Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Wow.
"No idea what you're talking about but I'm going to guess it's BS"
Is basically what you just said
Actually, it isn't at all. No, what I'm saying is, based off of the post he was quoting describing it, it sounds like its not definitive and you could see it a different way and assuming the guy before him wasn't in fact lying, it doesn't sound like demonstrative proof.
You guys are looking to argue way too much by assigning huge values to everything; tropes aren't bad unless misused.