're searching your library, you may cast this card from your library for it's research cost.)
Search your library for a card and put that card into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
Imposing Will 2UU
Instant (R)
Research--Pay 5 life (While you're searching your library, you may cast this card from your library for it's research cost.)
Counter target spell.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Here's how you know I'm bored with Standard. This is the deck I'm running on Friday:
Creatures
4 Deathmist Raptor
4 Den Protector
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Fleecemane Lion
2 Hidden Dragonslayer
2 Warden of the First Tree
Spells
4 Collected Company
3 Dromoka's Command
3 Mastery of the Unseen
2 Valorous Stance
Land
4 Temple of Plenty
1 Blossoming Sands
4 Windswept Heath
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
5 Plains
9 Forest
SB:
2 End Hostilities
3 Plummet
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Reclamation Sage
2 Whisperwood Elemental
Creatures
4 Deathmist Raptor
4 Den Protector
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Fleecemane Lion
2 Hidden Dragonslayer
2 Warden of the First Tree
Spells
4 Collected Company
3 Dromoka's Command
3 Mastery of the Unseen
2 Valorous Stance
Land
4 Temple of Plenty
1 Blossoming Sands
4 Windswept Heath
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
5 Plains
9 Forest
SB:
2 End Hostilities
3 Plummet
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Reclamation Sage
2 Whisperwood Elemental
Fixed.
I think this mechanic would either be underpowered and boring, or would lead to fetchlands being even more dominant as they suddenly become able to fetch spells for you as well as land for the low price of one life. Free spells you could play from your library would be a big no-no, IMO, since it could end up becoming phyrexian mana all over again on top of research spells themselves not even costing you a card from your hand.
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