MMaRsu
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Yes Valorant seems like a lame version of CS to me.
Ive put many many hours into Apex though
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Marathon Alpha Impressions
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Yes Valorant seems like a lame version of CS to me.
Ive put many many hours into Apex though
clarky
Gold Member
You can que in any team size you like but there is no dedicated solo or duo matches.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Correct no solo only game mode as of now you will be paired with 2 randoms as only supported mode is trios
Edit - I stand corrected you can queue solo and not play with randoms, just havent tried it and admittedly didn't see it
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
Isn't bolded incorrect, as you can enter matches solo?
Anyway, one of the producers for Marathon stated that they will be looking into solo Q, but right now they only have trios to make sure teamplay mechanics work.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I don't know I have honestly ever just played with my son and we always have a 3rd random can you turn off fill squad?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Ok, I trust you as a poster and a fan of good gaas games so I'll reset my opinions and keep an open mind going forward.
I'll deffo give an alpha or beta a go and play with an open mind. I'm a big bungie fan so I do want them to nail every game they make and bring us something special.
clarky
Gold Member
Could go either way, It certainly won't be a smash hit on launch or anytime soon after by the way sentiment is right now, i'd be amazed if they turned it around in just a few months.
But like you say there will be a beta nearer launch, so we can all try it out. So nothing lost if it does turn out to be rubbish.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
No idea exactly as I'm not in the alpha, but I've seen multiple streamers play solo, as well as people talking about it in here amd various videos.
Btw, just looked up the interview I was talking about.
Here's the interview with the Assistent Game Director. They address solo Q at 03:10 in the video:
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Found a video, the option is right there at the start at the bottom of the screen:
You must have overlooked it then, I guess.
clarky
Gold Member
Yeah you can turn off squad fill, been watching quite a few Duo's.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Thank you and
Killjoy-NL
for pointing that out to me.I have always just played with my son and he gets us in games but will for sure give solo a try and see how painful it is
clarky
Gold Member
Solo looks horrific. 100% need to be that invisible dude to stand any sort of chance.Thank you and
I have always just played with my son and he gets us in games but will for sure give solo a try and see how painful it is
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MayauMiao
Member
Its bad enough the rooms are full of boxes and crates, but now enemies look like cardboard boxes stuck together.
This explains perfectly why Marathon does not work as an extraction shooter…. The high TTK and revive mechanics with aim assist will ultimately kill this game. Making a casual experience in an extraction game is ridiculous. Not allowing people to use proximity chat and/or voice chat against opponents in a PVP game is the most weak ridiculous things you can ever do.
This soft era nonsense trying to police competition will kill any video game for playstation in the future.
This game will fail and they deserve to for being so clueless…
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clarky
Gold Member
I quite like the aesthetics. If* it means they can churn out content and updates at a fair clip then im all for it, plus this looks like it will run at a billion frames a second on my rig.
*Probably not lol but I still like the artistic design personally, i realise a lot don't. At least it's not the next generic Unreal 5 game.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
MayauMiao
Member
On the bright side, it will be easier for cosplayers to create the costume with just cardboard boxes.
clarky
Gold Member
Could get a cross over event going with them cardboard Nintendo Switch peripherals.
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These lames at Bungie also decided to turn off friendly fire… This game doesn't make sense as an extraction shooter. What's even the point of playing solo with a high ttk and dumb revive and DBNO mechanic…
You can't even make friends through proximity chat just throw this game away. This sounds like the worst extraction shooter experience you could ever have.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Yeah, this made no sense to me.
Halo had Grunts, Jackals, Elites, and Hunters. Instantly distinguishable.
The same robot with 6 different paint jobs is so bizarre to see.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Then let them know. If enough people do so, they'll take notice.
sainraja
Member
The reception to Destiny when it first launched was pretty mixed though; lack of content was cited as one of the reasons. It wasn't exactly a "smooth" landing either. I will give Marathon a try and if the game clicks for me, I'll continue playing, but the art style and design of the characters isn't the most appealing. I wish I could just take my Destiny character into it.
If I find the game to be fun, then I will adjust to the rest.
clarky
Gold Member
Yeah when I say turn it around, I meant the sentiment towards the game.The reception to Destiny when it first launched was pretty mixed though; lack of content was cited as one of the reasons. It wasn't exactly a "smooth" landing either. I will give Marathon a try and if the game clicks for me, I'll continue playing, but the art style and design of the characters isn't the most appealing. I wish I could just take my Destiny character into it.
If I find the game to be fun, then I will adjust to the rest.
Marathon itself looks pretty fun, with some glaring flaws that I hope they fix before launch. I'll be playing come launch barring a beta disaster.
clarky
Gold Member
Not saying that Marathon will be great but people forget that this is an Alpha. More than half the game is missing right now.
Plus Tarkov has been in EA for what 8 years? Maybe Marathon will get there in the same time frame lol.
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
Depends. If they take a Raid-like approach with the Marathon map (4th map) and tie it into ranked as some have alluded to, it could potentially give Marathon it's own identity in the genre.
Bumblebeetuna
Banned
So how does the revive mechanic work in Marathon? Surely it'll be limited somehow. In Hunt, when a player is dead, the enemy can burn the body. If the body burns completely, they can't be revived. If you are revived, you revive with a chunk of your health missing. After two revives, if you die again, you stay dead.
