Man of Steel - Official Trailer #2

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CG Routh stoppin' by to say hi.

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So stupid and awful. Looks actually worse on film. Then it switches to Routh for real in space doing his Reeve smile/wink thing which looked fine.
 
which would make it a trailer :)

I mean, if we wanna get down to it, they're ALL ads.
I'm just saying I don't think this is going to be their new theatrical trailer 3 that will be sported in theatres before other movies. There will likely be another big gun trailer before it hits. Same for Trek.
 
I'm just saying I don't think this is going to be their new theatrical trailer 3 that will be sported in theatres before other movies. There will likely be another big gun trailer before it hits. Same for Trek.

Yea Dark Knight Rises had one longer trailer before it came out. This can't be the finale one before June. They can't afford to even with positive internet buzz.
 
I'm just saying I don't think this is going to be their new theatrical trailer 3 that will be sported in theatres before other movies. There will likely be another big gun trailer before it hits. Same for Trek.

No, I get you - I'm just saying this is probably a trailer - and then there'll be another trailer after that.

There were 3 Prometheus trailers before the movie hit. Episode II had four. I think Spider-Man 2 had three different trailers.

WB might be ramping up HUGE before June. Dropping a different 90 sec trailer for the March releases, and then uncorking a 2:30 trailer for late April/Early May might be in the works.

Get a room, Fatboy and Sculli.

If we go in, you're comin in with us.
 
which would make it a trailer :)

I mean, if we wanna get down to it, they're ALL ads.

edit: Here's the thing about that shot of CGI Routh. 1) It's pretty damned good. 2) The suit looks just fine right there (the colors, too) 3) If you're going to spend all that money animating Superman - just make a CG Animated Superman. Have it look like Alex Ross, or Leinil Yu, or Ed McGuinness, or Tim Sale. There's no reason not to.

Well, there is one reason: People still consider animated superhero films to be "illegitimate" somehow. They don't "Count" like live-action superhero movies do.

Even though most superheroes don't translate to live-action very well at all.

If Returns was an animated film and that's what it looked like I would have been beyond pleased, but to switch back and forth in a live action movie ( lol action) just messed with me. Also they did finally get the colors right in that shot, wtf couldn't it look like that for the whole film ( I already know it was the way Singer wanted the suit to look on film). Singer just made some odd choices and they backfired.
 
Figured it was more action heavy, sucks about being shorter, but I'm still pumped. Last person who gave a description and time length was 100% spot on about the last trailer. Could be the same guy.

5 seconds of Zod lol we got 1 second last time.

He said he worked on the trailer cutting.
Zod apparently has some really great lines in the film. I think they need to show that off.
 
He said he worked on the trailer cutting.
Zod apparently has some really great lines in the film. I think they need to show that off.

damn it... arghhh hype.

I still think Shannon is full of shit when he said
he doesn't get to quote Zod's famous line.
I still remember at comic-con they were denying he was Zod. That one still comes across as a wtf when everyone in the world knew he was cast as him.
 
Sadly, that will never happen here and it doesn't happen on any of the other boards that deal with this movie.

People can't let go of the past and pop into threads to shit on the present. Hell on Superherohype it's back to crotch talk and "why is WB hiding his crotch in all the photos, it must be bad" Bring back the red undies talk has started again.

It's sad really that stuff really doesn't matter as long as the costume is recognizable as Superman and the movie is great and correctly portrays him. I always liked the MOS suit I admit the no trunks threw me off but it's grown to be my favorite live screen suit for Superman.
 
It's sad really that stuff really doesn't matter as long as the costume is recognizable as Superman and the movie is great and correctly portrays him. I always liked the MOS suit I admit the no trunks threw me off but it's grown to be my favorite live screen suit for Superman.

That's how I feel. I didn't have an issue with the lack of trunks though cause I had been reading so many new 52 Supes books.

Oddly the lack of the S curl was what threw me off the most and Ive grown to not care anymore.

I love this suit, wish they would actually use it in the comics now.
 
