Thank you. Please Nintendo don't appease the whiners.
Although I disagree that it's annoying, per se. It's just meant to feel tense.
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Although I disagree that it's annoying, per se. It's just meant to feel tense.
Soodanim
Gold Member
The extra item equip slots in Ocarina were nice (Ocarina given its own button and an extra item slot was added, so you effectively have 2 more slots). That will be even better in Majora.
But I'm not that excited by this, because it's on a console that isn't comfortably over long periods of time. I'm definitely going to have to get some sort of grip extender, which GAF has recommended to me before. Either that or swap my XL for a 2DS.
The NG+ Fierce Deity mask would be worth the asking price alone, though.
But I'm not that excited by this, because it's on a console that isn't comfortably over long periods of time. I'm definitely going to have to get some sort of grip extender, which GAF has recommended to me before. Either that or swap my XL for a 2DS.
The NG+ Fierce Deity mask would be worth the asking price alone, though.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I like the new Moon. Looks pretty intimidating still.
What he's saying is that part of the game design/difficulty lies in time management and planning, and the stress accompanying it. Being able to slow down time further reduces that tension.
For example, the Kafei sidequest and the Romani Ranch sidequests are all about near-misses and properly-timed connections. The sense of satisfaction for properly nailing those sequences is partially derived from the way the time system currently works.
General Zechs
Neo Member
WHY NOT WII U
DAMN U NINTENDO!
KojiKnight
Member
The limitation is in the 3DS hardware. You won't find many 3DS games that 'wow' even compared to PS2 games. For a 3DS game, however, it's not too bad, even if it's just an updated port... keeping in mind it's still essentially an open world style game.
I totally believe you. I get goosebumps just listening to it.
Could someone explain one thing to me (without spoiling the game if possible), is there some kind of timer in game? Like, you have to finish the game before time runs out?
It's a reverse bullshot. It looks much better in motion on the screen, or at least OoT did. Same goes for Monster Hunter and actually a lot of 3DS games.
Yep, the feeling of finally nailing those was so rewarding. Perfectly timed.
If there's an "easy mode" of some sort, I really think people are going to have a much lesser experience with the game.
Hot Coldman
Banned
All they really need to do is have someone tell you about the Song of Time varianrs as part of the story. "You remembered the Song of Time! Also, get this, play it backwards and time slows down, making this game a piece of cake!"
Meesh
Member
The only thing that irks me about this is the box art, the dark/gritty look and feel is missing...it really set the tone for the story. They really should have used it in game as well. The new art looks more light hearted and whimsical, which isn't bad per say it just doesn't relate the doom and mischievousness of the original. Other than that I couldn't be happier.
Three-day system isn't even challenging.
1) Start new cycle and slow down time
2) Work your way to next dungeon entrance
3) Activate owl statue warp point
4) Reset cycle and slow down time
5) Warp to dungeon entrance
6) More than two hours to complete the dungeon
And if that isn't enough to complete the dungeon, it's probably enough to reach the dungeon item, which you'll take with you when you time-travel, allowing you to bypass the first half of the dungeon on your next attempt.
1) Start new cycle and slow down time
2) Work your way to next dungeon entrance
3) Activate owl statue warp point
4) Reset cycle and slow down time
5) Warp to dungeon entrance
6) More than two hours to complete the dungeon
And if that isn't enough to complete the dungeon, it's probably enough to reach the dungeon item, which you'll take with you when you time-travel, allowing you to bypass the first half of the dungeon on your next attempt.
I think the new moon looks like a mean motherfucker.
Some people will complain about anything, lol.
It is all right. Still prefer the old one, though.
Well, the scarecrow in the trading post and the observatory explains all that. Problem is, many players ignore him and then moan about the time limit. Sigh.
What they need to do is have the scarecrow appear and automatically talk to you as soon as you enter the observatory (which is required at the start of the game to get the moons tear). He will explain the inverted song of time and song of double time. Done.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
That's probably a better way to put it. The key point is that it's meant to pressure you.
It blows my mind that so many people have trouble with this, honestly.
SO. MUCH. THIS.
If I remember well, the areas before the dungeons themselves worked as mini-dungeons. But after you reach the owl statue in front of the temple you just activate it and re-set the days. There is more than enough time to complete the dungeons that way, and you still have that tension on the back of you mind that the time is running up, that makes the game feel so great.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
I never knew why people were so upset about the save system. But you make a great point. For every dungeon, battles were do or die. They should not change that.
Glass Rebel
Member
Can't wait to revisit this. New moon looks awesome, I just hope they don't change the save system.
People crying about this being on 3DS instead of Wii U are annoying as fuck.
People crying about this being on 3DS instead of Wii U are annoying as fuck.
