Mr Moose
Gold Member
You go there sometimes after missions and shit from what I remember, been a while since I played this game though.
Edit: Unless I am thinking about the lab.
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Edit: Unless I am thinking about the lab.
01011001
Banned
how about stfu unless you have something to demonstrate what I said was wrong
Krappadizzle
Member
Yeah, no one on the biggest platform in the world wants to play one of the most popular fictional characters in the world. No one.
playsaves3
Banned
Alex himself says the rt setting not the fidelity mode is the high setting (performance rt seems to be between medium and high) so my point still stands
playsaves3
Banned
Windows encompass the “rough” materials im talking about since they have dirt on them. I’m talking about glass or mirrors where there isn’t a large difference
ResetEraVetVIP
Member
Nah…it really isn’t…
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Have to admit, I was a bit butthurt when Sony bought them because it meant they couldn't do ports for anyone else. They've been good for so long.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Nope, its pretty drastic. My 55 inch TV is 2 metres away from where I sit usually.
Doctor Hades
Member
This is a great port and runs great even on my ancient PC albeit with an RTX 3080 graphics card. The only things missing are a benchmark mode and an option to limit the game's framerate (I have had to use RTSS for that for now). There is an option to target certain framerates such as 60 fps but this does not limit the framerate to 60 fps on my G-SYNC monitor and instead runs uncapped unless I use RTSS.
Also, HBAO+ is embarrassingly broken in this game despite NVIDIA having released a game-ready driver for this game (v516.94) so would think they would have noticed this during testing? Apparently not because SSAO looks miles (morales!) better as HBAO+ doesn't look it is working at all on my PC as cars lack ambient shadowing underneath that shows when you use SSAO.
Also, HBAO+ is embarrassingly broken in this game despite NVIDIA having released a game-ready driver for this game (v516.94) so would think they would have noticed this during testing? Apparently not because SSAO looks miles (morales!) better as HBAO+ doesn't look it is working at all on my PC as cars lack ambient shadowing underneath that shows when you use SSAO.
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
PC blows console out of the water was that ever in doubt? Your GPU alone is the cost of a PS5.imagine if a game exhibited this kind of difference between ps5 and series x
probably chaos would ensue between them
yamaci17
Member
what can I say, i live in a poor country yet got the 3070 when it was released and it did not make a dent on my savings. it also helped that i sold my old GPU though
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daninthemix
Member
I'm enjoying this at 4K DLSS Quality 120fps. I had to turn off ray tracing but the game is running like butter. Pin-sharp too.
yamaci17
Member
i'm mostly getting around 55-60 and sometimes north of it at highest rt settings LOL! still cpu bottlenecked a bit my 2700x endured
had some dips to 50s at certain times but mostly hovers above 60. with VRR they didn't felt bad and it was very playable.this footage did not need dlss quality, i couldn't estimate it would perform this good
i will do a native 1440p capture tooi will have to evaluate, i can get a locked 60 with high rt geometry+very high resolution... but geometry seems to be adding a lot !
example:
(native 1440p)
high geometry
very high geometry
no rt
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It would depend on the system, that's why. For example if you have an 8 core CPU and plenty of RAM it may make no difference to performance to reduce traffic but if you're running on a poor single core CPU and lower memory that setting might make a huge difference for you.
Skifi28
Member
Pentium 4 mustard race, reporting in. I can get a playable 7fps, but once I activate RT the performance is rather poor. I'll try upgrading to a core 2 duo tomorrow and will report back.
yamaci17
Member
he probably meant poor single thread performance
Skifi28
Member
I know, but there are not enough chances for Pentium 4 jokes these days. One can't afford to miss any.
winjer
Gold Member
I updated to the Pentium 5 at 7Ghz. Got double the performance.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
New monitor arrives tomorrow and I think I'll pick this up to support Sony and nixxes and to perve on the real deal raytracing. It looks glorious.
Never thought a sony game would be the thing to demonstrate the sheer technical gap between PCs and consoles in 2022.
Never thought a sony game would be the thing to demonstrate the sheer technical gap between PCs and consoles in 2022.
Valedix
Member
What monitor did you get?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Thought sod it and went for the Samsung odyssey g7 for now. If the neo g8 geta fixed via firmware or I can get an alienware/Samsung ultra wide later I'll get it.
Just wanted a nice 32 inch 1440p monitor. If I have any issues with flickering etc it's going back lol
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Generational difference
Krappadizzle
Member
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
PC can't match the PS5's I/O.
Cerny Secret Sauce Confirmed.
Direct storage needs to hurry up.
