Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

It is pretty clear here.

Sony supports the troops.

Microsoft does not.

I guess I'm going more into detail than most in this thread have since I'm familiar with how companies twist things for good PR via making vague statements (due to classes I took when I was in college as well as just my overall interest in that area).

This screams:

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Good fucking god, the cognitive dissonance is appalling. They couldn't be ANYMORE clearer that you can play the PS4 COMPLETELY offline with NO issues and yet you're still clinging to the dumbshit idea that they'll force you to use an internet connection?

Are some of you fucking stupid?
 
I'm literally laughing my ass off at some of the comments in here. Especially at the posters who are saying what he said isn't clear. They are links in the thread with Sony saying you can enjoy the PS4 "OLD SCHOOL" style but I guess that's not clear enough.


lol wow.
 
Yes, but again what does he mean by "old school"?

I guess I'm going more into detail than most in this thread have since I'm familiar with how companies twist things for good PR via making vague statements (due to classes I took when I was in college as well as just my overall interest in that area).

These statements are just pretty vague to me. Unlike fanboys (on either side) though, I'm not going to say that me feeling that way 100% confirms that Sony will give in.

As I've said many times before I'm looking forward to hearing more details.

It's been stated by more than one person at Sony. You continue to act like this isn't the case. And then try to puff up your chest as if you're impartial unlike anyone else on here. Really incredible.
 
Yes, but again what does he mean by "old school"? Couldn't old school simply mean "without internet"? The PS4 will do more than just play games.

I guess I'm going more into detail than most in this thread have since I'm familiar with how companies twist things for good PR via making vague statements (due to classes I took when I was in college as well as just my overall interest in that area).

These statements are just pretty vague to me. Unlike fanboys (on either side) though, I'm not going to say that me feeling that way 100% confirms that Sony will give in.

As I've said many times before I'm looking forward to hearing more details.

That's fine if you are taking the "I'll believe it when I see it." attitude. But a lot of people here are acting as if Sony is intentionally using dodgy vernacular in the same way Microsoft has.
 
Yes, but again what does he mean by "old school"? Couldn't old school simply mean "without internet"? The PS4 will do more than just play games.

I guess I'm going more into detail than most in this thread have since I'm familiar with how companies twist things for good PR via making vague statements (due to classes I took when I was in college as well as just my overall interest in that area).

These statements are just pretty vague to me. Unlike fanboys (on either side) though, I'm not going to say that me feeling that way 100% confirms that Sony will give in.

As I've said many times before I'm looking forward to hearing more details.
We have an expert folks!
 
Look, I'm joking because frankly I don't care. My main point is that Sony fans should brace for impact. If it's totally offline play, then hooray! But to think that Sony is your bro and won't do you wrong is setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
Good fucking god, the cognitive dissonance is appalling. They couldn't be ANYMORE clearer that you can play the PS4 COMPLETELY offline with NO issues and yet you're still clinging to the dumbshit idea that they'll force you to use an internet connection?

Are some of you fucking stupid?

So let me get you straight. It's like my Xbox One then? I can play that COMPLETELY offline too with NO issues. As long as I don't forget to catch on a connection every 24h or so :P
 
From the Xbox One faq.



http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

What Michael Denny said in the PSM interview.



http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/03/20/michael-denny/

Still think both statements are pretty much the same?

True good clarifying that up but I am sure sony wants people to be online as much as the microsoft guys...they invested a shit load into those cool features like gaikai and streaming...I am guessing thats why cerny said the experience would be more richer if connected.
 
Good fucking god, the cognitive dissonance is appalling. They couldn't be ANYMORE clearer that you can play the PS4 COMPLETELY offline with NO issues and yet you're still clinging to the dumbshit idea that they'll force you to use an internet connection?

Are some of you fucking stupid?

Precisely, this means nothing for potential DRM, but the console doesn't require an Internet connection. Like Christ . . .
 
Clear as fucking day but still, xbox fans
Slightly veering off course, but I actually do wonder how many are really Xbox fans, and how many just like to be doomsayers. Human civilization has always had those and there probably is some aspect in our brains that can take morbid fascination in things going completely and utterly wrong. And hell, this is a lot more realistic than the world ending at the end of this year or whatever.
 
So let me get you straight. It's like my Xbox One then? I can play that COMPLETELY offline too with NO issues. As long as I don't forget to catch on a connection every 24h or so :P

No, you will get a message telling you to connect after 24 hours. You can't keep playing even if you cut the cord. What part of this is hard to understand for you?
 
In a way we're in the same situation than we were with Durango back then. We still don't know what kind of relationship PS4 will have with online. Will there be a price for online gaming? What will the level of DRM be? Do I have to be connected to internet once in a while to be able to access my software? We do not know these things. At least with MS (through vague statements and PR disasters but still) we know what their approach is. Not people may agree with it or they may not but in a way we know more of MS's plans than we know of Sony's.
My dear god how blind and lalalalalala-I'mnotlistening do you have to be. PS4 DOESN'T require an internet connection at all _EVER_ to play games. There are online features that SHOCKINGLY require, yes, an Internet connection, but they've said it as clearly as they possibly can that you can keep your PS4 offline FOREVER and still play games.