This doesn't validate the suspend points not actually work as save points. Also the reason I believe the game should go slower when on inverted time, isn't so it becomes easier but rather give player the time to enjoy the beatiful world.
I don't remember a lot of MM's overworld because I never spent a lot of time just exploring.
Majukun
Member
yes and no.
there is a timer of 3 (in game) days,after those the moon falls and it's game over
but you can use the three versions of the song of time (normal,reversed and double) to either reset the timer going back to the dawn of the first day,make the timer go slower or faster
much of the game is spent managed time,since every character in the game has his/her own schedule that wil be repeating every time,and to resolve many of their problems you have to do thing in a certain order and do something for/with them at a specific point in the timeline,that's where the "bomber's notebook" comes into place,it will help you take note of that.
Earthpainting
Member
It's not "fun", but it's indeed key to the experience. Not just that, but it's one of the best examples of video games as a medium having something to offer in terms of storytelling. Majora's Mask is an experience you cannot replicate in a painting, book, song, comic, or movie. Majora's Mask is what it is because you feel experience its pressure and loss, which tie in directly to the central themes and vignettes scattered throughout. While I definitely understand that the oppressive atmosphere and design choices may stand in the way of traditional fun, I'd say the enjoyment from Majora's Mask comes from reflecting back on it.
Thats because they are not save points and were never referred to as such by the game or manual.
They are suspend points. And you have three hours each cycle to explore the world. Seriously, you should never run out of time unless you are either terrible at the game, leave your 3DS running without pausing by accident or purposefully let the cycle end.
It's Reyn Time!
Member
I've been waiting for years to replay this, constantly putting off digging out the N64 or GameCube collector's edition in the hopes that this would get the 3D treatment, so happy to see it finally appear.
Got it, thx!
Wait, thats being played on a New Nintendo 3DS
TheUntamedLegend
Member
It's just the border that they used in the Japanese direct.
Cot damn, I just watched the trailer for that. It's so... weird and unsettling. Very different from the trailers Nintendo made the past few years.
I wanted to replay all 3D Zeldas in buildup to Zelda U so this is perfect, in addition to finally being able to play Majora's Mask at a decent framerate.
I wanted to replay all 3D Zeldas in buildup to Zelda U so this is perfect, in addition to finally being able to play Majora's Mask at a decent framerate.
Yeah, I guessed that. But it still fuels my unfounded speculation that it will be enhanced if played on a New 3DS, probably at 60fps.
nintendo pls, I get my PAL N3DS in two weeks and I want you to make the most of the extra hardware goodness
Its brilliant. Immediately lets the viewer know how Majoras Mask is unique.
Also, the postman's inclusion is significant. The first shot of him is him happy, running around clock town doing his work.
The next shot of him later in the trailer is him cowering in his room before the moon destroys the world.
...changing the save system would completely change the feel of the game, as well as remove a huge part of that impending doom.
It wouldnt be a "small change". It would be a significant change, and for the worse.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, right after OoT gets one.
7) Repeat things you already did each time you reset the 3 day cycle.
That was my problem with the game, it became really confusing.
Yeah, this may sound selfish but I was kind of hoping it'd be New 3DS exclusive, with extra power in every area >_>
Majukun
Member
you are confused way too easily
the saving system is perfect as it is...hell,they already made the game easier back then when they ported majora to the west..we already had the streamlined ,easier version of the saving system
Same lol. But yeah, no reason why it wont be N3DS enhanced considering it will likely coincide with the hardware launch.
That was always my strategy, it worked perfect and it actually felt really nice, it was like saying "Fuck you, I can control time and do whatever I want" so yeah it was on of strongest points of the game. My only issue is the suspend thing. Puts too much pressure on me. And let's be realistic, most people don't want the pressure.
Do we want this to be a game only old fans enjoy or do we want more people to enjoy and apreciate it? We need to expand Majora's Mask fanbase so future Zelda titles can implement many mechanics that this game introduced but we never saw again.
PRjumpman124
Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the japanese version didn't have owl statues right? How did they manage??
I never used those things in my game. It wasn't that hard, especially with the Song of Double Time.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
Never played a Zelda game until I bought my 3DS XL. Played Ocarina of Time and A Link Between Worlds. ALBW was a fun game but found Ocarina frustrating. Can't get excited for Majora's Mask at all. It sounds like it'd be more frustrating that Ocarina.
Yeah I know, I love it. It's very unique and something that Nintendo had rarely done the past few years as I've said, if at all. Their recent trailers were more straightforward game trailers, this brings me back to when they were doing more hype-inducing trailers, like the legendary E3 2005 TP trailer. Still the best trailer Nintendo has ever made.
It had them for the purposes of warp points with the Song of Soaring, but the save and quit feature was only in the English releases.