Physiognomonics
Member
Won't make much difference I am afraid as PC I/O architecture has too many others bottlenecks. Direct Storage is a PR marketing stunt (which perfectly worked, for now).
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Mister Wolf
Member
Direct Storage would have shaved some seconds. Its faster than the outdated Win 32 API as already demonstrated with Forspoken. With actual benchmarked numbers demonstrated. Currently around 70% faster while still using CPU decompression.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
PC looks like the Next Gen Rockstar remaster version next to PS5.
Good port Nixxes.
Good port Nixxes.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Also a gen 4 M2 would helped too, which is 2 times faster than Alex's gen 3 m2.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I'll hand it to Sony. Their PC ports are pretty good. Not perfect, but the games seem to reach for higher end settings, frames etc....
Before they started doing PC ports, I was thinking they might purposely gimp all their PC games so the PS versions are seem as equal. Not true. Seems the studios are allowed to stretch the quality beyond PS5.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sure, I would also like all reflections to look perfectly accurate. But we're not there yet, even if you have a 3090 (seems like it's pretty much impossible to get a smooth 60fps in this game with everything maxed out). And I'm saying that it doesn't matter that much. But if you play games to stare deeply into reflections on the sides of buildings, sure, I can understand that you would rather have that version running on a $3000 PC.
captainnapalm
Member
Good port but RT is a real FPS killer. The game is very CPU bound also. I also think DLSS has built-in sharpening that can't be turned off or toned down.
Played the first mission though and it was a lot of fun. Looks like the game itself is going to be great.
Played the first mission though and it was a lot of fun. Looks like the game itself is going to be great.
TheRedRiders
Member
Lol no
Microsoft has a detailed lecture on what DirectStorage can provide. To put it simply, it offloads all the data decompression and streaming from the CPU to the GPU, resulting in less overhead for the CPU (more performance). The GPU doesn't have issues doing this as well as most PC GPU's have a shit ton of compute capabilities.
This results in tangible difference in load times and overall asset streaming, Forspoken for example loads in under 2 seconds on the PC version and the PS5 will likely be in the same ballpark if not faster.
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winjer
Gold Member
That is just nonsense.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Mister Wolf
Member
Because some poster made an ignorant statement that the PC cannot improve its load times
Stuart360
Member
And even if it couldnt, so what?. Its 4.5 secs not 45 secs.
Talk about scrapping for a 'win' somewhere lol.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Because before SSDs on consoles, loading times didn't matter. Now it does. Right now it's RT that doesn't matter.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You should see XSX/PS5 faceoffs.
Pedro Motta
Member
in 4K?
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Part of Sony's marketing plan for the PS5 release of Spider-Man 2
Mister Wolf
Member
You ever try using Sharpen+ in Nvidia Freestyle? Only works when using DLSS.
Stuart360
Member
With full RT i presume?
As long as i can get 1080p/1440p/60 with max settings minus RT, that will do me. (3700x/32gb ram/GTX 1080ti)
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
3.5GB/s NVMe is mid-range on PC. He should have included a high-end NVMe for reference since he mentioned the loads are unlikely to be CPU-limited.
OverHeat
« generous god »
mansoor1980
Gold Member
have they improved these boat guys or not?
sncvsrtoip
Member
yeah but it doesnt work this way, you would decrease tiems on pc maybe by 0.5s
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Is it though? Are you standing 1 foot from your 65" tv or watching games via binoculars? I'd rather see it less zoomed in for real world.
That said, max PC does look better even from normal distance, just not sure I'd call it "drastic"
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Aside from RT quite huge difference, there is no real other differences.
And you do need good pc to push RT, so that's good they are utilizing it for sure !
But I always wonder this.... why are there so many options? Why we need traffic at very low, low, medium, hard, very high.... if all settings look the same or very close and do not affect performance more than 1%.
There are few settings like that it seems (as in many many pc games) that serve no other purpose than a way to lower your image quality without real benefits to performance.
Why have these options at all?! It's only a time waster for the person testing it.
MORE BETTER IMPACTFUL SETTINGS. NOT JUST MORES SETTINGS !
And you do need good pc to push RT, so that's good they are utilizing it for sure !