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This issue needs to come out already!

God damn :O

"He keeps reminding me of the old Fleischer superman cartoons. It's a good thing. "

A very amazing thing.
 
Why would he need to bend his knees to brace for impact. He's fucking superman

It'd look pretty weird and phony if he just popped in, standing perfectly straight up. He also moves so fast in that universe that he could get just about anywhere instantly, so you just have to take that sort of thing in stride.
 
Why would he need to bend his knees to brace for impact. He's fucking superman
You can ask the same question regarding probably 90% of the content in a typical Superman story. Taking it all out, however, wouldn't make for a very interesting tale.
 
BH/HHH over on the SHH boards got the Total Film issue today and began writing up some of the article. This is what he posted thus far for anybody interested:
REAL STEAL

Superman gets off to a Flying start in Man of Steel, a bold, believable new dawn for the worlds biggest superhero. Total film talks exclusively to Zack Snyder and his stars about an epic that's as much about the man as it is about the Super...

"Remember Superman the Movie (1978)? The scene where Daily Planet star reporter Lois Lane (Margot Kidder) is interviewing the man in tights? And she says so you're from Krypton?" recalls David S Goyer. "They run the story saying he's from another planet and no one bats an eyelid." He chuckles at the hard to swallow notion. "I always thought that was rather strange."

A yardstick in spandex cinema, Richard Donner's Superman pitched a classic tagline promise: you'll believe a man can fly. If Man of Steel has a mission statement, its to make you believe a man who can fly who also has his feet on the ground. "We've tried to make a Superman movie where he does stuff and you go yeah if I was Superman that's what I'd do" explains Snyder. Even though he's an alien he's more relatable more human or as leading man Henry Cavill puts it "this is a superman for the modern age. Its not betraying anything that Superman is, but it is grounding everything in reality. Its the story of this incredible being who can do incredible things, but whom we can associate with because he's gone through troubling stuff and had to make tough choices..."

Troubling stuff? Tough choices? We want details. But of course we can't have too many of them yet, the filmmakers keeping their cards close to their S-emblazoned chests. This is after all, a Chris Nolan production. "Its something Chris tried hard to do with the Batman films" says Goyer who had a script and/or story credits across the Dark Knight trilogy. "I'm genuinely pleased with how much secrecy we've been able to maintain" he smiles. "There's so much of the movie that people don't know that hasn't been touched upon. The trailers are just the tiniest tip of the iceberg."
Still the first promo does drop a few hints as to what we can expect, tonally at least: a soul-stirring, soul-searching ("you have to decide what kind of a man you want to grow up to be" counsels Costner, playing Supermans adoptive Earth-dad) take on the biggest gun in comics.

Mythic, moody and a bit Malick-y, it brews an existential vibe you wouldn't typically associate with with such an indomitable, can-do icon. "He's lost his place in the world" reveals producer (and Zack's wife) Deborah Snyder. "He's trying to find himself". Although his circumstances are more fantastical than the norm - the whole superpowered, sent-from-the-stars thing - Cavill's character wrestles with some universal questions "What is my journey? What is my purpose? What am I supposed to do? Snyder relates. Facing these conundrums will bring us closer to Clark Kent, she reckons "we can't understand what it's like to have all these superpowers unless you relate to the more human aspects of the character. And if you can relate to him more, you're more engaged. He's not a squeaky-clean Boy Scout."

"He's not Batman-either" as Goyer us keen to stress. "Relatable and realistic doesn't necessarily mean dark" he states. " I think it would be inappropriate for us to approach a Superman film as if we're doing the Dark Knight. The Batman films are a lot more nihilistic; Superman has always been a story about hope". Reshaping the Man of Tomorrow for today's audiences this required a delicate balancing act. "We really wanted him to be warm" explains Charles Roven (another TDK trilogy veteran). "It's not an easy part to play, but Henry does an exemplary job hitting all those colours".

