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Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT2| Sold exclusively at Dollar Tree

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LOL @ air dashing at walking speed. That's probably the equivalent of just going into flight mode and moving the stick forward.
It could have been. I could be wrong (I would love to be wrong). It was at near point-blank range though, and people usually don't enter Flight that close.

Why would I want to play a defensive Iron Man when I can just pick Magneto and play a much better runaway/zoning game?
Why?! Because Chaotic Flame -> Proton Cannon > Chaotic Flame -> Magnetic Shockwave!
 

LakeEarth

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I'm looking for opinions. Right now my main team is Dormammu/Doom/Haggar. Lots of good assist synergy there, but the problem is a lack of DHC ability (except in the corner). Who do you think I should change up?

My current idea is to switch Doom for Dante, as he can also make very good use of the Haggar assist, and I'm pretty sure Million Dollars will DHC from Chaotic Flame (not tested). I'm really going to miss the beam assist though, and I'm not sure if Jam Session or Weasel Shot would have the same utility.
 
There are Dormammu combos that will take your opponent to the corner solo, but they're not very easy to do:
c.L, c.M, Dark Matter, dash, trijump, j.L, s.L, s.M, s.S, sj.MMHS, Purification, Chaotic Flame

That travels like 80% or more of the screen.

If you're getting combos off of Plasma Beam, you can relaunch with Double Lariat - that will always take you to the corner.

If you're getting combos off of Double Lariat, either just end in Chaotic Flame, or end your combo in Flame Carpet + Plasma Beam to get full-screen distance on your opponent without spending meter.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Viscant showing the world why he's the top MvC3 player in that interview. So much knowledge, exposing PR Balrog Dante tactics that he's already adapted against. Showing respect to many other players too. I approve of Viscant winning, I approve.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
GG Tobe. Sorry about the lag early on, had to correct something from my end too. You wrecked me so hard. That last win especially, oh my. Phoenix transformation knocking skrull into the trap you set on the other side of the screen for the win omg :lol

So many dropped combos oh my *bows head in shame*
 

Tobe

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enzo_gt said:
GG Tobe. Sorry about the lag early on, had to correct something from my end too. You wrecked me so hard. That last win especially, oh my. Phoenix transformation knocking skrull into the trap you set on the other side of the screen for the win omg :lol

So many dropped combos oh my *bows head in shame*

i think you played a little too safe and i took advantage of that. on the lag issues at first i thought it was going to be unplayable good shit on fixing it.
idk who said that the worse matchup for phoenix was skrull well yeah im really afraid of meteor smash that shit will always hit me.

the trap thing that was funny blooper. actually im working on a setup with jean were you lay a medium trap then look for the backwards throw, that shit will combo though its very tricky.
 

enzo_gt

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Tobe1 said:
i think you played a little too safe and i took advantage of that. on the lag issues at first i thought it was going to be unplayable good shit on fixing it.
idk who said that the worse matchup for phoenix was skrull well yeah im really afraid of meteor smash that shit will always hit me.

the trap thing that was funny blooper. actually im working on a setup with jean were you lay a medium trap then look for the backwards throw, that shit will combo though its very tricky.
Yeah, since I play mostly offline I don't have much experience against Wolverines and Phoenixes so I didn't know what kind of game you'd play so I tried to play safe against beserker slashes and air fireballs, which I thought you'd go far, but I predicted wrong. Unfortunately the most problematic thing was your Magneto mixups. Caught me mashing enough times.

GG again. Perhaps I should play more online so I could.. perhaps even improve lol
 
Does anyone on XBL GAF want a match? I'm in Mexico, but I still get decent connections with the US/Canada at times, hell, most of the time I get better connections with the US/Canada than with my own country >__>
 
Sure, later at night will be worse for the lag though, since my brother will be back and he uses the PC all day constantly streaming US TV lately =/
 

enzo_gt

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@SolarKnight & ThatCrazyGuy. Both of you guys can add me and shoot me an invite some time to play my Super-Scrub ass: GT: arvinater

Karsticles said:
Skrull does pretty well against Dark Phoenix. You just need to randomly Meteor Smash all over the place!
That's the strategy I use. Hell, if you play like me, you use that strategy on every character! :D

EDIT: Also, CanadaGAF here.
 