But I always wonder this.... why are there so many options? Why we need traffic at very low, low, medium, hard, very high.... if all settings look the same or very close and do not affect performance more than 1%.
There are few settings like that it seems (as in many many pc games) that serve no other purpose than a way to lower your image quality without real benefits to performance.
Why have these options at all?! It's only a time waster for the person testing it.
MORE BETTER IMPACTFUL SETTINGS. NOT JUST MORES SETTINGS !
JackSparr0w
Banned
Not a game that PC gamers want though. If Sony wants to break into the PC market they need to release games that PC gamers enjoy.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It's a proper port. Nothing more/less really.
This is what every port should be or more.
I know people are gushing about RT but this is how most people will look a it. While on the side of a building.
And in this setting, it's not so bad on ps5
MikeM
Member
And what is that exactly?
To be objective, we need to see what the sales numbers are. PC only gamers wanted Sony products- they got it.
MikeM
Member
What ports should be is correct. We all know how they can be released tho.It's a proper port. Nothing more/less really.
This is what every port should be or more.
I know people are gushing about RT but this is how most people will look a it. While on the side of a building.
And in this setting, it's not so bad on ps5
This sets a bar for their future releases. Widescreen support, DLSS and FSR are big.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Looks to be on par good port as Death Stranding.
Horizon and FF 7 were more lackluster. horizon got patched good.
Spider-Man on PS1 vibes.have they improved these boat guys or not?
Stuart360
Member
He means Bloodborne i'm sure, which PC gamers would lap up to be fair.
Still all the Sony games so far have done decent on PC. I think Days Gone is the only one that hasnt done great.
MikeM
Member
FF7 was a square port tho. I don’t think Sony had anything to do with it.
JackSparr0w
Banned
You can have a look here https://steamdb.info/graph/?sort=peak just ignore the glitches with only a few players. You can also check on twitch.tv to see what most PC gamers are playing.
A tiny minority asked for Sony games and the only ones that I can see selling decently are Bloodborne and Demon Souls remake. Destiny 2 is also fairly popular among PC gamers but that's a recent Sony purchase.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh ambassador of PC gaming, what shall thou bestow upon thy peasantry with thee carnal knowledge?
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MightySquirrel
Banned
Seems like a great port and a huge upgrade over ps5 version. Much improved RT, LOD, AF, etc etc. Tbf all Sony ports so far been pretty good. Minus HZD at launch, but got pathed soon after.
Why don't they ever release a 4k version when they do these.
I know they do them, but when you expect it to be needed we get a pixelated 1080p version of them zooming 200% into a compressed blurr
Makes no sense
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octiny
Banned
Why don't they ever release a 4k version when they do these.
I know they do them, but when you expect it to be needed we get a pixelated 1080p version of them zooming 200% into a compressed blurr
Makes no sense
I believe DF updates the available quality to 4K after the comparisons been out for awhile. Just so the Patron contributers feel special.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Seems like a great port and a huge upgrade over ps5 version. Much improved RT, LOD, AF, etc etc. Tbf all Sony ports so far been pretty good. Minus HZD at launch, but got pathed soon after.
And I don't mean just Playstation titles, just in general sometimes they don't upload the 4k version.
Maybe it's exclusive to their patreon
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RadioactiveLobster
Member
Because YT can some times take forever to process the 4K versionWhy don't they ever release a 4k version when they do these.
I know they do them, but when you expect it to be needed we get a pixelated 1080p version of them zooming 200% into a compressed blurr
Makes no sense
Their own site has the 4K version right away (as it doesn't use YouTube) but you have to be a Patreon for that.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
There’s a contagiousness to the city in Spider-Man, most people have played the PlayStation 4 version.
Lysandros
Member
Why Sony engineered an entire I/O complex with a powerfull decompressor, two co-processors, a coherency engine and SRAM if the exact same result can be obtained by simply offloading all these processes to the GPU via API without any dedicated hardware?... Don't you think it's too good to be true?
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James Sawyer Ford
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Lysandros
Member
Of course his love for Sony first party games is very well known...You could tell that Bugaga was having a boner while covering this... so much for "Spider-man whatever"