Clothes make the man, goes the old saying - but in Cavill's case, the man made the clothes. In the absence of a new (re)design (more on that later), the Brit-actor screen tested in Chris Reeve's old cossie. Striking in its day, a bit fancy dress now. Yet when Cavill emerged in the glaring get-up "no one laughed" remembers Deborah Snyder. "We knew, that this is the guy". Hubby agrees "it was like Stand back - Superman's here" says Zack Snyder. "If you can walk around in that thing, you're in pretty good shape".

Cavill brought a conviction to his audition but not he admits a surplus of Super-knowledge "having gone to boarding school, I didn't have a comic-book store nearby" he says of his early days "but as soon as I was cast in the movie, that's when I got my full, real introduction to Superman". "He watched the box set, read the comics, noting contracts aswell as key values - "the baseline" as he puts it - running through all incarnations. From there "I managed to piece together this character, maintaining that baseline and having all differences and nuances that our script adds". For all the background research, Man of Steel is no mish-mash. "This is our own thing, Stand-alone", he avers. "It's about Superman, but we're not copying from any one comic book in particular. And that's a good thing, because its an origin-story".

The plots awash in baseline elements; the planet Krypton; biological dad Jor-El (Russell Crowe); growing up as Clark Kent in Smallville; the Daily Planet; Lois Lane (Amy Adams)... David S Goyer worked up a list of "about 20 or 30 core characteristics" around which he built his script. the choice of villain came "pretty early on" he says, though his and Nolan's approach - as with Batman - was to thrash out a narrative then see which baddie fit best. "To an extent, it's a film about first contact, and about him deciding whether or not to embrace his Kryptonian heritage, so Zod was the logical choice. We really couldn't have used any other villain to tell this particular story"

Until now there's only been one General Zod: Terrence Stamp (Superman and 1980's Superman II)' who mustered menace despite looking like a Bee Gee in a space-age jumpsuit. That's about to change with Michael Shannon. He's about to terrorise, tyrannise and really get on Superman's tits. But don't call him a villain "He's not a villain" remarks Shannon. "He's not a villain anymore than any other General fighting to protect his people. He doesn't like to just hurt people and steal diamonds; he's focused on being successful at his job.". Which if Shannon's past roles are anything to go by - Revolutionary Road, Boardwalk Empire; Take Shelter; take your pick - he'll pursue with bug eyed intensity.

But still, the modern Zod will be a shaded beast, not someone going full panto. "I think the way Terrence Stamp approached it - and this isn't any kind if criticism of his performance - there was something kind of detached about it" Shannon muses "Pure, hatred, rage, whatever... I think this [characterisation] is more ambiguous." As for the outfit, it's goodbye to the disco-wear and hello to more battle friendly armour - armour so hardy, it had to be realised in motion-capture "because the real thing would probably crush me".

Which brings us to Man of Steel's most radical, most refreshing, most eyebrow-raising twist on the legend: the binning of the undies. As with all things Superman, Christopher Reeve brought a manly nobility to wearing his pants on the outside. But the red briefs simply don't hold up in 2013. Mind you it was a struggle to get them off, according to Zack Snyder "When we started off I said, 'we need to try and keep the underwear as best we can" he recalls. "We went through many iterations, and eventually I said 'All right it's got to go. 'I tried. I really tried..."

The process of fashioning Supes a first look took roughly half a year, a symbol of Snyder and co's commitment to updating the mythos with ultra-care, (re)building a world that's true but new "we have absolute respect for what was then" assures Cavill. "But now is now. Even Superman in the new comics doesn't have the briefs - he has the red belt, but not the briefs. It's a time for a change". Its also time to ask "why?" Believes Zack Snyder, seeding a link between Man of Steel and his earlier adap of a DC property. "When you think about it, Watchmen is an essay on the 'Why? Of Superheroes" he argues "why we worship them and why that is? I feel versed in the why? Of Superheroes... Chris [Nolan] has that that's why he was interested in me doing this movie". Snyder promises a sense of sophistication previously unseen in a Superman movie.

