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The one you've been waiting for. In traditional Linneman detail, John takes an extended look at Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, breaking down the technology and going in depth on the increase to detail, improved fidelity in character rendering, the improvements delivered by ray tracing and of course, fidelity 30fps vs performance 60fps mode comparisons.

 

[Dampf]

The Raytracing implementation (and the whole game) looks amazing.

It's really wonderful that this is possible at 4K on a console. Really impressive.

 

[geordiemp]

I doubt we will get the same goodness from 3rd party, or not for a while anyway.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Welcome to the next generation

Also available on the current generation.

 

[Topfuel]

I doubt we will get the same goodness from 3rd party, or not for a while anyway.

Bet Capcom will show something nice first.

 

[geordiemp]

Bet Capcom will show something nice first.

I bet ubisoft games are no where close to this.

 

[onQ123]

Welcome to the next generation

Also available on the current generation.

Having a bad day huh?

 

[RyanEvans21]

Welcome to the next generation

Also available on the current generation.

Current Gen can do 4k? loading speed? or ray tracing?

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Tempted to play in 30fps mode.

Current Gen can do 4k or ray tracing?

He has no games to play at launch. Let him have his fun.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Tempted to play in 30fps mode.



He has no games to play at launch. Let him have his fun.

They have games. old games though

Yup! with ray tracing and other enhanced features

 

[TBiddy]

When you consider this is a launch game, imagine how amazing the games will look in a few years. As always, a job well done by Sonys 1st party.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

Console players, can we please finally agree that raytracing is not a waste?

Thanks.

 

[Blue Spring]

Console players, can we please finally agree that raytracing is not a waste?

Thanks.

I cant agree with that. Ray-traced reflections are the only technique that I can actually see most of the time right away but shadows and lightning differences are almost always indistinguishable for me and a waste.

 

[Keihart]

Where are all the DF it's a MS chill posts?

 

[Montauk]

Fucking hell, those load times!

 

[Krappadizzle]

I cant agree with that. Ray-traced reflections are the only technique that I can actually see most of the time right away but shadows and lightning differences are almost always indistinguishable for me and a waste.

There hasn't been a game that really does Ray/Path Traced Global Illumination very well. Shadows and reflections are just a byproduct of current ray tracing. Both have been faked pretty convincingly over the years. Lighting is where it'll make the biggest impact. If it can be done without negatively affecting a game.

When and if that game comes....you'll see. There's a reason Carmack has been talking about it for 30+ years.

 

[Blue Spring]

Where are all the DF it's a MS chill posts?

I gotta bro. DF are MS shills.
Good thing Alex Buggaga did not get a PS5.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Holy crap at the RT

 

[Gloomnivore]

Looks proper next gen to me. I wasn't hyped before today but now I believe in these new consoles.

Now to go off and preor...dammit!

 

[splattered]

This will be one of the first titles i buy... on sale next year on black friday. Feels like a really spiffy Infamous: Second Son (Which was a great expansion)

Oops forgot to put First Light above. Anyway.

 

[Andodalf]

Looks so good with RT, but 60 FPS also looks so nice....

No clue which way I'm going to play it :I

 

[Rikkori]

Welcome to the next generation

Also available on the current generation.

Pretty much. Feels like both communities have very low demands from Sony & MS. I just don't get it, but hey, more power to them.

 

[Blue Spring]

There hasn't been a game that really does Ray/Path Traced Global Illumination very well. Shadows and reflections are just a byproduct of current ray tracing. Lighting is where it'll make the biggest impact. If it can be done without negatively affecting a game.

When and if that game comes....you'll see. There's a reason Carmack has been talking about it for 30+ years.

We will see. So far no implementation impressed me.
If its really because no game has done it really well and we are about to get really good upgrades in visuals I could very well change my mind.

 

[SappYoda]

Looks so good with RT, but 60 FPS also looks so nice....

No clue which way I'm going to play it :I

I feel the same way. RT looks amazing but I also like 60 fps

I wish there was like a 1080p 60 fps with RT mode...

The game looks fantastic either way

 

[Krisprolls]

But do we know if it's RNDA 2 and the number of tetrafloops ?

Just kidding, welcome to the next gen as they say. Impressive game, can't wait !

 

[Montauk]

Where are all the DF it's a MS chill posts?

