Marvel announces X-Men "Apocalypse Wars" event for 2016
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Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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When Marvel has an Avengers/line wide Event: Announced at NYCC or SDCC or C2E2, usually teased ahead of time. Announced in conjunction with a bunch of promotional images and marketing. Newsarama or CBR usually have interviews up right away with Axel Alonzo or Tom Breevort explaining how revolutionary this event will be.
When Marvel has an X-Men Event: Announced at a comic con in Brazil by a guy named Ricky Purdin (?) with no prior warning. Marvel itself has released no info on it and the only reason we know about it is because Newsarama posted a blurry twitter picture. The announcement happened 6 hours ago and Marvel has yet officially confirmed it.
And we are using this as evidence that the X-Men aren't being marginalized?
When Marvel has an X-Men Event: Announced at a comic con in Brazil by a guy named Ricky Purdin (?) with no prior warning. Marvel itself has released no info on it and the only reason we know about it is because Newsarama posted a blurry twitter picture. The announcement happened 6 hours ago and Marvel has yet officially confirmed it.
And we are using this as evidence that the X-Men aren't being marginalized?
Well when X-men can push Avenger units they can have a seat at the adult table. They could be carol danvers, so not like it is doom and gloom.
Manmademan
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if you ever have the opportunity to do so I'll build it myself.
Parallax
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Shit, we still dont know what made thor unworthy.
Original Sin was boring, had bad tie-ins, and did really stupid stuff with characters like Dum Dum and Fury that basically ruined them in addition to some other issues.yeaaah...but...
hundred dollars no one references this bit of embarassment for the next couple of decades.
absolutely not. The worst thing OS did was that Thor business. otherwise it was decently written and logically consistent, which is ABSOLUTELY NOT something you can say about AXIS.
As for Apocalypse- decently written? This was Evan Sabanur, not the OG. dude decides to "hulk out" and waltz around looking like the original..no one bats an eye. Declares war on all humans, decides to exterminate them. All of the Xmen decide "this is a great idea!" This is good writing?
I don't see how you can look at some of the things he said and think Remender wrote them to taken 100% serious. It was a serious moment, but he was hamming the character up.
The reveal of who the true villain was behind Original Sin should tell you that it was created on a liquor fueled dare.
Manmademan
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You skipped secret wars, didn't you? From June:
1 Secret Wars 3 $3.99 Marvel 218,136
2 Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows 1 $3.99 Marvel 203,565
3 Star Wars 6 $3.99 Marvel 152,652
4 Justice League of America 1 $5.99 DC 150,845
5 Batman 41 $3.99 DC 142,155
6 Thors 1 $3.99 Marvel 114,854
7 Darth Vader 6 $3.99 Marvel 107,739
8 X-Men 92 1 $4.99 Marvel 97,617
9 Justice League 41* $4.99 DC 88,713
10 Groot 1 $3.99 Marvel 83,506
11 Princess Leia 4 $3.99 Marvel 80,170
12 Age of Ultron Vs Marvel Zombies 1 $3.99 Marvel 78,646
13 Old Man Logan 2 $3.99 Marvel 78,426
14 Years of Future Past 1 $4.99 Marvel 71,450
15 Deadpools Secret Secret Wars 2 $3.99 Marvel 70,25
Xmen 92 did VERY well, considering it was $4.99 *AND* came out 2 or 3 weeks after the digital version. Xmen still has some gas in the tank.
Parallax
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Honestly, axis should be a point of reference as to not to start an event right after starting up a new character run. Fuckboy cap falcon almost made me sour him in general
You know event bumps don't count. Wasn't the Spiderman X book the top seller before the reboot?
Manmademan
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holy shit I forgot all about that- you weren't the only one. I was EXTREMELY reluctant to pick up Falcon Cap because of that. the character was flat out awful.
hey, when you can compare them to other event bumps they count. No idea about the spiderman X book, I've had a lot of whiskey today.