Also in store is some very cool shit. No spoilers, but there are some major Smackdowns in store. "The action - WOW" gasps Goyer. "If you always wanted to see a movie where where Super Powered beings really go at it, you'll get it in this one".
 
The language in that article was cringe-worthy.

"Superman's Earth-dad"..
"Zod will be a shaded beast, not someone going full panto"
"get on his tits"
"manly nobility"
 
Also in store is some very cool shit. No spoilers, but there are some major Smackdowns in store. "The action - WOW" gasps Goyer. "If you always wanted to see a movie where where Super Powered beings really go at it, you'll get it in this one".

*drools*

Hot damn!!

Everything sounds great.
 
"He's not Batman-either" as Goyer us keen to stress. "Relatable and realistic doesn't necessarily mean dark" he states. " I think it would be inappropriate for us to approach a Superman film as if we're doing the Dark Knight. The Batman films are a lot more nihilistic; Superman has always been a story about hope".

Quoted for complainers.
 
"He's not Batman-either" as Goyer us keen to stress. "Relatable and realistic doesn't necessarily mean dark" he states. " I think it would be inappropriate for us to approach a Superman film as if we're doing the Dark Knight. The Batman films are a lot more nihilistic; Superman has always been a story about hope".

Preach the good word, Goyer.

Edit: Beaten, but whatever.
 
As with the Nolan Batman trilogy, I'm most looking forward to how the villains are handled. I LOVES me some good villains and the previews seem to be unanimous in the opinion that Zod is a badass with some excellent lines.
 
*splooge*

My hype level is reaching insane levels and that article made it worse.
 
Here's the rest of the article:
The visual effects are "pretty out there" agrees Zack Snyder, but pre-empts suggestions of CG overload by adding that there's "tons of Henry" i.e. practical elements - describing the spectacle as "Super-Organic". Grounded remains the watchword "It's amazing what [Superman] is capable of but he's a slightly more down to Earth version of the character." he explains "I don't think he can hold up a continent.... A little dig perhaps at Superman Returns (2006) - Bryan Singer's loving homage to Richard Donner's vision which, despite critics blessing and $391m at the box office, was pegged disappointing, enough to keep Kal El off the big screen for seven years. "Superman has been broken for a little while" reckons Zack Snyder, going on to draw a parallel with Nolan's rehabilitation of a post Schumacher Batman.

"[Chris] respected the character and what he could say in a modern world about ourselves. That's kind of what we've tried to do with Superman. It's important that we get him fixed and get him right".

As Cavill points out, Man of Steel's pedigree is virtually bulletproof. "I mean stellar cast," he enthuses (other big names include Diane Lane and Laurence Fishburne, as Clark's adoptive mum and Daily Planet editor respectively). "It's a perfect storm of incredibly talented people". He's confident too that its a Happy Marriage of style and substance. "Sometimes you want a whizz-bang action movie. Other times you want something introspective, that really provokes something inside. This hits a wonderful medium between the two". As to what the film's really about, it's right there on the label. "He's a man but he's a man of steel" says Goyer. "It's very much the theme of the movie, so it's embedded in the title, which we settled on at the very beginning. He's human but he's not human". We'll gain more insight into those extra-terrestrial roots than previous movies. No longer is planet Krypton what Michael Shannon describes "an ethereal floating crystal mirror thing" from Donner's film. "We try to flesh out Krypton and its different political factions, it's fauna, it's science" says Goyer. All if which means more screen time for Russell Crowe's Jor El than punters are expecting. "It's not a cameo" Goyer confirms. "I think people think he's playing the Marlon Brando role, which isn't necessarily the case."

Go Kryptonians, then. But what about the wider DC Universe? Does that have a part to play? "I can't really say" is all Zack Snyder will say. If reports in the trade are to be believed, the fate of a Justice League movie is hinged on how high Man of Steel flies at the Box Office. Whether or not Easter eggs have been set in place, hoping if hatching a super team franchise to rival The Avengers, the director is eager for Superman to return. "My hope is that we establish him and that he's a viable, awesome character that everyone is interested in seeing continue", he says. "He's the biggest superhero in the world. Or should it be. He's Superman, for gods sake!".

