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Marvel Legacy: Spider-Man goes back to basics (spoilers)
- Thread starter Dalek
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Why do people hate him?
It looks like Slott haters just gonna have to keep hating for now!
He's a decent writer that's done some controversial stories. It gets to a point where people want some fresh blood on the title too.
I think he's decent. Not my favorite Spider-man writer by any stretch of the imagination, but there's been worse.
But, in all honesty, his current Spider-man book is my LEAST favorite of all the other Spider-man books out on the market right now... of which there are plenty.
Body-swap stories are nothing new in comics by any stretch of the imagination, even in Spider-man titles.
Right. The basic idea of a body-swap wasn't new.
Having it be the entire basis for 31 issues of the main series, a year and a half, is certainly different and a risky idea. And Superior as an overall series was incredibly weird and unique and fun.
He's a really bad writer with a fanfiction author's touch.
GodParticle
Member
I'm just glad it's going back to classic numbering and hopefully no more tony stark 2.0 nonsense. Now if only they would get rid of alex ross covers
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
I actually enjoy the fact that someone is having an extended run on a book in an era where writers and artists are constantly shuffled around. It's kind of a throwback at this point.
Vampfox
Banned
He acts like an asshole online.
Companies like Marvel and DC hate character development.
The Peter X Mary Jane relationship is one of the best written in all of fiction.
I know what they're trying to do. And well we all have opinions on how well he's achieving it. You call it thick muscle, I say it looks like someone wrapped the Michelin man up in black pantyhose and he also happens to be fall out drunk again.
it also required the world to be stupid in order for it to work, and only mutants could see something was wrong
Comic fans would get over it, but I actually mean that they don't have to reset his life every few years so that they can get "back to basics" for the character. They shouldn't have to make Peter Parker's life shit just so he can continue being the "plucky underdog", they should be able to come up with something new to fill those thematic shoes.
Peter x MJ marrying was the worst thing to happen to the series adjacent to Sins Past.
Vampfox
Banned
No it was good character development.
Right.
And I get Marvel's desire to split them apart, but they should have simply divorced them. People fall out of love, splitting them would not have required the contrived bullshit.
Slott says a lot of things.
It looks like Slott haters just gonna have to keep hating for now!
Slott seems like a good guy to me with him helping people out online. He used to be annoying on twitter, but he's been fine for like the past year or so imo.
I disagree with you about the marriage, but it's obviously subjective.
We don't know if Peter's life will be "shit". Marvel can come up with something new like the new legacy characters, but it's ultimately up to how the fans take to them.
People are tired of him writing Spider-Man.
Vampfox
Banned
RedHoodedOwl
Member
This! There was no need for this convoluted faustian nonsense.
LordRaptor
Member
Superhero comics are modern mythologies.
Of course they revert to the formulas that made them iconic in the first place.
Sure, exploring changes in circumstance leads to interesting stories, but Spider Mans popularity and relatability is down to being an under dog fuck up, because most folks know what it feels like to be an under dog fuck up, and can root for the under dog fuck up.
What, super rich guy kicking the shit out of junkies for kicks while leaving the lil woman at home to bring up his kid sounds like a way better character to you?
Puh-lease.
LMAO, no.
Read books.
Of course they revert to the formulas that made them iconic in the first place.
Sure, exploring changes in circumstance leads to interesting stories, but Spider Mans popularity and relatability is down to being an under dog fuck up, because most folks know what it feels like to be an under dog fuck up, and can root for the under dog fuck up.
What, super rich guy kicking the shit out of junkies for kicks while leaving the lil woman at home to bring up his kid sounds like a way better character to you?
Puh-lease.
LMAO, no.
Read books.
I thought Mr. Slott's boasts of never leaving Amazing Spider-Man were grounded before, since the title was still doing better than it had in many years.
Since Marvel Now 2.0 though, it's slipped hard, going back to pre-Big Time sales, and it continues to drop.
