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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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CHEEZMO
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If. I fear it may never be found, the families affected never getting closure, and we'll never have a good explanation.
nah, it'll be found. there's already 'potential wreckage' sites. boeing will put a LOT of money into getting this back. They need to ensure there isn't a serious safety problem with the aircraft. Don't expect an explanation for 3 years or something though. When air france happened they located it after 3 days. But actually fishing the box off the bottom of the ocean took forever. But they did it, because they needed the info. Apparently (can't find a source) Airbus made changes after that based off the data.
I'll post it again.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0
^all verified info. I might actually just post it every time I look in this thread, because I don't know why but wild 'maybe it's in x land and they're all on a beach' type of discussions really irk me. I can't figure out why. Theres a woman at work who watches all these kind of discovery 'air crash investigations' and tells the most BULLSHIT stories about them all, she remembers shit all facts and obviously thinks this one is going to be a miracle story of recovery and everyones fine. God damnit it's frustrating. These poor people are obviously dead.
HAHAHA OH YAH THAT'D BE SO FUNNY!
Thanks.
Lamel
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What conclusion are you drawing from that information? It seems like the debris and radar data are at odds. I'm not one for speculation, and I think a crash is most likely, but at this point, I can't rule anything out.
Betta Lines
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I watched a documentary about that the other day - they changed the pitot tubes (they became filled with ice and could no longer provide air speed readings).
The_Inquisitor
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They already knew. They had put out a bulletin to replace the tubes over time. Once the accident happened they very quickly updated the rest of the fleet.
NYCmetsfan
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Yup this is itCHEEZMO;104373954 said:
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This is an excellent, technical yet clear, description of what we KNOW. Not what we think. great link.
GungHo
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This one?
If that's at all true, they blew some serious fuckin fuel with the hop from Vampi to Gival. You just don't turn those things like that, not even on a broad scale.
You know, this makes me think of the Payne Stewart death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash
But who knows...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash
But who knows...
mckmas8808
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You at home yet? I need this blog post.
At this point I'm just going with:
-some sort of fire broke out in the cargo hold
-the pilot tried to communicate, but a bunch of electronics had been badly damaged
-they tried to turn back manually, but by then the fire had incapacitated everyone on board
-the plane continued to fly in the wrong direction until it ran out of fuel and crashed
Probably something unlikely or dumb about that, but it's the only way all the conflicting reports make any sense to me.
-some sort of fire broke out in the cargo hold
-the pilot tried to communicate, but a bunch of electronics had been badly damaged
-they tried to turn back manually, but by then the fire had incapacitated everyone on board
-the plane continued to fly in the wrong direction until it ran out of fuel and crashed
Probably something unlikely or dumb about that, but it's the only way all the conflicting reports make any sense to me.
Anticitizen One
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But who turned off the transponder??
NYCmetsfan
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Cheezmos post is it.
The blog posts misses they actually called for arms to protect themselves but they never got them. I just imagine them after the fact telling stories about these strange creatures flying and making loud noises. Its just crazy.
BlastProcessing
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The fire would have, which could explain why different transponders shut off at different times.
The amount of fire required to do something like that would likely not allow the plane to fly for 4+ hours.
Yeah, I dunno. I guess if a sudden fire or something inside the flight couldn't account for that, then it's unlikely. Can they tell the difference between it being manually switched off and being disabled by something like that?
Yeah, I guess not. :/
Man, what a weird story. So many diverging points of data, and nothing seems to fit together.
Sectorseven
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What about the second transponder that's supposed to send a signal out upon impact?
Crazy and awesome. They haven't even figured out how to put flights on their arrows.
BlastProcessing
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I am not saying it's a perfect hypothesis. We are certainly missing large chunks of data and it's really hard to come up with any coherent scenario that fits with all of the data we do have. I think a slow burning electrical fire seems more plausible to me than some sort of hijacking for instance. Odds are, the final explanation is going to be some combination of Mechanical failure and Pilot error.
Do commercial airlines have Carbon Monoxide sensors? I would assume they do, right?
toxicgonzo
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If you ask me, I'm wondering if these things just aren't 100% reliable. Surely a part of the airplane that gets used often like the engines would be inspected a lot better than say a part of the aircraft that has a 1-in-a-million chance of ever being used? Or the plane crashed so hard, like a nose dive, it broke even the emergency transponders.
This is the only detail that keeps the conspiracy running that the plane landed safely somewhere. But if that's the case, how many places in the world could it have landed?
(the plane is most likely crashed IMO)
If you suspect its an electrical fire you turn of all electronics.
If there was an electrical fire, the plane wouldn't have turned in the complete opposite direction nor would have continued flying for several more hours.
iJudged
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Why not snap hi-res pix via satellite of the general area, post them online and let us the people disect them, provide the email or whatever system for feedback, and let us go to work.
Anything that we may find suspicious and that may look like something we report to be looked at and ultimately surveyed.
I feel like enough isn't being done.
Also, aren't there any satellite pictures of the area during the flight?
Anything that we may find suspicious and that may look like something we report to be looked at and ultimately surveyed.
I feel like enough isn't being done.
Also, aren't there any satellite pictures of the area during the flight?
That my biggest problem with everything. If it was a huge catastrophic event, why turn around? Right in front of you is Vietnam with hundreds of airports and places a plane that large can land. Turning around just doesn't make sense to me as a response to a malfunction
iJudged
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Beautiful, thank you!
Which doesn't line up with the information regarding the ACARS pings. What makes more sense given what we know is that someone knew enough to switch the transponders off but not enough to pull the ACARS breaker.
That was a scary read. x_x
Would a Pilot know that/could he do it during flight?
Transponders are in the cockpit and they just have a knob you can turn to the off position. The breakers can be pulled in flight and I'm pretty sure pilots are taught how in case of fire or other malfunction. It would be in the manual as well I assume.
No flashes or explosions detected in the region.
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what shocked me about that accident is that it was partly caused by the new learner co-pilot who was holding back the whole time on the control stick. Airbus controls work in aggregate, so the guy that was nosing down a bit, was counteracted by the learner who was holding back a LOT. resulting in a gradual nose up -> Stall -> fall -> death.
Captain figured it out right before impact
Wind's Howling
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It would be somewhat frightening if they find the plane on the exact day and hour it first disappeared. It could happen.
Not as frightening as if the plane re-appeared on radar and landed like nothing happened.
SniperHunter
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Aliens for sure. 240 people to probe in one abduction
Anticitizen One
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Could be lieng/covering up
It could be we live in a computer simulation to keep us happy while we produce energy for a conquering alien race.
toxicgonzo
Taxes?! Isn't this the line for Metallica?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html
It's entirely possible the plane went southwest instead of northwest.
Edit: if true, the plane would have crashed in deep water.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html?hp&_r=0
The plane ascended to 45000ft then descended to 23,000ft in a short period of time.
Take with a grain of salt as the data doesn't really make sense to investigators.
It's entirely possible the plane went southwest instead of northwest.
Edit: if true, the plane would have crashed in deep water.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html?hp&_r=0
The plane ascended to 45000ft then descended to 23,000ft in a short period of time.
Take with a grain of salt as the data doesn't really make sense to investigators.
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