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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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SniperHunter
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it has to be one of the pilots because he turned off the two transponders and acars just as they entered Vietnamese airspace
Even if the hijacking was confirmed, this is extremely doubtful. Possible, but doubtful.
I wouldn't get your hopes up, even if they landed the plane somewhere.
lemmykoopa
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Pilot seemed to be a nice and laid back guy based on his YouTube videos and his posts on aircraft sim forum. Hmmm....
SniperHunter
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if it had landed we would know by now. you cant just land a 777 on an island somewhere, these aren't bush planes we are talking about here
Australia.
It's in 20 minutes. I still think the hijackers are the pilots and I'm leaning towards the suicide/murder motive.
BronsonLee
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Jesus Christ.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Why would the pilot keep flying if suicide/hijack was the reason. Remember, they knew what they were doing. They didn't want to be found, that's the reason we can't find them.
This is insane. I wonder what they want to crash into. This is bat shit crazy
You need quite a big runway to land this plane. A skilled pilot can evade radar detection but without a decent sized runway you aren't putting this beast on the ground.
Any link to watch it?
Yep I think so. That could be also why malaysia airlines didn't say so straight away. Especially Malaysians who would want to sit on another Malaysian airline flight if u knew the pilot was capable of such things
SniperHunter
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he had an end game in mind, but imo his mission failed. i think he ran out of fuel or someone might have decided to fight back, just like egypt air 990
ostrichKing
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There would have to be WAY WAY WAY WAY too many people involved for there to be "no plane". That's just crazy talk...
Catchpenny
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Both pilots? I find it hard to believe that two coworkers came to an agreement to kill themselves and 237 other people during a random overnight flight.
To be fair, I also think whatever really happened will be hard to believe at this point. Unlikely does not mean impossible.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
I really hope so.. Either way this is crazy
If they pinged it at 45k feet man.. The poor passengers and crew.. Fuck man
SniperHunter
Banned
CNN reporter Barbara Star said it was probably a radar glitch, the plane was apparently too far away from military radars, which led to misleading flight info
There's a lot of reasons they could've kept flying even if suicide was the intention. Maybe they didn't want to be found. It'd be difficult (though not impossible) for them to avoid radar detection if they wanted to keep flying. Although looking at the map, if they flew over the islands and then straight down, they could skirt around a lot of country's borders (probably out of radar range). Not sure if they had enough fuel for all that though.
Well I posted about this several pages ago and my initial belief was just one pilot. I'm open to the possibility of both though. The only way it could NOT have been the pilots is if the pilots were in on it or their lives were at risk during the Malaysian ATC -> Vietnamese ATC handoff (since that's when communications went down).
SniperHunter
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yea, if the plane was all over the place (45,000 ft to 23,000 ft) it must have been hell for passengers.
I am betting it was one of the pilots, probably the younger guy
No guns on the plane. That's a huge flight risk. Cabins shouldn't be able to be breached from the outside although depending on how the carrier outfitted the door, crew could be allowed to enter and leave freely (like if the door had a keypad on the outside).
Well the "good" news is that if the plane was at 45k for an extended amount of time, the passengers would all be dead/unconscious so they wouldn't have to live with the fear of knowing they were about to die.
As of Astro Awani twitter, press conference is 1:30, or 40min from now.
I'll be recording (audio only) this press conference this time alongside the post summary. Shit just got real.
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http://english.astroawani.com/videos/live You'll be able to watch it here. Right now it's airing yesterday's press conference so the information may or may not be out of date
I'll be recording (audio only) this press conference this time alongside the post summary. Shit just got real.
edit:
http://english.astroawani.com/videos/live You'll be able to watch it here. Right now it's airing yesterday's press conference so the information may or may not be out of date
Sectorseven
Member
Imagine the logistics that would have to go into something like this, not to mention the piloting skills.
The best time break into a cabin would be when pilots are getting their meals.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Who's the pilot that had a simulator at home?
Meant it as the pilots or single pilot bunkered himself in.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Find it and see what he's been up to.
The older one, not the younger co-pilot which was pictured with the girls.
Chezzymann
Member
At least a hijacking means there's a veeeeerry slight chance some people somehow survived
JaseMath
Member
If the flight was hijacked and it ended up crashing into ocean, who's to say the crash wasn't the result of revolting passengers? Whatever happened, I feel for the families who will very likely never get closure.
I'm in total agreement with this. It seemed fishy then and still does now.
Sectorseven
Member
Evidently home simulators are not uncommon among pilots. Though at this point it's probably worth checking out anyway.
Maybe there was something on board that the hijackers didn't want found? I'm not entirely sure about the suicide motive. You don't organize a suicidal stunt this large then make sure the evidence stays lost so no one knows that you committed suicide. My guess is that it got hijacked and something went wrong in the air, like the passengers/crew fighting back or something, or the hijackers deliberately crashed the plane to make sure that something on board wasn't found.
They haven't even specified who hijacked it. Don't go dismissing things out of hand because they sound convenient, worry about what's likely given the evidence.
Catchpenny
Member
How long could the change in course go unnoticed by others on the plane? Assuming that the radar data was flawed due to distance, and the plane did not make any radical change in altitude.
At first I was thinking several hours if the course change were made in a smooth manner by one of the pilots, since most people would be asleep and it was dark. Thinking about it further, though, I have a hard time believing the flight attendants would not notice a near 180 degree change in course.
At first I was thinking several hours if the course change were made in a smooth manner by one of the pilots, since most people would be asleep and it was dark. Thinking about it further, though, I have a hard time believing the flight attendants would not notice a near 180 degree change in course.
Sectorseven
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If this plane was flying 4-5 hours, could one person pilot that long or would the hijacker need his own co-pilot?
It seems like a long time to be at the wheel all alone.
It seems like a long time to be at the wheel all alone.
I'm not an avionics guy but my phd research is in the safety and dependability space( I work with mixed-criticality integrated embedded automotive systems). From what I know about the 777 and other avionics systems, all communications systems failing would most likely mean multiple failures. These systems are built with redundancy and fault containment in mind.
I find it hard to believe that all comms went out without a single shred of deliberate action.
However, putting the plane down in the middle of the indian ocean makes little sense. If you were committing suicide you could have dropped the plane much quicker. If you had a bigger mission then putting it down in the middle of the ocean is a mundane way to go out.
I find it hard to believe that all comms went out without a single shred of deliberate action.
However, putting the plane down in the middle of the indian ocean makes little sense. If you were committing suicide you could have dropped the plane much quicker. If you had a bigger mission then putting it down in the middle of the ocean is a mundane way to go out.
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Or they had no idea where they were anymore and eventually ran out of fuel.
I don't see that being the case right now. Didn't the plane seemingly go through several waypoints after turning around as well?
Catchpenny
Member
Maybe one of the pilots was mentally ill and became convinced the plane had to be sunk in a remote location because it contained evil or God told him to or whatever.
Not even kidding, it's at least a remote possibility. Everything about this seems crazy, so perhaps it was a crazy act, in the hands of an otherwise capable person.
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