Man of Steel opens 14 June and will be reviewed in a future issue

Here's the Amy Adams interview within the same article:
SUPERWOMAN

NEW LOIS LANE AMY ADAMS TALKS BRUISES, INVISIBLE DOORS AND A FEAR OF FLYING...


How would you pitch Superman and Lois relationship in this film?
I would say that they're at odds and then they're... friends, you know?

How was your first meeting with Zack Snyder?
I could tell he was going to be really collaborative and really focused - not only on the visuals but on the characters journey. I wanted to play Lois so badly, so I tried not to look too eager!

What did you most want to convey with your version of Lois
I wanted her to be a woman other women could relate to. And not be sort if a pest. Lois can be kind of omnipresent, turning up at very convenient times - which she does! - but you understand her reasons.

You've been in the running before...
When J. J. Abrams and Brett Ratner were planning a version, I actually did a screen test with Matt Bomer. And then when Superman Returns came round I read again. So this was my third go at it.

You did get to play a baddie in TV's Smallville, though...
I played a girl who was quite heavy then lost weight quickly... I remember spending a lot if time in prosthetics!

Did you go straight from The Master to Man of Steel?
It was about three days, I think. By the time [The Master] was done I was kind of in a dark place, but Zack has this amazing, infectious energy you get caught up with. He's all "Come on, lets get the game going!", like a football match.

How physically demanding was it?
My God, I got off lucky. Henry has tales to tell! I chose correct in playing a mortal rather than a superhero. I fell on my hip and created quite a bruise, but that was it.

Was there any intensive green screen work?
The more intense work was always with another actor, but I had scenes where I had to see things that weren't there. It's the first time I head to run through invisible doors before they close.

What did you get up to between takes?
Oh, no good. I'm always up Toni good. I took naps, I knitted. Meryl [Streep] taught me how: I don't know how many finished products I have,but I've started plenty!

What superpower would you like to have?
Oh, I'd wanna know what people are thinking. I'm not a fan if flying, which I guess is strange for a film like this...
 
"The visual effects are "pretty out there" agrees Zack Snyder, but pre-empts suggestions of CG overload by adding that there's "tons of Henry" i.e. practical elements - describing the spectacle as "Super-Organic". Grounded remains the watchword "It's amazing what [Superman] is capable of but he's a slightly more down to Earth version of the character." he explains "I don't think he can hold up a continent.... A little dig perhaps at Superman Returns (2006) - Bryan Singer's loving homage to Richard Donner's vision which, despite critics blessing and $391m at the box office, was pegged disappointing, enough to keep Kal El off the big screen for seven years. "Superman has been broken for a little while" reckons Zack Snyder, going on to draw a parallel with Nolan's rehabilitation of a post Schumacher Batman."

Nice to get real info on the effects and how Henry is being used. All I heard was CGI for everything before.

lol that was awful. He forgot to say a continent made out of kryyyyyyyyypppppntonite, but gets the shit beat out of him by Kumar and the gang and struggles with a plane.

""My hope is that we establish him and that he's a viable, awesome character that everyone is interested in seeing continue", he says. "He's the biggest superhero in the world. Or should it be. He's Superman, for gods sake!".

Damn right Zack.
 
Cavill really is Supes... damn. Still I do wonder what he would look like with the classic S curl.

Amy looks hot :o

So many attractive females in this movie... argh drool and man crush on Cavill lol
 
I think you need to at least try to temper your expectations on this, Matrix. Don't want to see you disappointed because you went in expecting your wildest dreams to be realised. This isn't 2009.
 
I think you need to at least try to temper your expectations on this, Matrix. Don't want to see you disappointed because you went in expecting your wildest dreams to be realised. This isn't 2009.

haha I know, Returns is my terminator salvation already though

I don't need a repeat of my 2006 on here. Dm seems to be keeping himself in check much better than I.
 
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