Don't see how anyone could say this without knowing the actual split between the two bundles. Rankings aren't going to show that.
Same thing is someone say Halo 5 would sell huge amount Xbone consoles.
Don't see how anyone could say this without knowing the actual split between the two bundles. Rankings aren't going to show that.
Same thing is someone say Halo 5 would sell huge amount Xbone consoles.
I don't get why people think Sony won't do a price cut this year. In October, the PS4 will be out in the market for almost 23 months, which is the perfect time IMO. Not to mention the PS4 will sell tons of units during the holidays if it's priced at $349, let alone $299.
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How does that relate to Amazon rankings?
lol the Xbox One predictions this month remind me of November 2014 3DS predictions, getting sandbagged hard by a lot of people
The sad thing is they still have ACU inventory.Don't see how anyone could say this without knowing the actual split between the two bundles. Rankings aren't going to show that.
That's not to say that I feel the MCC bundle greatly helped though -- if anything I think it simply split sales that would have all been AC Unity if the MCC bundle didn't exist.
Preseason anyway, doesn't matter. Abriel's prediction doesn't seem to contradict amazon either soo.....lol the Xbox One predictions this month remind me of November 2014 3DS predictions, getting sandbagged hard by a lot of people
The PS4 will most certainly see an official price drop in FY2015-16.
Don't think Sony will bother with a price cut this year, they don't have nay competition outside of NA and UK so why bother?
The sad thing is they still have ACU inventory.
Don't think Sony will bother with a price cut this year, they don't have nay competition outside of NA and UK so why bother? XB1 had some drastic cuts to beat PS4 in NA last year, don't think it's something Sony would lose sleep over when they are number 1 in every other region. Batman, MGS V and other bundles is what I see Sony doing to increase value this year, high profit margins would be nice and all.
Yeah, unless they see a change in other regions outside of the US and UK, it wouldn't make any sense for them. Does anyone remember the Wii first official price cut?
Why? We don't know how many they made.
The PS4 will most certainly see an official price drop in FY2015-16.
It was meant to be holiday only.
makes sense to drop the PS4 console price with Morpheus (presumably) coming out next spring.
They're going to need to get some reasonably priced bundles out if they want to move VR, I think.
It was? MS expected 3 Million (NPD) during November and December alone?
You also factor in the CoD and (limited) White SKU, they probably expected a lot with the price drop.
~3 million is around the 360's peak holiday years (2010 and 2011)
Agreed. A price drop to $349 may not be enough to get a big boost in sales as the XB1 has been $349 for months now. Going all the way down to $299 will also allow Sony to have a reasonably priced Morpheus bundle next year. With the PS4 built with quick price reductions in mind, Sony should only have to make minor losses if they slash the price to $299.I'm thinking we'll see a drop to $300 for holiday 2015. With two years of excellent sales at $400, they're ready for a discount, and I can't see them going with a half-measure like a $50 cut.
Well the Wii launched at $249 which was lower than any console launch after 2000.
If the PS4 follows the Wii then that means you're suggesting we won't see a price cut till September 2016. It will certainly be before that.
The PS1 saw its first price drop 8 months after launch in the USA.
The PS2 saw its first price drop 18 months after launch in the USA
The PS3 saw its first price drop 8 months after launch in the USA
The PS4 has now been on the market for 17 months.
Yeah, I'm expecting Morpheus to cost a decent amount of money so a PS4 price drop alongside it would be smart.
I didn't know that, frightening the PS4 has been out this long already! A price drop will probably be this year then, there's still 8 months left and no cut would be unprecedented for a Playstation console out for such a length of time. Question then would be the extent of the price drop, I'd guess they might go for the jugular and cut down to $299 in time for the holidays depending on the manufacturing costs of the PS4. A price cut to that extent would take care of business outside everyone that is not UK and US, even in those regions at that price (and assuming XB1 has a similar cut) I would expect the PS4 to take number 1 easily during the winter months.
Sony issued the first price cut to the PS2 to effectively kill the competition in Xbox. Now that Sony know they will stay in first place for quite some time, they don't need a price cut yet.
The PS4 will most certainly see an official price drop in FY2015-16.
