....I'll let you try that one out, Neiteio.
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Majora's Mask 3DS announced!
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....I'll let you try that one out, Neiteio.
Yeah. Just the way the masks and time limit alone are integrated into the gameplay and story blows my mind.
Silent Hill 2 would be another game I would consider "high art" but it doesn't quite go as far as Majora's Mask in terms of gameplay + narrative integration.
zeldarocks
Neo Member
I just bought Ocarina of Time 3D, albeit used from Amazon, to tide me over until Majora's Mask drops...
I already beat OoT 3D before I traded it in, but now I have this urge to replay it...
I already beat OoT 3D before I traded it in, but now I have this urge to replay it...
This is an amazing way to start the page
On a side note, more people need to appreciate the clay figures I posted on the last page
I want them all, with sweet sweet amiibo chips embedded in their hot clay bodies
They mentioned using the source code in the Iwata Asks for Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/zelda-ocarina-of-time/3/5
Majora's Mask 3D is likely running at 30fps and the video was recorded or outputted at 60fps, and Nintendo took advantage of Youtube's recent upgrade for their videos. You can set a recording program like AmarecTV to record video at 60fps even if the source is 30fps. Even if the game is 30fps, recording it at 60fps is going to make it look better.
themagicalkitsune
Member
Or in Link's case, give him a land title deed to wipe his ass with.
Solid SOAP
Member
Think it's possible that this outsells the original?
bobawesome
Member
I think it's pretty much guaranteed to.
edit: Oh, over 3 million...Hmm...I thought it sold significantly less.
It was coming off of Ocarina of Time, it was going to sell.
OOT3D sold about 3million which is under half as much as the original. So idk if MM3D will be able to hit 3mill like OOT3D. Maybe 1.5mil? Thats still good though right?
Then again, the 3DS install base is a lot stronger now than it was when OoT 3D came out.
This is also very very true. How did the N64's install base compare when OOT came out compared to MM? Was it comparable to the difference with the 3DS?
yeah I just figured I'd give some more numbers
bobawesome
Member
Yeah, that's why I swooped in with that stealth edit. With the way the game's discussed I assumed it never broke the 2 million mark.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Considering they already they already have the engine and the assets and it's a remake that should be money in the bank for Nintendo.
I also feel like for some reason OOT had some fatigue when it released that MM just doesn't carry as baggage.
I think that's why the MM3D thirst is real. Lots of people haven't played it or barely tried it back in the day. They like Zelda, but they want something different from the boilerplate template used by other Zeldas (I.E. light/dark world, fairytale castles, green hills, blue skies, Triforce, etc). MM will give them something that has Zelda DNA and Zelda quality but is unlike any other Zelda game.
Professor Beef
Banned
It doesn't help that the Collector's Edition version is awful.
YMMV. I ran into the freezing glitch at a very inopportune moment (thief's hideout on the third night during the Kafei/Anju quest), and the music skipped here and there, but 99% of the time it was fine.
Professor Beef
Banned
That's not really an excuse. It's objectively the worst version.
I don't recall saying I ranked it any particular way. Just offered my two cents.
Typographenia
Member
Yeah, the binding on mine is almost falling apart from having been read so many times.
The MM3D trailer from Nintendo's YT channel is already at a million views lol. The thirst is real
the angry posts will be glorious
Absolutely. Majora's Mask, Super Metroid and Chrono Trigger are always the games that come to mind for me. Amazing how seemingly little influence Majora's Mask has had on the industry compared to those other two, though ._.
Yup, still have mine. One of my favorite Nintendo Power covers.
Anyone remember Camp Hyrule? Nintendo used to hold it online for a week each summer. Basically a Flash-animated map of a Nintendo-themed camp, with different areas based on upcoming games. Each area was essentially a chatroom, but you could talk to people from NOA and participate in contests and such. And over the course of the week, the campgrounds changed. I remember Camp Hyrule 2000 had the moon from MM getting closer and closer, and it crashed on the last day. It was basically my first contact with the online gaming community. People were so hyped for MM.
The reason I bring all of this up, is because now I'm all too familiar with the online gaming community, and it'll be interesting to see how they react to MM nowadays, lol.
The reason I bring all of this up, is because now I'm all too familiar with the online gaming community, and it'll be interesting to see how they react to MM nowadays, lol.
I assume that just has to do with the fact that it can easily frustrate people, so many people didn't give it the time of day. Which is a shame, because that kind of frustration is one of the things that's great about it. They use their mechanics to make you feel how Link feels. And the frustration can lead to even higher highs when you complete a characters long side quest. Majora's Mask actually makes a more impactful "Groundhogs Day" due to its interactive nature. Whereas the movie gives you glimpses of what it would be like to be stuck in a time loop, it never actually lets the audience feel what the protagonist is feeling because you don't actually live out every day. You don't actually deal with the frustration of the same things happening to you over and over again. Some people may say it's not worth it to even explore these themes if it leads to them not having a good time, but I disagree. It's perfect integration of gameplay and theme, and it tackles narrative in a way that only games can, but many people just think games always need to be fun, so I imagine they didn't give the game the time it needs to sink in.
I understand that it's a hard game to play sometimes, but that doesn't make it any less brilliant. Some movies are hard to watch, and they're still good. Like if a movie has a really well delivered disturbing scene, you may not have fun watching it, and it may be hard for you to watch it again, but you can recognize that it's well made because it makes you feel exactly how the director wanted you to feel.
Games are rarely given the luxury to make gamers feel how they want them to feel if that feeling doesn't translate into some form of "fun".
Àlso, not sure if posted, but you remember the Radio Zelda commercials? They were so damn good and in line with the game's atmosphere
Majora's Mask Commercial: http://youtu.be/f5Mf2mp6fms
Majora's Mask Commercial: http://youtu.be/f5Mf2mp6fms
Labrynian Rebel
Member
Now now, don't cheat. Lucina's Boots will never forgive you!