Alright, added Enzo, and it looks like Solar added me too.

Just one thing, please don't send me invites for anything if it says I'm playing something other than a fighting game, I have to share the account with my brother =/
 

DR2K

Banned
Karsticles said:
Skrull does pretty well against Dark Phoenix. You just need to randomly Meteor Smash all over the place!

That doesn't work on the 2 Phoenix players that know how to block.
 
I played UMvC3 Iron Man. He doesn't have a tri-dash anymore. It's that bad. I think you'll be sad when you see it Dahbomb, all I could say was "reeeeeeeeeeallly?" because I thought everyone was full of shit for saying it was slow as hell (I thought his vanilla one was "slow as hell").

They really want him to be defensive it seems. Lots of artillery for keeping people out. That would explain the Unibeam spam buff. Repulsor to spread was already good for mid range control, I think they want him to play more to that aspect?

In any case, he's out for Hawkeye on my team :D Poison Arrow killing assists is awesome.
 

shaowebb

Member
This thread needs more MIKE. FUCKING. HAGGAR!

Prepare yourself. For he is manly and his tale is mighty.

This got me so pumped for Mike Haggar that I don't care how bad he gets nerfed. I'm gonna keep training until I break to make him a destroyer
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Dreams-Visions said:
Question: online netcode...seems kinda poor. stuttering/laggy on my 30mbps down / 5mbps up connection.

normal?
Completely normal for this game. It's very "smooth" on a good day but your inputs will still lag quite noticeably.

Bandwidth has very little to do with online performance, by the way.
 
2 quick questions, what are storms listed changes so far in ultimate, and what is storms best meter building combo to set her up for dhc shenanigans? For the love of me I can't up with a combo for her that builds 1 bar. Yes, I suck.
 
FindMyFarms said:
2 quick questions, what are storms listed changes so far in ultimate, and what is storms best meter building combo to set her up for dhc shenanigans? For the love of me I can't up with a combo for her that builds 1 bar. Yes, I suck.

I heard she's the same.
 
I've never tried doing Hsien-Ko's gong combos until last night. I had no idea you are supposed to use the l.gong, but it makes sense since it recovers more quickly than it's medium and heavy counterparts. The hitstun decay is terrible for her and her launcher is so bad that I don't think it's possible to use a gong combo midscreen unless you've got XF activated.

Yeah, her damage is not really bad at all(except her Tenrai-Ha). It is her mechanics and hitstun that messes with combo potential.

Oh, I spent some more time with Trish yesterday and it is definitely really refreshing to play some new characters. Damn, I love styling on people with that THC. My standard team may DHC a lot better if Morrigan's finishing shower hits more quickly and keeps people in place while cornered though.

I do feel bad for folks like Dormammu if they don't have proper DHC and THC partners. They should let us assign what hypers we want for characters prematch as an option. That'd be interesting lol.
Dahbomb said:
LOL @ air dashing at walking speed. That's probably the equivalent of just going into flight mode and moving the stick forward.
I just realized that this would practically be the same air dash speed as Lei Lei.

No...no that can't be true. I don't believe it.

nah
 

Dahbomb

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FindMyFarms said:
2 quick questions, what are storms listed changes so far in ultimate, and what is storms best meter building combo to set her up for dhc shenanigans? For the love of me I can't up with a combo for her that builds 1 bar. Yes, I suck.
New move like Magneto's that changes other character's position, slightly more damage on combos and she can no longer call assists while floating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-6pzTSOg8

Max's new video.