OH THAT. no idea what the sales for that were but it was LEGITIMATELY a great book. Come on, it gave us "I don't want to cure cancer, i WANT to turn people into dinosaurs"
that gif will live on in comic infamy forever
Spiderman elevates everything he touches, he could make KFC edible.
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Bbbbbbaaaaahhhhh I thought Marvel was burying the X-men after their Reboot?
Apoc is alive and well
Is his last name Gelion?
Marvel so coldblooded, they see people devour anything Peter + MJ related and then:
Manmademan
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Pretty sure the apocalypse design predates that anime by oh, about a decade
Marvel has beaten the Fox films at the box office handily many times. This is indicative of a thawing of relations between the companies, probably due to the horse trading deals being made regarding the FF rights and the greenlight for the X-Men TV shows Fox wants to do. It's a positive thing.
Manmademan
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Or another reminder that the X-Men's prime was back in the 90's
everybody's prime was back in the 90s
Hahahaha like Thanos would lower himself to do that, he would send a minion at most.
Parallax
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could spider man elevate carol to good tier?
MHWilliams
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Guess I have to wait for next year's crossover for Cyclops' glorious return.
I remember when the game changed
The hype for this title was unbearable back then. All that salt from Disassembled crashed right into the Peter and Logan hype.
Manmademan
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you'll get teen cyclops for the next decade and like it
You joke, but that would be awesome.
Well people want them to get together so technically...
Parallax
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i will like it
Maybe. They're technically teamed up in Secret Wars and Sinister Carol is the most I've ever enjoyed her.
Parallax
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weve only seen like fractions of sinister carol
Point still stands
HA! Good one.
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"Genesis Evan"
Manmademan
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the odds are stacked against it. The last few Xmen centric events were what....AVX, Battle of the Atom, and AXIS?
uh...
his birth name is Evan Sabah Nur, referencing En Sabah Nur, the Original apocalypse. No one calls him "Genesis Evan."
torre_avenue
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Well, there was something between them, we just don't know if its animosity or not. (Bleeding Cool says otherwise, but its Bleeding Cool.)
- First, the comments by the head of Gazillion of being punished by Marvel for tying into F4ntastic.
- Comments by Mondo that "[Marvel] just said no to anything Fantastic Four in general."
- Chris Claremont saying that Marvel straight up banned new mutants, though Brian Michael Bendis denied it. (I tend to believe BMB here.)
- Some more proof Marvel were blocking the use of X-Men characters in non-comics media
- The removal of the X-Men and the Four from their character poster
- Marvel cancelling the comic series which had been a staple of the company for decades. Again, tenuous due to the fact the book wasn't a high seller according Fox CEO Jim Gianopolous, but the symbolic meaning of it is evident.
- And then there were the Brevoort comments on how there'd be no new X-Men animated series because they weren't making them any money compared to Avengers shows and what not. I can't find the source of it though.
So, there was something between the two. Whether it was animosity or pure financial decision-making, who knows.
EDIT: Forgot about the retconning of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver into...not-mutants? Inhumans? I can't remember the details from that Uncanny Avengers arc.
these been debunked a thousand times before especially the Chris claremont thing, he lied, he created a new mutant character.
GWW had an interesting version in the Last Days of Ms.Marvel.
Manmademan
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he created like six
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Parallax
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Good point
Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight both failed in taking down Poccy and his four chumps.
Well the point he was talking out the side of his mouth.
He would send a competent minion like Skeet or The Fallen One
Manmademan
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oh no doubt. it was completely false from the jump.
torre_avenue
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The Claremont one was discredited, but what about the other ones? I don't remember any denials from any of the other companies mentioned.
Plus, the altering of some of the Secret Wars covers to edit out the X-Men and F4, and replace them with Marvel-owned heroes.
Why would someone go to such lengths to erase these things from (frankly) small things like posters, games, and shirts? It can't all be financial.
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