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Where did all these bitchy kids come from that are on Gaf nowadays??? @mods
Not every multiplayer game needs to be free just because it has a battle pass included .
Sony also has a large group of players that love to play more then just single player games.

Im looking forward to the game . Gaf is dying . Yall bitch at every multiplayer game .

 

[AutumnLeaves]

Jesus Christ. Remember when you had games like UT and Quake 2 and UT 2K4 that had like 50+ maps and 5 different game modes? Hell, even the original Unreal ('98) had a multiplayer with different game modes.

This is just atrocious. And spoiling the name of Marathon too. Just...ugh.

 

[kevboard]

From Zuzu's post in the other thread.

Sounds like the 3 maps are small. Luke talks about maps at this point of his video.

yup, and the map they have shown during the stream looked also relatively simple in terms of design.
I said this in another thread, but this game looks almost too streamlined and too simple.
it runs the risk of feeling really stale after only a week or so. the map design doesn't look like it's made for an extraction shooter, and more like it's made for a PvP game like a battle royale.

but not only the map design is like that, everything else they have talked about and shown looks super simplified compared to something like Tarkov. and if it's oversimplified they'll have a problem

 

[TintoConCasera]

It's not $70.

lmao at calling your own game a "premium title".

Reminds me of when the callisto protocol started talking about "AAAA" games, which in the end didn't turn to be that good.

 

[Astray]

The pricing could break this imo.

We live in an era where F2P is the norm, it's very hard to convince people to buy into your game when they can just download Marvel Rivals or Apex Legends and figure out if they like them or not without paying a cent.

 

[LordCBH]

lmao at calling your own game a "premium title".

Reminds me of when the callisto protocol started talking about "AAAA" games, which in the end didn't turn to be that good.

Premium meaning "it will cost money to play" not premium as in "damn this shit is so goddamn premium compared to everything else."

 

[StueyDuck]

It'll never be a concord failure.

however, this is never gonna reach Destiny numbers.

The sad thing for me is that back in like the 2010s this would have just been the side multiplayer to a massive awesome SP campaign.

Whats the point of all this world design and lore etc when the gameloop is just find item and leave with item , take item in and find new item.

It reminds me of how CoD DMZ was fun for a whole week then it just became a shitty second job, "Loot 10 crates in this area"... wow thrilling quest design.

 

[kindaGoth]

I like Bungie and I'd be very interested if there was no Battlepass. I don't mind paying but I'm done with games that are cluttered with battle-pass menus everywhere. The kind of games where my eyes are just glazing over the menus to find the "Play" button. I'm so tired of ads in games. I just won't do it.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Premium meaning "it will cost money to play" not premium as in "damn this shit is so goddamn premium compared to everything else."

Oh okay. I think they should've chosen a different word, thought it was the later for sure.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Apex Legends for poor with three maps??
Development time of 6-7 years for what??

 

[readonly]

I'm sad that Bungie gunplay is locked behind this game.

 

[LordCBH]

Oh okay. I think they should've chosen a different word, thought it was the later for sure.

Fair enough lol. This isn't the first time I've seen buy 2 play titles referred to as "Premium" thanks to the rise of F2P. Probably a nicer way of saying "open your wallet, nerds."

 

[Gamer79]

Sony keeps wasting time and money with this live action bullshit. Its no wonder you see such few franchise games on the PS5, they are wasting time with this bullshit. Another concord flop

 

[Elginer]

 

[Ogbert]

Dead on arrival at that price.

Why is every company determined to only make games for Monster drinking ADHD headshot twitch nerds?

So lame.

 

[LRKD]

Strikes me as incredibly out of touch. I really hope they stick to their guns and release it at $70, it flops, it goes ftp, and then it flops again. The best thing about gaming in 2025 isn't playing games, it's watching these dog shit games crash

 

[Aenima]

lmao at calling your own game a "premium title".

Reminds me of when the callisto protocol started talking about "AAAA" games, which in the end didn't turn to be that good.

Premium title means its a paid game, cuz free games also known as F2P are Freemium. Its a monetization model. An indy game that costs 5 bucks in the google store is a premium title.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Premium title means its a paid game, cuz free games also known as F2P are Freemium. Its a monetization model. An indy game that costs 5 bucks in the google store is a premium title.

First time I heard about it.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This isn't directed at you HeisenbergFX4 , only the absent Tom Henderson.

Tom Henderson doesn't work in gaming.

He wouldn't be able to give you the reasons why Bungie is waiting to announce price. I'm sure Bungie leadership could give a few reasons why they're doing it.

Games media works in games media because they're not intelligent enough to work in games.

Yet he is not wrong in anything he said, almost like he has the pulse of the majority of gamers vs those super smart scientists at Bungie

 

[Dr. Suchong]

Wow lol.
How tone deaf is that?

 

[Aenima]

First time I heard about it.

And now you learned something new.

Freemium and premium are two different business models for pricing products and services. Freemium offers a free basic version, while premium requires an upfront payment or subscription

 

[nial]

lmao at calling your own game a "premium title".