And you'd think Sony's stance on Online gaming would be clear by now, what's with FOUR of their FOUR online enabled platforms being FREE to play online (the latest one which was launched only a little over a year ago). I'm sure PS4 will be too, though there will obviously be PS+ exclusive features like cloud savings & stuff like PS3 & Vita have. PS+ has been wildly successful for Sony without the need to gimp their whole platform like MS does, there's nothing indicating it'll be any different on PS4 (though, not saying it can't be, I just don't see it as probable)

You don't think there's more room to be more specific. Oh c'mon please use your imagination. How about saying: "Yeah it's just as good as it's on PS3 or even better (on consumer's perspective)" Or you know actually detailing their online plans? What Cerny said here doesn't tell us anything we haven't heard in one form or another.
Maybe what Cerny says here isn't 100% clear, but they've been clear before, like I said, but you keep ignoring the fact that THEY'VE SAID IT A MILLION TIMES THAT NO INTERNET CONNECTION IS NEEDED TO PLAY PS4 GAMES. They don't have to say "it's the same as on PS3" when they can and HAVE said "PS4 doesn't require internet connection at all."
 
True good clarifying that up but I am sure sony wants people to be online as much as the microsoft guys...they invested a shit load into those cool features like gaikai and streaming...I am guessing thats why cerny said the experience would be more richer if connected.

Of course they want folks to be online and pay money on their content, doesn't mean their forcing them.
 
Looking at the various Sony responses to questions, I don't see any wiggle room. They say again and again you can be totally offline and you don't need an Internet connection to use the PS4. How is that the same as MS? False equivalency FTW?

They even said "old school style" to make it explicit that they were referring to (singleplayer) games being entirely playable offline.

One can infer that depending on the publisher, some games may require a constant server connection. But that is not built into the system.
 
They even said "old school style" to make it explicit that they were referring to (singleplayer) games being entirely playable offline.

One can infer that depending on the publisher, some games may require a constant server connection. But that is not built into the system.

But, what do they mean by "old school" and how does that make you feel?

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The one thing that absolutely stops me from purchasing a next-gen console is going to be the requirement for an internet connection. It's just far too much of a hassle to deal with, as I'm going to be dragging this thing around to places when it drops.

If PS4 has at most a "One Time" requirement, I'll pony up for the console as soon as possible.
 
It's been stated by more than one person at Sony. You continue to act like this isn't the case.

So the number of people who say the (in my opinion) vague statements should somehow make me think that they are less vague?

How does that make sense?

And then try to puff up your chest as if you're impartial unlike anyone else on here. Really incredible.

FYI, I took a similar stance to MS' statements -- in particular what Don said during the GameTrailers post conference show talking about how "online wouldn't be required but will be needed to get the full experience of the Xbox" when he was seemingly more so referring to things such as blu-ray movie watching.

But hey -- since I don't see things the same way that you do and have a difference of opinion I'm not impartial. Oh well.
 
By the way don't you guys hate how they're twisting a knife in the wound with going on all how "old school" you can enjoy your console. I'm damn right not going to enjoy it "old school". My numerous PS3 games are left behind to die. Nothing old school about that.
 
They've seen the backlash and yet they remain silent. Tells me all I need to know. Now it's just a question of how similarly they're going to implement their DRM policies. As a Steam user, DRM doesn't bother me in the least. Just tell me what I'm dealing with before I make a buying decision is all I ask.

It tells you nothing. Why would Sony need to say anything before E3? If they tip their hand now, then the issue loses impact when E3 comes around. If they wait, then at E3, when all the press gaming and mainstream are at their most attentive, they can make their position known and force Microsoft to answer the tough questions during their own pressers/interview sessions in response.
 
Mark Cerny: "PlayStation 4 won't require to be always connected"

Only "sometimes"

It is confusing. What he and other Sony people are saying is it works just like PS3 is how I understand it.

The "sometimes" means:

If you want to play multiplayer
If you want to use Netflix
If you want to use any other features that require the internet

What it doesn't have is a requirement to have a connection at a set period like the 24HR check of Xbox One. We just don't yet know if that then means there isn't any restrictions.

Just have to wait for E3.
 
I am still crossing my fingers that MS won't force anyone either, I really want both of these guys to do good.

Same here.
Kinda sad that people spend more energy on trying to spin words of interviews, instead of investing their energy on the twitter campaign that's focused on both companies.
 
I think by "Old School" they are actually referring to the 2003 movie directed by Todd Phillips starring Luke Wilson, Will Ferrell and Vince Vaughn. The movie is about a fraternity and what do frat houses require? A stable internet connection. Sorry Sony fans.
 
Yes, but again what does he mean by "old school"? Couldn't old school simply mean "without internet"? The PS4 will do more than just play games.

I guess I'm going more into detail than most in this thread have since I'm familiar with how companies twist things for good PR by making vague statements (due to previous examples I know of, classes I took when I was in college, as well as just my overall interest in that area).

These statements are just pretty vague to me. Unlike fanboys (on either side) though, I'm not going to say that me feeling that way 100% confirms that Sony will give in.

As I've said many times before I'm looking forward to hearing more details.

This reads like Clinton's "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is".
 
Is there anymore information hidden in this thread? Because the op is pretty much not clearing up anything, could still be the same as the MS system.
 
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