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[WarMacheen]

I just read that 80 children were on the plane...wtf

 

[Yrael]

Man, victim info starting to come out and that's when it hits you again.

I'm still reeling from seeing the passport information of a 12 year old girl from Holland when it was shown on the livestream. :<

 

[Martian]

We have nothing to gain from escalating the conflict. We will want to bring those responsible to justice, not with bombs but with the ICC.

Yeah this. No one wants a full on war, even though that might feel like its unjust.
Try to find those responsible, but do not escalate things to an even bigger scale with the chance of it running out of hands.

Try to keep your cool (not directed at gaf, moreso towards world leaders) and solve this in the best possible way without causing more causualties

 

[Rom1944]

Looks like emergency workers found the second black box. Somewhat stupid to announce that, insurgents will not lets them transport it away to the Ukrainian-controller territory...


It is of very limited use though, it will just confirm that that was no accident on board or something, which is already clear.

For (sad) laughs - this is how russian tv thinks Putin was flying yesterday from Warsaw to Moscow. (Warsaw was the point where the MH17 and Putin's plane were close to each other.)

And there will be russians that will believe it. A lot of them...

its not impossible that that was the trayectory of Putin plane as earth is not a plane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhumb_line

 

[ConstructMe]

Saw that gore vid on live leak, fucked up to think 300 intelligent life forms were instantly turned into such gruesome imagery. :/ rip.

 

[Jito]

"Attempts to call the plane crash a terrorist act are unacceptable" - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

So the Russians have the separatists backs still, even after potentially shooting down a civilian plane? Disgusting.

 

[Bisnic]

I just read that 80 children were on the plane...wtf

According to that Maylasia Airlines statement from a few posts above, there was 3 of them.

 

[Vastag]

its not impossible that that was the trayectory of Putin plane as earth is not a plane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhumb_line

Go to google maps, use the meassure distance option. The curvature from Warsaw to Moscow is mininal.

 

[Carn82]

its not impossible that that was the trayectory of Putin plane as earth is not a plane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhumb_line

well, that would be quite a steep angle / corner to take, instead of a fluid line.

 

[Nander]

According to that Maylasia Airlines statement from a few posts above, there was 3 of them.

3 infants, i.e. children so young that they weren't traveling in their own seat.

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

Official states will be after United Nations conference, 2 more hours until it starts.

But is this what the prevailing theory is right now? I guess so considering the just announced cease fire and everyone pointing in Russia's direction. Thanks!

 

[TOP SHOTTA]

Just watched a video update on this in which McCain comes right out and blames Putin for it. I have to say.... I like direct-talking politicians but not when McCain does it. I am just not convinced that he is in charge of the full shuite of his mental faculties. In other words he often sounds crazy.

 

[Falk]

its not impossible that that was the trayectory of Putin plane as earth is not a plane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhumb_line

...No.

edit: No, really. How would a Rhumb line by its very definition be travelling fucking south then north at different points of the locus. Are you even posting with your monitor on?

 

[Rom1944]

Go to google maps, use the meassure distance option. The curvature from Warsaw to Moscow is mininal.

well, that would be quite a steep angle / corner to take, instead of a fluid line.

Its more to mantain a direction than to be the minimun distance it easier to navigate in a constant bearing anyways, i dont calim to say that was the flying path i only say that is not that far fecthed.

 

[Ensirius]

3 infants, i.e. children so young that they weren't traveling in their own seat.

Yeah, there are some really disturbing images of children

 

[Aiii]

Live press conference from Malaysia Airlines in Holland (partially Dutch): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ950eRGanY

 

[Chariot]

It was probably already posted, but what the shit?

They already pulled that and apologized, but seriously, somedoy thought it would be a good idea?

 

[Carn82]

189 dutch

 

[strafer]

It was probably already posted, but what the shit?

They already pulled that and apologized, but seriously, somedoy thought it would be a good idea?

Disgusting.

 

[LNBL]

Next of kins will receive an initial $5.000 from Malaysian airlines

 

[SocksAndShoes]

It was probably already posted, but what the shit?

They already pulled that and apologized, but seriously, somedoy thought it would be a good idea?

That's unbelievable.

What the hell is wrong with people?

 

[Yrael]

It was probably already posted, but what the shit?

They already pulled that and apologized, but seriously, somedoy thought it would be a good idea?

And suddenly I have an overwhelming urge to punch something.

 

[Wessiej]

Update: 189 dutch people on board. Goddamn.

 

[Dragon]

"It's not as bad because it was an accident" In fact we don't even know if it was an accident. They could be purposely targeting civilians now.

Fuck all terrorists, their insane beliefs and their disregard for human life, no excuses.

Usually when people use quotation marks they are actually quoting something. You seem to be quoting something no one said.

Also, these separatists are not terrorists really, you're kind of all over the place.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

It was probably already posted, but what the shit?

Even worse, they bought the Google keywords 'Malaysia Airlines' after it happened.

 

[Jito]

Usually when people use quotation marks they are actually quoting something. You seem to be quoting something no one said.

Also, these separatists are not terrorists really, you're kind of all over the place.

I know, if I was directly quoting someone I'd use the quote button.

And they're terrorists now they've shot down a civilian plane.

 

[Dragon]

I know, if I was directly quoting someone I'd use the quote button.