Reminds me of when the callisto protocol started talking about "AAAA" games, which in the end didn't turn to be that good.

Take out the in-game ads thing as that's for mobile games only, and this basically explains it.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

he has the pulse of the majority of gamers

 

[N30RYU]

Free with PS+

 

[StueyDuck]

I don't know if it's been said already but the grand daddies and OGs of the genre are all paid experiences.

not sure why people are insisting it should be F2P, Tarkov, Hunt:Showdown, The division 1+2, Sea of theives are all paid experiences.

And many newcomers are paid too like gray zone, marauders, that forever winter game.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Sure seems like the majority of gamers are taking Bungie behind the wood shed for their "premium game" but no pricing details.

And of all people you acting like you know better

 

[BlitzerRadic]

First time I heard about it.

Well where did you think the term "freemium" came from?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Sure seems like the majority of gamers are taking Bungie behind the wood shed for their "premium game" but no pricing details.

And of all people you acting like you know better

Michael Pachter thinks the sun will rise tomorrow too.

Gamer brain.

 

[nemiroff]

Premium? Looks f2p to me..

 

[TintoConCasera]

Well where did you think the term "freemium" came from?

From the ass of some marketer. I've never refered to anything as freemium or premium, those words mean nothing and are there just to make products seem more enticing than they are. A game is either F2P or not, anything else is marketing noise.

 

[Walliwallipaloo]

"Marathon will be an extraction shooter"

Because of course it will.
sigh

And this is why videogames suck now - letting them be investor-driven means that devs will chase whatever fad seems to be getting money at the moment, until the bubble pops.

 

[LordCBH]

Free with PS+

Honestly for buy 2 play live services, this wouldn't be a terrible idea.

 

[Ogbert]

Arrogant Sony AND Arrogant Nintendo on the same gen ?!

It's not even arrogant Sony. Arrogant Sony still make good games.

It's shit Sony.

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

Where did all these bitchy kids come from that are on Gaf nowadays??? @mods
Not every multiplayer game needs to be free just because it has a battle pass included .
Sony also has a large group of players that love to play more then just single player games.

Im looking forward to the game . Gaf is dying . Yall bitch at every multiplayer game .

 

[Johnny Concrete]

They are probably just gauging the reactions from the reveal and alpha test before committing to a price.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

At least it's not woke. I know some here would pay a premium for that alone. Ha!

 

[Mattyp]

If not free it's going to die instantly, surely they know this?

 

[nial]

It's not even arrogant Sony. Arrogant Sony still make good games.

It's shit Sony.

That's why they won GOTY last year... oops.

 

[Madjaba]

Where did all these bitchy kids come from that are on Gaf nowadays??? @mods
Not every multiplayer game needs to be free just because it has a battle pass included .
Sony also has a large group of players that love to play more then just single player games.

Im looking forward to the game . Gaf is dying . Yall bitch at every multiplayer game .

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

If not free it's going to die instantly, surely they know this?

It won't die.

The only other Extraction shooters on console are Hunt and Vigor. This will likely outperform both, though I'm not expecting by much.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

That's why they won GOTY last year... oops.

And won best multiplayer

 

[ComputerBlue]

Full price? Hahaha

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

Free with PS+

But wont this cannabalize sales of the game ?
PS+ treating this like some pass.....for games?

 

[Boss Mog]

I'll be doing my part by not buying it.

 

[Z O N E]

Yeah, you're probably right. I think regardless of what they say it will put people off, including myself. But I can see them doing something like this, which is highly probable:

Base Game - $40
- Just includes the base game

Enhanced Edition - $50
- Base Game
- Starter Pack (loot and stuff)
- Battle Pass

Premium Edition - $70
- Base Game
- Starter Pack
- Battle Pass
- 1 new runner (character class)

Yeah, this is what I'm leaning on which is probably why they won't say anything.

Sure the base game might be cheap... but realistically, people will usually buy the starter pack or the best edition available for extraction shooters/PvP games.

So in this case, to get the best start in gear and not be at a disadvantage, people will feel like they have to spend $70.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

If not free it's going to die instantly, surely they know this?

Bungie Magic

 

[Success]

Any sort of initial price tag will kill this game.

GG Bungie.

Marathon will shutdown in 4.5 months.

 

[Evolved1]

DoA. I'd bet money on it.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Games media works in games media because they're not intelligent enough to work in games.

oh boy

 

[Guardian Monkey]

This isn't directed at you HeisenbergFX4 , only the absent Tom Henderson.

Tom Henderson doesn't work in gaming.

He wouldn't be able to give you the reasons why Bungie is waiting to announce price. I'm sure Bungie leadership could give a few reasons why they're doing it.

Games media works in games media because they're not intelligent enough to work in games.

Since we are talking about Bungie funnily enough the lead of Vault of Glass / Taken King was a writer for Kotaku and 1UP before then.

Luke Smith (writer) - Wikipedia

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