Either Marvel really liked him, or nobody wants to really take it up.
Since Marvel Now 2.0 though, it's slipped hard, going back to pre-Big Time sales, and it continues to drop.
Either Marvel really liked him, or nobody wants to really take it up.
Don't mind him. Look at his post history in Spider-Man threads.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Should bring back Uncle Ben, have Peter go flat broke, forgetting how to be Spiderman, using his powers for money then having Uncle Ben get killed again.
LEGACY!
LEGACY!
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
ASM is at #27 for May (#20 in dollars), yes, but it's still one of the top selling books at Marvel, whose sales in general have slipped lately,
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2017/2017-05.html
Almost every comic above Amazing Spider-Man in May was an event or new series launch: Secret Empire #1-3, All New Guardains #1 & #2, Jean Grey #1, Venom #150, cable #1. And all of those series will likely fall below ASM in the coming months once they're not new anymore.
Vermillion
Banned
It looks like Slott haters just gonna have to keep hating for now!
I don't hate him - he was fantastic from his start through Superior. But now, I feel like he's just... repetitive. And if not repetitive, then stale. I'd love someone else to get a shot, but...
Thatonemoor
Member
Anyone else miss Superior Spiderman? I actually really liked Superior Spiderman.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Making all these changes to the status quo in such a short amount of time is like rearranging deck chair on the Titanic, while doing nothing about the fucking iceberg (aka. Dan Slott).
That is definitely the best thing about slott, when almost every other book in Marvel is sort of a collection of 6-12 issue anthologies that reimagine the character slightly every year.
That said... I still prefer married Spider Man. It's criminal what he did to Mary Jane. She is now one of the least important characters in the book
It's not "again."
He's not going back as a photographer. There's going to be a twist to why he's going back.
This is in the OP.
Exactly this. Super disappointing. :/
RoninChaos
Member
What number does JMS' run start on? I tried brand new day and can't stand it.
I agree.
I doubt it; IIRC May lives in Boston no?
It was a poor relationship wherein the entire era felt like it was stuck in neutral.
Vampfox
Banned
No Spider-Man was popular cause he grew with the readers. He was relatable in the sense that he went from High School to college and became an adult and got married. Which are things that a lot of people do in real life.
LordRaptor
Member
I mean, you claim Ben Reilly as a favorite character, so I'm guessing that you weren't following that journey of Peters when he actually made it 40+ years ago.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
He actually engages his critics/haters online. You'll have people act like assholes to him on twitter and other message boards and when he fires back in kind, people get obstinate and say how "Professionals really shouldn't respond to their critics."
Not to say that Slott isn't guilty of putting his foot in his mouth, he certainly has done so in past, but 9 times out of 10 it's readers getting pissed that Slott responds to them in the same tone that they send his way.
Vampfox
Banned
Ben Reilly is one of my favorite characters but I never wanted him to be the real Peter Parker which was what Marvel was trying to do with him in the 90's. And I don't like him more than Peter.
Also I never wanted Ben to be bought back. I felt that his death was really touching and so well done that he should have permanently stayed dead.
What I like about Ben was that even though he was a clone he developed into his own character.
It's sad what Marvel has done to MJ.
She's a strong female character and Marvel does nothing with her nowadays.
Christ, everything about the Clone Saga was fucking terrible. It took ages but the only good thing that came of it IMO is Kaine as Scarlet Spider with the Yost run.
LordRaptor
Member
Weirdly you don't see Spidey fans clamouring for people to remember Peter Parker pregnant wife puncher from that era as 'their' Peter Parker
IrishNinja
Member
^god, i loved the clone saga right up to about timebomb, yeah
shit lemme look that up for you - he literally revived the character for me, even if he started on the weird ezekiel/totem thing. i wanna say this was around 2000 or so? but not sure what issue #
shit lemme look that up for you - he literally revived the character for me, even if he started on the weird ezekiel/totem thing. i wanna say this was around 2000 or so? but not sure what issue #