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[SigmasonicX]

New spoiler from WotC's official twitter account:

I like how the front side is a sort of callback to Wolfir Silverheart. He seems decent enough, but it's kind of weird how the two abilities don't tie together, since he generally won't boost himself and fight on the same turn.

Anyway, legendary werewolf!

 

[Angry Grimace]

I like how the front side is a sort of callback to Wolfir Silverheart. He seems decent enough, but it's kind of weird how the two abilities don't tie together, since he generally won't boost himself and fight on the same turn.

Anyway, legendary werewolf!

I guess they went with commander crap. Too bad, I was hoping for something that would actually address how stupidly inconsistent Werewolves are as a tribe.

 

[Yeef]

I like how the front side is a sort of callback to Wolfir Silverheart. He seems decent enough, but it's kind of weird how the two abilities don't tie together, since he generally won't boost himself and fight on the same turn.

Anyway, legendary werewolf!

A 6/6 can fight pretty much anything reliably.

This can do some pretty silly things if you have multiple Vildin-Pack Alphas in play.

 

[alternade]

2 disappointments in less than 5 hours.

How low can Mark go???

 

[Wichu]

Curving Arlinn Kord into Ulrich seems fun. 10/10 vigilance haste pls.

 

[Santiako]

Kinda weird that they finally make the Werewolf commander and it doesn't interact any way with werewolves, it just happens to be one.

 

[kirblar]

Ulrich is constructed playable. Barely, but he is.

 

[Ashodin]

Arlinn bout to jump. get your arlinns now

 

[Angry Grimace]

Honestly think all of the big flashy flip cards have been huge disappointments going back to SOI.

Avacyn is blatantly overpowered garbage, Ulrich sucks just as bad as any other werewolf, one of them is a gimmick mill spell, the planeswalker is way too unreliable to be useful, etc.

Ulrich is constructed playable. Barely, but he is.

I can't conceive of how.

Arlinn bout to jump. get your arlinns now

Arlinn doesn't interact with Ulrich in any particularly good way beyond she pumps guys. But she pumps literally any guy.

 

[Ashodin]

People gonna hype and build the werewolf deck again. Just you watch. Then dreams will burst.

 

[Angry Grimace]

People gonna hype and build the werewolf deck again. Just you watch. Then dreams will burst.

Nobody built it in the first place.

 

[Ashodin]

Nobody built it in the first place.

Won't stop people from trying now that all the werewolves are coming out the woodwork

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

ETB ability makes it good enough

 

[Ashodin]

Turn 4 Arlinn, flip into werewolf, turn 5 Ulrich pump the 2/2 into 6/6.

 

[kirblar]

Arlinns still bad.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Turn 4 Arlinn, flip into werewolf, turn 5 Ulrich pump the 2/2 into 6/6.

You can do that with literally any creature. They have almost no synergy beyond Ulrich being a creature which is a legal target for the +1/+1, and in fact, they have a bit of non-bo synergy because Arlinn's reverse side doesn't give haste to Ulrich.

 

[Ashodin]

But werewolf tribal

How could they fuck up a four mana Planeswalker so badly?

 

[Angry Grimace]

But werewolf tribal

How could they fuck up a four mana Planeswalker so badly?

He doesn't even have any synergy with Werewolves beyond being one.

 

[MoxManiac]

Emrakul. What the hell. It's terrible. Emrakul is the type of creature that should win you the game outright if it hits the table, like the original. What is this overcosted garbage? Why do they have to give the opponent an extra turn? Why can't it just be mindslaver?

 

[Giant Panda]

The legendary werewolf isn't even good for EDH. It should have been tribal in some way.

 

[Crocodile]

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Yeah, I was hoping the legendary werewolf would have smoothed out the transformation mechanic in someway. The etb is okay, but first glance this is a less exciting Huntmaster. Maybe it plays better than it looks.

 

[Angry Grimace]

The legendary werewolf isn't even good for EDH. It should have been tribal in some way.

It doesn't even have fucking trample.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Here is a big version of the Emrakul art

 

[Toxi]

Legendary Werewolf seems to miss the point of what EDH players were looking for in a legendary Werewolf.