I hope Lucina's Boots didn't see this post I made: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137409775&postcount=5016
That's pretty friggin' badassNow I remembered I used to have the most ridiculous and oversized signature possible back when I frequented Gamespot forums...
I know...
zeldarocks
Neo Member
I only experienced the crashing when playing on an actual GameCube.
When I popped the disk into my Wii and played on there, I NEVER crashed.
Am I the only one that had no problems?
Labrynian Rebel
Member
Oh my God.
I was too young for Camp Hyrule 2000, but I was there for 2004, I think. Now your giving me nostalgia attacks. Do any of you guys remember the flash site for Majora's Mask in 2000? The website scared me but I was so curious and wanted to see the website. I have vague memories, but I can never find that site again. (Stupid flash era websites going offline....)
oh yeah, I remember that website.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I will be playing this in the new 3DS hopefully.. Right Nintendo?
Now I remembered I used to have the most ridiculous and oversized signature possible back when I frequented Gamespot forums...
I know...
It's funny how this was huge back then when HD monitors weren't common, it now looks tiny in comparison heh
You should remake it with the new high-res art Nintendo released.
Amen. o____o
SphericalCrusher
Member
Lost my shit the split second I heard the first part of the music in that Nintendo Direct. Day one is an understatement. I am so stoked.
And anyone who thinks this is going to "Redeem the 3DS" is a fool. The 3DS is on top of the world... you can't redeem something that does not need redeeming.
And anyone who thinks this is going to "Redeem the 3DS" is a fool. The 3DS is on top of the world... you can't redeem something that does not need redeeming.
KeeSomething
Banned
I'm quite excited for the possibility of improvements for MM3D! For example, the changes being made to Clock Town's design seem to allow for no load time between different wings of the town.
Some one posted this on Zelda Universe, and I gotta say that the doorway leading to West Clock Town looks like it won't require any black loading screen. That's awesome! It will make the town feel even more immersive.
Some one posted this on Zelda Universe, and I gotta say that the doorway leading to West Clock Town looks like it won't require any black loading screen. That's awesome! It will make the town feel even more immersive.
I'm quite excited for the possibility of improvements for MM3D! For example, the changes being made to Clock Town's design seem to allow for no load time between different wings of the town.
Some one posted this on Zelda Universe, and I gotta say that the doorway leading to West Clock Town looks like it won't require any black loading screen. That's awesome! It will make the town feel even more immersive.
You can see right into east clock town!! Yeah, they've definitely redesigned the entire town to make it a seamless area. YESSS!!!
I sure as hell will be, I get my PAL New3DS XL in two weeks.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I've yet to play a Zelda I'd categorize as bad. I love them for their quirks and differences title to title. Core mechanics may not change drastically in the 3D era, but each has little nuggets of pure genius inlet in their larger design, be it controls, the worlds themselves, the artistic design, or the stories told.
OoT shook me, because I'd honestly never played a 3D action title with that intelligent of a control scheme. I loved WW for refining the control scheme, for it's incredible artistic design, even if the overworld was barren, and it relied on questionable objectives to pad out playtime. Loved TP for it's masterful dungeon design, even if the story was bland, they padded playtime with a boring overworld and the wolf portions, loved SS for reinventing the control scheme in some truly impressive ways, for its involved story (by Zelda standards at least) and organic level design. In spite of unnecessary padding (kind of a running theme in 3D Zeldas) and a relatively barren overworld.
I have little doubt MM will sit high among that pantheon of incredible gaming experiences with every other 3D Zelda I've played.
And these last couple of pages haven't made the wait any easier.
There haven't been many great new releases recently and aren't many in the foreseeable future either. It's on top of the world by sales alone.
SirNinja
Member
I'm quite excited for the possibility of improvements for MM3D! For example, the changes being made to Clock Town's design seem to allow for no load time between different wings of the town.
Some one posted this on Zelda Universe, and I gotta say that the doorway leading to West Clock Town looks like it won't require any black loading screen. That's awesome! It will make the town feel even more immersive.
The whole town got renovated, it seems. The entrance to the Laundry Pool is now much more obvious, which is good. In the N64 version it was almost hidden; a little passageway in the corner about half the width of an alley. If
Kafei
I love the new clock as well. So compact, yet even more informative than the original. It even shows you exactly where you are in the whole three-day cycle, so you know how you're doing and when to start wrapping things up. (Idea: It'd be neat if the Bombers' Notebook allowed you to overlay one person's schedule over the timer bar, to easily remind you when you can help them out.)
KeeSomething
Banned
I never had a problem locating the laundry pool, but I did have a problem locating Southern Swamp my first playthrough. After getting the Ocarina back and becoming human again, I was stuck for like a week figuring out where to go since the path to Southern Swamp from Termina Field seems so weird. It was like a "cut" in the flat 'tree wall" textures. I had no idea it was the entrance to a new area. Instead, I kept trying to get
Epona
Majora's Mask was the first game I ever pre-ordered and bought on release day (I kept watching the Nintendo promo VHS tape to prepare), and on that very release day, I got grounded from my games for screaming at the TV when I got stuck trying to figure out what to do with the Moon's Tear with seconds left on the clock. I remember my sister flipping through the instruction manual to try and find some kind of hint that would save me while I frantically ran around the town, but all she kept saying was "Play the Song of Time! PLAY THE SONG OF TIME!" with me screaming "I DON'T HAVE THE DAMN OCARINA!"
Ha ha, good times. I had to wait a few days again before I was allowed to play the game again. :/ That was worse torture than having to wait for the game to actually come out!