Marvel reveals The New Avengers (spoilers obviously)

This seems very silly. Given that the film immediately preceding this one has "Thunderbolt" Ross in it makes it even more confusing and silly. It should always have been called The New Avengers, featured Bucky as the lead assembling a team to take down Val, and gotten 2x the BO.
 
jason10mm said:
This seems very silly. Given that the film immediately preceding this one has "Thunderbolt" Ross in it makes it even more confusing and silly. It should always have been called The New Avengers, featured Bucky as the lead assembling a team to take down Val, and gotten 2x the BO.
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I haven't watched the movie but I gather they become the new avengers during it/at the end.

Curious what this means for the old avengers, I don't think they were ever officially retired, but maybe that occurs within this film as well.
 
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I always get a good chuckle out of posters/covers with everybody looking off into the distance with various weird expressions.
 
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It's actually a pretty cool way of doing the marketing for this movie. And in the context of the movie it makes complete sense. It's very forth wall breaking to the point that the people that are upset about it being called the New Avengers are playing into the hands of the script of the movie.

Also the 2nd week box office drop off % is the most important stat behind the opening weekend numbers, so timing this right after the first week is ingenious.

 
HoodWinked said:
It's actually a pretty cool way of doing the marketing for this movie. And in the context of the movie it makes complete sense. It's very forth wall breaking to the point that the people that are upset about it being called the New Avengers are playing into the hands of the script of the movie.

Also the 2nd week box office drop off % is the most important stat behind the opening weekend numbers, so timing this right after the first week is ingenious.

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To me it feels more like their internal tracking realized this movie was going to open lower than CA:BNW so they planned this to boost second week sales by telling the general public this is an Avengers movie. With most of the roster coming from Black Widow (a prequel released during the pandemic) and TV shows, this wasn't the easiest sell post-Endgame.

They should have just titled it New Avengers from the start or did this name swap advertising much later. The Monday after opening to publicly reveal a spoiler is a pretty shitty thing to do. I was planning on seeing the movie soon, but I'm not going to reward bad behavior and be included in their "See? The name change campaign worked! Look at these ticket sales!" I'm fine waiting for Disney+ at this point.
 
TDiddyLive said:
To me it feels more like their internal tracking realized this movie was going to open lower than CA:BNW so they planned this to boost second week sales by telling the general public this is an Avengers movie. With most of the roster coming from Black Widow (a prequel released during the pandemic) and TV shows, this wasn't the easiest sell post-Endgame.

They should have just titled it New Avengers from the start or did this name swap advertising much later. The Monday after opening to publicly reveal a spoiler is a pretty shitty thing to do. I was planning on seeing the movie soon, but I'm not going to reward bad behavior and be included in their "See? The name change campaign worked! Look at these ticket sales!" I'm fine waiting for Disney+ at this point.
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They don't start as the avengers though so it wouldn't work as the movies title, or even publicity as it is a story spoiler.
 
just got back from watching the movie, it gets addressed at the end and seems there will be two teams and they wont be friendly with each other.
 
The new avengers look weak as fuck. I get the thunderbolts movie is pretty good, but these suckers VS a team with thor, hulk , iron man lol. What a downgrade. Where the fuck is the hulk supposed to be actually currently?
 
jason10mm said:
This seems very silly. Given that the film immediately preceding this one has "Thunderbolt" Ross in it makes it even more confusing and silly. It should always have been called The New Avengers, featured Bucky as the lead assembling a team to take down Val, and gotten 2x the BO.
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It is funny. But at the same time I doubt that more than 1% of the audience will even remember what Red Hulk's name is, let alone his nickname.

What is more funny to me is that this film has basically nothing in common with either the Thunderbolts or New Avengers comics. This movie was alright though!
 
TDiddyLive said:
To me it feels more like their internal tracking realized this movie was going to open lower than CA:BNW so they planned this to boost second week sales by telling the general public this is an Avengers movie. With most of the roster coming from Black Widow (a prequel released during the pandemic) and TV shows, this wasn't the easiest sell post-Endgame.