Ridiculous, isn't it?

 

[Gloomnivore]

Play it both ways, double the game length. 60fps is nice but you can't let that RT go unseen.

 

[Blue Spring]

Play it both ways, double the game length. 60fps is nice but you can't let that RT go unseen.

Damn, I wanted to make that joke as well.

 

[Montauk]

I gotta bro. DF are MS shills.
Good thing Alex Buggaga did not get a PS5.

Embarrassing post. Just because somebody has some different opinions to you on some consoles or games doesn't make them a shill.

That's such a serious claim - that he's paid by MS to promote their products - and you provide no evidence for it at all.

 

[diffusionx]

Looks so good with RT, but 60 FPS also looks so nice....

No clue which way I'm going to play it :I

I think the RT mode is a no-brainer, the game plays fine in 30fps and you get this massive visual boost that makes the game look way better every step of the way.

I just wish there was a PC version so you could do both.

 

[DonJorginho]

Don't care as the main story is only 8-10 hours long, 0/10.

I'm being sarcastic btw if you're that fucking stupid to believe someone could have such a terrible opinion on a great looking launch title

 

[Blue Spring]

Embarrassing post. Just because somebody has some different opinions to you on some consoles oe games doesn't make them a shill.

Alex is part of a hardcore xbox centric discord group where a lot PS5 FUD originated from.
Thats all Im gonna write here and Im not going to discuss this any further.

 

[Andodalf]

I feel the same way. RT looks amazing but I also like 60 fps

I wish there was like a 1080p 60 fps with RT mode...

With their TAA it wouldn't be horrible, but the RT at 60 would be reaaaaly heavy even at 1080p. They'd need to make some changes to it just for that mode I'd wager, and I get them not wanting to put time into making so many performance profiles.

 

[edbrat]

Ready, my body is.

 

[Montauk]

Alex is part of a hardcore xbox centric discord group where a lot PS5 FUD originated from.
Thats all Im gonna write here and Im not going to discuss this any further.

This paranoia and melodramatic sensitivity to different opinions would be embarassing even if you were a teenager and I'd bet you're not.

One day hopefully gaming will get past this kind of cringy fanboyism.

 

[JCK75]

Console players, can we please finally agree that raytracing is not a waste?

Thanks.

it looks incredible but I'm hoping to see an options where its toned down so you can get above 30fps.
would make it less difficult to choose between the 60 and the RT.

 

[Denton]

RT looks great, but 30fps...yeah. I will always take 60. And this is why all games should be on PC, so that demanding players wouldn't have to make compromises.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

RT looks great, but 30fps...yeah. I will always take 60. And this is why all games should be on PC, so that demanding players wouldn't have to make compromises.

Amen.

 

[Blue Spring]

Embarrassing post. Just because somebody has some different opinions to you on some consoles or games doesn't make them a shill.

That's such a serious claim - that he's paid by MS to promote their products - and you provide no evidence for it at all.

Shills dont have to be paid. But hey if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck but you still insist to call it a chicken then thats on you.

 

[megreotsugua]

Where are all the DF it's a MS chill posts?

There's no Alex Bunganga so it's fine.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

It's a nice game but they should offer some free content to pad out this 8 hour adventure. Otherwise, this is just giving us "Inches" instead of "Miles".

 

[[Sigma]]

First playthrough=Fidelity mode. Second=Performance.

 

[Deleted member 740922]

First playthrough=Fidelity mode. Second=Performance.

You could squeeze a 3rd playthrough in and have it all done within a day.

 

[mejin]

Having a bad day huh?

Fun sucks today.

 

[iHaunter]

Welcome to the next generation

Also available on the current generation.

Not like this, sorry. Your FUD bullshit is not going to work.

 

[regawdless]

Game looks great. In this setting, raytraced reflections really shine. It looks so off without them.

 

[FrankWza]

Having a bad day huh?

You can hear his throat drop from across the world hahahahahaha

 

[M_A_C]

Looks fantastic!

 

[FrankWza]

Shills dont have to be paid. But hey if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck but you still insist to call it a chicken then thats on you.

Damn, now I'm in the mood for roasted duck

 

[Self High Five]

Where are all the DF it's a MS chill posts?

Ironically this was the first console war post of the thread.