The main problem Werewolves have in EDH is that there are more players who will be playing more spells during each others' turns. You have even less control over what form they'll be in, and it's very easy for players to force them back to Human and to force them to stay Human.

An ideal Werewolf commander would either give you more control over their transformation or/and have an effect that punishes your opponents for playing spells during other players' turns.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Guy with the hat and tentacle-beard on the right halfway back looks like Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean.

Legendary Werewolf seems to miss the point of what EDH players were looking for in a legendary Werewolf.

The main problem Werewolves have in EDH is that there are more players who will be playing more spells during each others' turns. You have even less control over what form they'll be in, and it's very easy for players to force them back to Human and to force them to stay Human.

An ideal Werewolf commander would either give you more control over their transformation or/and have an effect that punishes your opponents for playing spells during other players' turns.

Hermit of the Natterknolls does that, but a single player has to cast multiple spells.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Emrakul. What the hell. It's terrible. Emrakul is the type of creature that should win you the game outright if it hits the table, like the original. What is this overcosted garbage? Why do they have to give the opponent an extra turn? Why can't it just be mindslaver?

The Mindslaver effect by itself is 7B. Once you put it on a creature that could potentially cost (8) and make the actual effect uncounterable, there was no way it would be the full effect.

 

[HK-47]

For some reason rising up to fight in the streets while a giant world eating monster looms in the sky just seems to miss the point of lovecraftian horror.

 

[MoxManiac]

Got to give credit to the artwork being amazing.

These two cards are not giving me a good first impression of the set.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Spoiling the wolf makes no sense. The number of people who actually cared about it were minimal and it tells you nothing about the set mechanics.

 

[Exokell]

New spoiler from WotC's official twitter account:

(Looks like this was a mistake. The tweet's since been deleted.)

Edit: And was now tweeted again.

Lame, I rather have wolfir silverheart.

 

[bigkrev]

Spoiling the wolf makes no sense. The number of people who actually cared about it were minimal and it tells you nothing about the set mechanics.

I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a spoiler down the line, they accidentally tweeted it out, and instead of pretending that no one saw it that dust went ahead and acknowledged it

 

[red13th]

The werewolf is so underwhelming. zzzz

 

[Ashodin]

Spoiling the werewolf shuts up the yap of people who want the werewolf

but the icing on the cake is "it's total shit"

GG 13/13 would troll again WOTC

 

[kirblar]

Wolfir Silverheart was playable.

 

[bigkrev]

Guess we are in a new budget year for MTG!

 

[kirblar]

Cocks just started his onboard process too.

 

[OnPoint]

Wow that werewolf seems garbage. I hope It can prove me wrong but yuck.

 

[Ashodin]

Okay, this got a chuckle out of me

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I'd rather have huntmaster as a commander if I were playing Werewolves.

Commanders really have to do something the moment they come into play or when they live for a turn. This one just pushes some damage through and or picks off some weenies. It also does nothing on an empty board.

 

[Ashodin]

This just happened

 

[Kerrinck]

This just happened

Probably a stupid question but can you grab changelings with these?

 

[Ashodin]

Probably a stupid question but can you grab changelings with these?

Yes.

 

[SigmasonicX]

This just happened

I'm amused they decided to resurrect the old wish functionality, where it could not only retrieve cards from outside the game but cards "removed from the game" (exiled).

 

[OnPoint]

Um... Could Nahiri's 'tech' here be how the Phyrexians eventually get a move on...?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Oh man fuck mono blue edh

 

[HK-47]

Next they are gonna print something that interacts with emblems

 

[kirblar]

Um... Could Nahiri's 'tech' here be how the Phyrexians eventually get a move on...?

Eldrazi can naturally planeswalk.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Here is a big version of the Emrakul art

That looks terrifying.

 

[OnPoint]

Eldrazi can naturally planeswalk.

This I know. But look at that art. Change a couple things around and it's basically a portal lol I'm just saying, this could be the first possible clue or step to them making their way out into the multiverse.