They should have just titled it New Avengers from the start or did this name swap advertising much later. The Monday after opening to publicly reveal a spoiler is a pretty shitty thing to do. I was planning on seeing the movie soon, but I'm not going to reward bad behavior and be included in their "See? The name change campaign worked! Look at these ticket sales!" I'm fine waiting for Disney+ at this point.
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that's not correct. it was planned from the start, it's the reason why there is an asterisk in the title, Kevin Feige even reiterated the asterisk's importance. even the poster tearaway clip above was recorded in secret before the movie came out.

in the context of the film it's a very clever way to integrate the plot into the marketing campaign. it's actually pretty interesting because people who watched the movie prior to the reveal will have a different experience than the people who watch it after the reveal.
 
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HoodWinked said:
it's actually pretty interesting because people who watched the movie prior to the reveal will have a different experience than the people who watch it after the reveal.
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This is exactly why it is a scummy move. That's like revealing the twist in The Sixth Sense after the first weekend. Sure, the movie is still good, but the experience is damaged.
 
TDiddyLive said:
This is exactly why it is a scummy move. That's like revealing the twist in The Sixth Sense after the first weekend. Sure, the movie is still good, but the experience is damaged.
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It's not on that level IMHO. Most predicated they'd be the Dark Avengers, but New Avengers was generally tje second guess. Virtually everyone was at least guessing the Thunderbolts wasn't the real name of the team as the asterisk became more and more prominent in the marketing as the time went on.

I would say spoiling Bob's nature would be a bigger deal for the non-comic readers.
 
TDiddyLive said:
This is exactly why it is a scummy move. That's like revealing the twist in The Sixth Sense after the first weekend. Sure, the movie is still good, but the experience is damaged.
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It's not quite to that level since the movie works fine even if wasn't associated with Avengers.

Knowing this before the movie you'd still be unable to predict how it happens while people that went in blind didn't even know this was a possibility.
 
ReBurn said:
I still need to see Thunderbolts. Might have to take off early one afternoon to see it.
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Its fuckin awesome dude go see it. I wont say best since Endgame since I know some folks love Guardians 3….but aside from that, yeah its the best since Endgame.
 
Doom85 said:
It's not on that level IMHO. Most predicated they'd be the Dark Avengers, but New Avengers was generally tje second guess. Virtually everyone was at least guessing the Thunderbolts wasn't the real name of the team as the asterisk became more and more prominent in the marketing as the time went on.

I would say spoiling Bob's nature would be a bigger deal for the non-comic readers.
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I think I found the disconnect with myself and some other posters on here. You're posting as a comic book enthusiast who has a lot of knowledge on the source material. I haven't read a comic since sometime in the 90s. Most moviegoers probably have less comic knowledge than me if they have any outside the movies/TV shows. Thunderbolts being in any way linked to the Avengers (Dark/New) wasn't even the remotest thought in my head. There lies the problem. They are massively revealing a huge spoiler that the vast majority of viewers had no way of seeing coming, and only a few days after the movie came out.
 
TDiddyLive said:
I think I found the disconnect with myself and some other posters on here. You're posting as a comic book enthusiast who has a lot of knowledge on the source material. I haven't read a comic since sometime in the 90s. Most moviegoers probably have less comic knowledge than me if they have any outside the movies/TV shows. Thunderbolts being in any way linked to the Avengers (Dark/New) wasn't even the remotest thought in my head. There lies the problem. They are massively revealing a huge spoiler that the vast majority of viewers had no way of seeing coming, and only a few days after the movie came out.
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I think that's why it works.
Few people were expecting them to become the Avengers. I heard people say they were the equivalent of the Suicide Squad. They aren't striving to be either in the film, the movie was presented as a rag-tag group coming together to fight the next big bad, so while I've marked the thread as a spoiler I don't see it as a movie spoiler.
 
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