There is also an element where if you are holding one of the bounty tokens, you can sacrifice a chunk of your own health and revive a teammate who has been completely killed (body burned or died three times).
I assume maybe Marathon will limit revives somehow, otherwise there is no point in playing solo.
clarky
Gold Member
At the moment you can self res when downed. But you can get resurrected by team mates when fully dead, unlimited with no timer right now.
I'd expect this to be changed for the Beta/Release.
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L*][*N*K
Member
I agree with you, but that is not how people see it they literally look at the final number
Bumblebeetuna
Banned
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The Finals does this trophy system where you can pick up your dead teammates trophy and run away to rez them in relative safety. It makes 1 v 3s much more interesting because the solo player can make important, non DPS plays.
Marathon doesn't have that.
That's not good.
Marathon doesn't have that.
That's not good.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Why is it not good?
In Hunt you can't do that either and if your teammates bodies are burned, you can't res them at all.
Joshmyersbv
Member
I played the Alpha for a little bit and I was bored out of my mind. Maybe it will be better with friends but the gameplay loop doesn't work for me.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It creates "story moments" and provides for a wider gameplay experience.
Making rezzing teammates difficult leads to a more linear "push the numbers advantage" experience. That's runs opposite of making the game fun for the long term.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
I don't necessarily disagree, just pointing out the penalties for rezzing work in Hunt.
Personally, I'm cool either way.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It might work in Hunt better because solo play is more viable. You can knock someone in Hunt and still keep your location hidden. In Marathon and The Finals that looks to be nearly impossible.
I also think Hunt will largely be forgotten in 10 years as significantly better Extraction games are released.
It's unlimited…. It wouldn't be so bad if they at bare minimum lowered the TTK the issue is this game relies on aim assist which would make the situation worse.
clarky
Gold Member
Not sure I follow you, how would aim assist make what worse?
Every shooter on the market uses some form of aim assist on a controller.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So I did try one round solo and I would rather drink paint thinner and drive baboo chutes under my nails then ever do that again
Give me a proper solos at launch and maybe I buy it
Give me a proper solos at launch and maybe I buy it
clarky
Gold Member
Did try to warn you........
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
You know I have said a few times here the games not really for me but I think its just not having solos irks me more than anything
Sure I enjoy gaming with my son but he is super busy with his work so its hard for us to carve out time plus I am just a solo type of player, play a game and get up and move around a bit or whatever
Just like earlier I got a little bit of time and thought about knocking out my COD dailies for the BP but instead really wanted to try solos here
Game needs some refinements but I really think its something I would enjoy if everyone was solo
clarky
Gold Member
I watched a video the other day and someone said the testers have been telling Bungie for 3 years the game needs solos and duo's but they won't have it.
You know I have said a few times here the games not really for me but I think its just not having solos irks me more than anything
Sure I enjoy gaming with my son but he is super busy with his work so its hard for us to carve out time plus I am just a solo type of player, play a game and get up and move around a bit or whatever
Just like earlier I got a little bit of time and thought about knocking out my COD dailies for the BP but instead really wanted to try solos here
Game needs some refinements but I really think its something I would enjoy if everyone was solo
I think they said it might come later but at the moment they are focused on balancing it for trio's. I wonder if they will change their tune after the Alpha, because everyone is saying the same as you.
begotten
Member
World class FPS developers who are secluding away single-player gamers (large audience) and making a pure matchmaking niche-genre paid product.
I seriously wonder what the expectations are for this game from Bungie? To me Marathon should be a F2P side-project running alongside some new Destiny thing- indicated by its <300 employees working on it out of the total 900+ left after all the layoffs.
But I feel like they have a totally different mindset?
I seriously wonder what the expectations are for this game from Bungie? To me Marathon should be a F2P side-project running alongside some new Destiny thing- indicated by its <300 employees working on it out of the total 900+ left after all the layoffs.
But I feel like they have a totally different mindset?
clarky
Gold Member
Single player one and done type games are not where the big money constant revenue streams are. Very few Dev's can afford to pump out 1 triple A game every 5-7 years and expect to survive.
coachmcguirk91
Member
Game is like crack to me. I'm the perfect audience for it tho. I love squad based hero shooters, like Apex, and games where there are consequences for dying, like Dark Souls
I just picked up my first purple shield 20hrs in, which gives me max shield. I haven't even seen a teammate hone one. I have extracted 3 times in a row with it. The game increases the value of your items each time you extract with the same gear too. You can then sell it on the black market. Amazing dopamine rush
I just picked up my first purple shield 20hrs in, which gives me max shield. I haven't even seen a teammate hone one. I have extracted 3 times in a row with it. The game increases the value of your items each time you extract with the same gear too. You can then sell it on the black market. Amazing dopamine rush
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Robot Carnival
Member
so, I played both Destiny games a lot and I had never played by extraction shooters before. when I heard Bungie is making a Marathon extraction shooters I was some what interested. I actually don't mind slower gameplays and I'm actually into the overall design that I see here. I had watched a few playthroughs of the alpha and I am still optimistically interested. but I really do hope they make some changes when it comes to solo players and the whole proximity chat situation. I hope they can pull this one off.
Bumblebeetuna
Banned
Unlimited respawns. They really are trying to make babies first extraction shooter.