LMAO @ RR being top tier. Can't wait for the HYPER VIPER BEAM.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Idk, I can sorta see RR being top tier if they truly do fuck up and make him Cable on crack.

At the same time I wouldn't be too shocked if Dr.Strange was that character as well.

On a random side note, I upgraded my Taskmaster BnB again... yay!
 

Azure J

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As I said before somewhere, my top 3 picks for high (scary) tier characters are Dr. Strange, Vergil and Rocket Raccoon. Just going based on my casual knowledge of the three and in RR's case the "heavy weapons specialist" precedent set by Cable in MVC2, there's a lot that can happen here.
 

smurfx

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if RR really is what i want him to be then oh man will i be making a ton of enemies on xbox live. they already hate the keep away tactics i use now and i can only imagine what will happen when i upgrade it with RR. i really hope RR has a good get off me assist. if he does then haggar might have to leave my team.
 

smurfx

get some go again
i'm also interested in nemesis. i like tank characters like him and him possibly having weapons means i can maybe use him to play keep away and rush down and have a ton of life to lose.
 
Spent some time in the lab and I've just started practicing Ammy's glaive combos a bit. I had no idea her BnB could do a standard 640k+. That is sick lol.

Some characters have weird hitboxes which does not allow a standard BnB on everyone unless you use some light attacks as well.
Kimosabae said:
Umm, it's truly left-field how little media has come out of Evo regarding this game.
It will be obsolete in a couple of months. There is no point in talking about it anymore, really.
smurfx said:
if RR really is what i want him to be then oh man will i be making a ton of enemies on xbox live. they already hate the keep away tactics i use now and i can only imagine what will happen when i upgrade it with RR. i really hope RR has a good get off me assist. if he does then haggar might have to leave my team.
Nothing will ever be as annoying as invincible shit that gets in the way. Tasky pisses me off, but Haggar just makes me want to punch ducklings.
 

smurfx

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SolarPowered said:
Nothing will ever be as annoying as invincible shit that gets in the way. Tasky pisses me off, but Haggar just makes me want to punch ducklings.
haggar assist vs haggar assist battle is awesome though. usually whoever uses haggar first loses. i don't usually lose those battles as i've learned how to punish the hell out of haggar assist. i have a question for marvel fans. does doctor strange teleport in the comics? i don't want to see another high tier teleport character.
 

Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
FindMyFarms said:
2 quick questions, what are storms listed changes so far in ultimate, and what is storms best meter building combo to set her up for dhc shenanigans? For the love of me I can't up with a combo for her that builds 1 bar. Yes, I suck.

She doesn't build that much meter. I forget the notations off top of my head but her main bnb's are the ones Fanatiq and AndyOCR use. Either the Fly Loop or the Jump cancel combo on the ground. Check the Storm threads on SRK. They have some good tech.
 

Kimosabae

Banned
Lol, what? Speak for yourself. I'm interested in knowing exactly what a lot of these changes actually look like. If talking about what the actual game currently looks like is pointless, this entire thread is pointless.
 
Kimosabae said:
Lol, what? Speak for yourself. I'm interested in knowing exactly what a lot of these changes actually look like. If talking about what the actual game currently looks like is pointless, this entire thread is pointless.
I was talking about MvC3. After some thought, I came to the conclusion that you were talking about UMvC3 which is actually getting a decent amount of press here and there. Deleting the post seemed pointless so I left it there.

UMvC3 should be fine for a good while if Capcom knows what is good for them.
smurfx said:
haggar assist vs haggar assist battle is awesome though. usually whoever uses haggar first loses. i don't usually lose those battles as i've learned how to punish the hell out of haggar assist. i have a question for marvel fans. does doctor strange teleport in the comics? i don't want to see another high tier teleport character.
He can teleport if I remember correctly. I think Capcom is done with teleporting characters though.
 

Tobe

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SolarPowered said:
Spent some time in the lab and I've just started practicing Ammy's glaive combos a bit. I had no idea her BnB could do a standard 640k+. That is sick lol.