Krappadizzle
Member
Objectively true, which is the best kind of true. As a mostly PC gamer. it'd be nice to have direct storage, but for how it's been implemented thus far in PS5, the I/O has really only given tangible benefits that impact gameplay in load times, which if the difference is usually 3-5 seconds...I don't really feel like I'm missing out on a feature, exclusive to console or not, that has any real tangible impact on how I play games. It's like vanilla with sprinkles on it...It's nice, but sprinkles wouldn't be the reason I decide to get an ice cream..... But it is sprinkles though...which is nice.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
The real idea of where things stand will be if PS5 only games come to PC as thus far we have PS4 games with added PS5 I/O sugar sprinkled on top instead of being in the flower.
Might I go off a bit and add... If Spider-Man 2 is baked with only PS5's ingredients that it should look significantly better.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Keep making us laugh. Generational difference is something like this:
Meanwhile pc is using decades old tech and still is only 2,7+ seconds more.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Then why bring console generations in the discussion? It's a PC Spider-man thread. Hypocrite.Thought I was in a Spider-Man tech discussion thread
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
What's the thread about?
Krappadizzle
Member
I'm genuinely surprised how long it's taken this far into a new gen to have exclusive next-gen titles. Games have and will almost always certainly look best on PC on whatever the most current hardware is available, but it's pretty much always been since the PS2 era that "next-gen" consoles set the baseline standard, and we've mostly just been relegated to suped up versions of last-gen tech these last few years. I look forward to next-gen exclusives that will only play on XsX/PS5-level hardware. My GPU keeps getting stronger, and just gives me overhead for games that have come out in years prior. My 1080ti could have easily last me another 2 years at med/high settings on just about every game it feels like. Granted, DLSS and RTX was enough to finally get me to switch, but if I couldn't get my hands on next-gen hardware, my 2017 GPU would have still been pushing along nicely.
I really hope Spider-Man 2 doesn't have a PS4 release. Even though I have no plans for a PS5 purchase until the inevitable revision, I still want to see new tech being used.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Right now is about your crusade on sucking some PC tech inside the PS5.
playsaves3
Banned
I might have to wait for a pro as well since Sony isn’t giving me the option to buy the console in black
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Droxcy
Member
Also stores breaking street date we really don't see that very often anymore hasn't happened since MW3 we all had that game like 2 weeks early playing online with devs and just 500-1k at least those were fun times.
Played some of it tonight game runs solid 4k with DLSS and everything maxed fun zipping around NYC. I still want a realistic driving simulator/truck sim in a map this size that'd be sick.
link to explanation? the one I saw said it was a sudden increase of drawcalls from the way they do culling causing stutters and not from asset decompression.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Yeah in the old days you had a lot of competition between stores I think nowadays only GameStop is left.
sachos
Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Yup. Mom and pop shops were the best.
I never played games that early before release date as I'd never ask game stores that early, but did my share of playing games a few days before launch. If I was in the area, I'd stop by and ask they had it. Yup, he'd grab me a copy from a wholesale case from the back room.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Good catch, and I'm a bit confused about what Alex is trying to say here; he made it seem as though having a higher throughput SSD would solve the issue. If Spiderman Remastered, which is streaming anywhere from 25mb-200mb from storage is heavy on PC CPUs, what would CPU performance for ~2gb+ streaming requirements look like?
RadioactiveLobster
Member
If I understand it correctly, he's saying having a faster SSD won't help because the decompression is CPU limited. It's already on a drive capable of 3.5GB/s in their test but it is only topping out at 500mb at the highest because the decompression is happening on the CPU and the CPU is already busy doing other things in the game.
The PS5 has dedicated decompression hardware so it doesn't put an extra load on the CPU.
In theory, DirectStorage on Windows would help by offloading some of that decompression/streaming to the GPU which is a lot better at running things in parallel than the CPU.
That said, load times for me are 3-4 seconds while the PS5 is 1-2 seconds so I'm not complaining all that much at the moment.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Damn, clean as fuck.
It might have already been addressed but ray tracing in areas looks pixelated. Running on a 3090 so not sure what's happening, yours looks super clean.
He's sayng data streaming is probably not a major issue with those low datarates and the real problem is BVH work as he says at the end "very cpu limited with rt on". Then over in the text article he also said nixxes are looking to improve the BVH performance in an upcoming patch.
Look at this video 1440p no RT is around 35% cpu use, then look at the RT on segment and it jumps to around ~50% average and hits the 60's at one moment when he's is stationary on a building looking at reflections.
yamaci17
Member
are u running at 1440p or 4k?
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Yeah yeah. If you ignore the fact, that shaders are precompiled on console and has to be compiled on PC. And if I am not wrong game does not use the direct storage api.
There would still be difference with PS5 advantage, but ignoring major point, why PC loading times is probably always going to be slower, isn't best way how to handle the conversation.