Well the Wii launched at $249 which was lower than any console launch after 2000.
If the PS4 follows the Wii then that means you're suggesting we won't see a price cut till September 2016. It will certainly be before that.
The PS1 saw its first price drop 8 months after launch in the USA.
The PS2 saw its first price drop 18 months after launch in the USA
The PS3 saw its first price drop 8 months after launch in the USA
The PS4 has now been on the market for 17 months.
The PS4 will most certainly see an official price drop in FY2015-16.
Agreed. A price drop to $349 may not be enough to get a big boost in sales as the XB1 has been $349 for months now. Going all the way down to $299 will also allow Sony to have a reasonably priced Morpheus bundle next year. With the PS4 built with quick price reductions in mind, Sony should only have to make minor losses if they slash the price to $299.
I can't blame Sony for being cautious this time, but I'm sure it will be soon. There's probably enough software in circulation now for a cut to be beneficial. PS4 is going to have an amazing Christmas.
Sony issued the first price cut to the PS2 to effectively kill the competition in Xbox. Now that Sony know they will stay in first place for quite some time, they don't need a price cut yet.
I can't see Sony dropping the price of PS4 by $100 this year.
Sales are still huge at the current price.
I can see them packing in 2 games though.
It doesn't work like that, Sony couldn't care less of the original Xbox which was much less a threat than what the XB1 is now, they cut the PS2 price because it was time to speed up hardware adoption rate so that they could make more money by selling a lot more games.
This time is the same, it's not about XB1, it's about achieving growth for themselves, driving sales of games and lucrative subscriptions and services like Playstation Plus, Music/Spotify, PSNow and so on. That's where they can make the biggest profits, not the hardware.
They cut they price days before MS was going to announce a price drop for the Xbox. They didn't do it to speed up hardware adoption rates, it was a reaction to make sure the Xbox could not get any steam from a price drop.
This is a short term way to look at things. Just remember a price drop can potentially boost sales significantly, especially during the holiday season. And as the install base increases, there will be more users on PS Plus, which Sony will make quite a good amount of profit from. Also, if Sony doesn't slash the price of the PS4, I have a feeling it will not be able to keep up with the XB1 this holiday season, especially if Microsoft goes for insane bundles again.But why take minor loses when you can make nearly 100$ in profits per console sold ?
With Sony selling something like 5-6 milions of consoles in Holiday season that's half a bilion of dollars of difference.
Well, MS did it first last year. And they succeeded beat PS4 only in US during holidays.
But why take minor loses when you can make nearly 100$ in profits per console sold ?
With Sony selling something like 5-6 milions of consoles in Holiday season that's half a bilion of dollars of difference.
They cut they price days before MS was going to announce a price drop for the Xbox. They didn't do it to speed up hardware adoption rates, it was a reaction to make sure the Xbox could not get any steam from a price drop.
Well, MS did it first last year. And they succeeded beat PS4 only in US during holidays.
What do you mean with the bold? I stated something they did back in 2002. How am I thinking too much about them?They both planned to do the same thing. Back then price cut announcents at E3 were commonplace, they both planned to make E3 price cuts. PS2 didn't get a price get since launch in the US.
In Europe instead sales were slower due to a much higher entry price and they cut the price earlier in September 2001 for example.
You think way too much about Xbox and Sony doing things to respond to them or viceversa.
Sony is way more concerned about their own profits, growth and sales targets, they need to sell tons of games and subscriptions, this year there will be a PS4 price cut, regardeless of what Xbox does.
Sony issued the first price cut to the PS2 to effectively kill the competition in Xbox. Now that Sony know they will stay in first place for quite some time, they don't need a price cut yet.
Makes total sense for Sony to announce a price cut in late august being effective since 1st September with the MGSV launch.
I don't know if the announcement will be made at Gamescom this time because this year the show happens quite early, 5th August which is still full summer and not the right time to announce a price drop.
But the PS4 still sold a hell of a lot during those Holidays, all without resorting to mad bundling and steep price cuts.
But the PS4 still sold a hell of a lot during those Holidays, all without resorting to mad bundling and steep price cuts.