Nothing will ever be as annoying as invincible shit that gets in the way. Tasky pisses me off, but Haggar just makes me want to punch ducklings.

try the exchange glitch combos with ammy those look really nice and make decent damage.

i hate haggar in specific situations like how smurf uses him which is a really defensive way and if he sees that u want to punish it boom u get shield skilled by taskmaster. probably smurf uses the team i hate the most taskmaster/zero/haggar.
smurf <3?
other than that im ok with haggar assist in trying to setup offensive setups and what not.
 

enzo_gt

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MahvelGAF, it has come to my attention that the end is near. This thread will hit OT3 soon, and thus, we need a thread title that isn't garbage like this one's. We should brainstorm. My suggestion.

Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT3| Chapstick is God Tier

Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT3| To Tijuana and beyond!

Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT3| The Final Dive (Kick)
 
That's the strategy I use. Hell, if you play like me, you use that strategy on every character! :D
I use four major strategies with Skrull:
1) Random Meteor Smash spam.
2) Use my above average yomi skills for Elastic Slam.
3) Orbital Grudge if opponent tries to rush me.
4) Jump, air dash, charge j.S cross-up.

I'm always looking for air throws too - love air throws with Skrull.

If you just do Meteor Smash, X Factor, command grab... it catches anyone off guard.
It's not even off-guard, it's pretty much unstoppable. Meteor Smash is -21 on block, Elastic Slam is 21 frames startup - they pretty much can't stop it unless they are looking for it and throw you out.

I'm gonna actually try and get my ass to Evo for sure next year and compete. :D Just gotta figure out transportation stuff. D:
Just don't get in a fight!

The hitstun decay is terrible for her and her launcher is so bad that I don't think it's possible to use a gong combo midscreen unless you've got XF activated.
I'm no expert on Hsien-ko, but I can't do them mid-screen, and I've never seen them done.

I do feel bad for folks like Dormammu if they don't have proper DHC and THC partners. They should let us assign what hypers we want for characters prematch as an option. That'd be interesting lol.
Well, he's really meant to be in second order. Dormammu's best DHCs are characters like Wolverine, C. Viper, and Spider-man. You can DHC from any of these guys to Stalking Flare, and it bounces your opponent perfectly enough for Dormammu to get 3 Dark spells charged. Basically, use the time to charge 1D2C (meteor shower), which gives you enough time to charge 2 Dark Spells every time you use it, and Dormammu comes in with a ton of screen control and potential for building meter.

Aside from other beamers, the only really good THC for Dormammu is Million Dollars, because it takes so long to complete that Dormammu recovers from Chaotic Flame with enough time to Mass Change next to his opponent and combo off of Million Dollars.

If anything, Dormammu's biggest shortcoming in terms of DHCs is that he's not very good at punishing assists. Yes, Chaotic Flame comes out very fast, but it doesn't reach past full-screen, and it pushes opponents past that mark. So if you catch an assist with Shinkuu Hadoken and then DHC into Chaotic Flame, Chaotic Flame will whiff. Similarly, Chaotic Flame (XFC) Chaotic Flame will whiff unless you cancel it very early, or if your opponent is in a corner.

After 6 months of playing, I've finally come to accept that Dormammu should just plain not be used on point, and I'm much more satisfied when using him.

does doctor strange teleport in the comics?
Yes. Basically, if you can think of it Dr. Strange can do it. He's like a "good" version of Dormammu. He has so many powers Capcom can make him do whatever the heck they want.

He can even turn people into objects.
 

smurfx

get some go again
Karsticles said:
Yes. Basically, if you can think of it Dr. Strange can do it. He's like a "good" version of Dormammu. He has so many powers Capcom can make him do whatever the heck they want.

He can even turn people into objects.
imagine him having a special where he can turn into any character in the game. having a tough time with an opponent? you get to choose another one temporarily .
 
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