And they're terrorists now they've shot down a civilian plane.

Part of the definition of the word terrorist involves intent. That's besides the fact we don't know for sure who actually did this yet.

 

[sphagnum]

"Attempts to call the plane crash a terrorist act are unacceptable" - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

So the Russians have the separatists backs still, even after potentially shooting down a civilian plane? Disgusting.

It's not a terrorist act to accidentally shoot down a plane. A terrorist act is something intentional.

 

[Jito]

Part of the definition of the word terrorist involves intent. That's besides the fact we don't know for sure who actually did this yet.

I know we don't know intent and don't know who did it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion on the situation?

 

[sphagnum]

I know we don't know intent and don't know who did it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion on the situation?

Nobody said you can't share your opinion, just that your opinion is wrong.

 

[Dragon]

I know we don't know intent and don't know who did it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion on the situation?

Of course? I'm just saying throwing around the word terrorist is not accurate and not needed. You don't have to care what I say really but there it is.

 

[itsgreen]

Latest update:
4 unknown
189 Dutch
29 Malaysian
27 Australian
12 Indonesian
9 UK
4 German
4 Belgian
3 Philipines
1 Canada
1 New Zealand

 

[LNBL]

189 Dutch
29 Malaysian
27 Australia
12 Indonesia
9 UK
4 Germany
4 Belgium
3 filipines
1 Canada
1 New zealand
4 unverified

 

[Carn82]

189 Dutch
44 Malaysian,
27 Australians,
12 Indonesians,
9 British,
4 Belgians,
4 Germans,
3 Filipinos,
1 Canadian
1 New-Zeeland(ian?)

4 unkown

 

[Slayer-33]

I just read that 80 children were on the plane...wtf

Jesus FUCKING CHRIST

 

[TheContact]

Just watched a video update on this in which McCain comes right out and blames Putin for it. I have to say.... I like direct-talking politicians but not when McCain does it. I am just not convinced that he is in charge of the full shuite of his mental faculties. In other words he often sounds crazy.

He was blaming everyone, he thought it was really funny every time he blamed Obama for going to a fundraiser, even Hannity wasn't acknowledging his remarks

 

[neorej]

What a nightmare. And it's fucking disgusting how Putin immediatly put the blame on the Ukrainian government. Shit like that convinces me that Russia is behind this terrorist attack.

 

[Jme]

It was probably already posted, but what the shit?

They already pulled that and apologized, but seriously, somedoy thought it would be a good idea?

Wait, is this real? Source of apology (confirming its real)?

 

[WolfStark]

It's not a terrorist act to accidentally shoot down a plane. A terrorist act is something intentional.

If you press the buttom to launch a rocket, you do it intentionally, it doesn't matter if you didn't want to shoot down a civilian plane. Intentional murder is no less intentional just because it's the wrong victim.

 

[Sadist]

What a nightmare. And it's fucking disgusting how Putin immediatly put the blame on the Ukrainian government. Shit like that convinces me that Russia is behind this terrorist attack.

Indirectly they are.

 

[spekkeh]

Latest update:
4 unknown
189 Dutch
29 Malaysian
27 Australian
12 Indonesian
9 UK
4 German
4 Belgian
3 Philipines
1 Canada
1 New Zealand

Mostly small countries. Putin dodged a bullet there. Now back to normal.

 

[TheDefinitionOfInsanity]

"Russia refuses to take Boeing's black boxes" (stated russian foreign minister) - russian press just now.

 

[bigwinnerx]

Very sorry for the loss of life around the world. As an American, we can also work by proxy to end whatever happened just as Russia acted in proxy shooting that plane out of the sky.

 

[Zoon]

Press service of Russian DM:

Russian radio-technical facilities during July 17 were recording the work of the 9s18 Kupol radar station of the Buk-M1 squadron, stationed in the area of the Styla settlement (30 km south of Donetsk)

the launch of the missiles could also be made from all the squadrons, located in the Avdeyevka settlement (8 km north of Donetsk) or in Gruzsko-Zaryanskoye (25 km east of Donetsk)

Source & more: http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741304

 

[LNBL]

Malaysia airlines is investigating how many Next of kins want to travel to the Ukraine, they want to facilitate that.

 

[CoolOff]

Mostly small countries. Putin dodged a bullet there. Now back to normal.

206 Europeans though.

 

[MikeHattsu]

Wait, is this real? Source of apology (confirming its real)?

Hm... I think that image is a photoshop, but they did buy google adwords:
http://mumbrella.com.au/insurance-firm-sorry-bid-exploit-malaysian-airlines-tragedy-239238

 

[Midnight Phoenix]

Press service of Russian DM:


Source & more: http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741304

itar-tass is a Russian media of course they will post something like this.

 

[Dragon]

If you press the buttom to launch a rocket, you do it intentionally, it doesn't matter if you didn't want to shoot down a civilian plane. Intentional murder is no less intentional just because it's the wrong victim.

The definition of a terrorist is someone who uses terror to facilitate political gain. I'm not sure how that definition applies in this case. Yes the person who pressed the button did so knowing that they'd be killing someone if it was successful, but that's not really what we're talking about.

 

[Nikodemos]

Can anyone translate that new videoclip?